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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:50 AM
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Bill Schneider on Obama's speech:
"Well, this is the most sophisticated speech about race and race relations in America frankly than I've ever heard. It is more than any scholarly treatment, certainly than any political treatment." He went on from there but I thought this was striking coming from Schneider.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:51 AM
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1. Bill Schneider's vote is clear - and he does try to evaluate fairly
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:52 AM
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2. I agree with Schneider. Why are you surprised?
In contrast to the gang at MSNBC, the CNN people do appear neutral, giving both candidates an equal chance.

But, of course, if you get your opinions from NBC MSNBC and Newsweek, a balanced report from other sources will appear biased.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:56 AM
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3. Who said anything about "surprise?" n/t
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:57 AM
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4. He is right of course. Amazing speech, content, and expression
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:05 PM
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5. K&R!
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:08 PM
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6. coming from anyone associated with cnn one has to discount
and I would venture to say just by reading over this lil critique of obama's speech, hell, by sunset, this speech will be there with dr king's speech...abe's speech, moses's speech, and the sermon on the mount....but all those speeches did not begin with trying to cover up a lie......
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:52 PM
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14. I don't think anybody is responding to you because everyone..
Has you on ignore...

Welcome to my list ...off with ya..
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:09 PM
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7. Its a very subtle speech and I am going to have to listen to it several times
before I think I really understand the full impact of what he is saying.

For example he gives a very piercing criticism of Black leaders like Wright who are stuck in a paradigm insisting that what

has happened in America is static and that it cannot ever get better.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:48 PM
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15. Or , more directly, that things haven't improved since the 1960s
Obama cited himself as evidence of progress.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:09 PM
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8. Very striking. Thanks for posting it.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:24 PM
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9. I am here because of Ashley
Brilliant on so many levels

One of parts of Obama's genius is that he doesn't over use a story - Edwards used the same stories until they became stale.

Retelling the Ashley story at the end was absolutely brilliant.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:25 PM
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10. that is high praise indeed from Aei's potted plant at Cnn.
it was an excellent speech.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:49 PM
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16. "AEI's potted plant at CNN" -- good one n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:27 PM
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11. He's only saying it because there's no DENYING it. Same way they couldn't spin Katrina
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 12:29 PM by blm
or the 2004 presidential debates.

When something is UNSPINNABLE they soberly acknowledge what just occurred. They truly don't what else to say at these times without sounding like complete fascist tools.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:51 PM
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17. You mean fascist tools like some of the DUers who tried to spin it?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:39 AM
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19. Yep - it does become OBVIOUS at some point, doesn't it?
Shows how weak-minded some can be - even Dems.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:57 PM
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18. One of my most vivid memories of Katrina is watching Fox News.
One of the douchebag anchors in New York was spinning, spinning, spinning. He was trying to get Shepard Smith to spin the disaster in a pro-Bush, pro-Republican way. Shepard, to his credit, just didn't bite. Standing in flood water, he basically just said the situation was horrible and that the people of New Orleans had been let down. I couldn't believe what I'd seen, on Fox News, of all places.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:29 PM
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12. If AEI Schneider can't spin it . . n/t
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:50 PM
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13. I think I am getting HOPEful!! How exciting for us. If he can answer these
irrational pundit slurs/charges. He can do anything. Pardon me, I sort of almost expected him to do a Bush and come out and say "Rev Right? Who? Rev. White? I've never met him." Not really, but, you know how awful it has been being a Democrat the last 8 years. Only in nightmares could we imagine what has gone on. I was having a bout of insomnia the other night and pulled some video off the shelf and found that (oh, goody!) an old Daily Show I hadn't seen. Then another one, then 2 Soprano episodes that were great, though I had seen them, then 3 evening news shows that were recorded in Feb, 1998. In the first one, Bill Clinton held up a poster board with a big $0 on it, saying the debt was paid off and we had $3 trillion surplus so that we could protect Social Security way into the next century. The next news show had some of the ugliest republic Senators/Representatives saying how we didn't need a surplus, what we needed was a big tax break so the people could keep their money. You know, blah blah... It was so dang depressing, and I was half asleep. Could not get the energy to operate the remote. As you guys have taught me Christ on a cracker!!! Our country has been invaded by a bunch of morans!!1!!
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:43 AM
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20. Joe Biden: "one of most important speeches we've heard in a long time''
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