I boarded this train late, but I'm aboard now, and you should be, too!

[Padraig18]

Unless you're a late arrival to DU, it should be no secret that John Kerry was neither my first nor my second choice to lead our party in November. That said, the primaries were held in accordance with the party rules and applicable state election laws, and John Kerry has won, fair and square.

I could never stand the kids in the schoolyard who wanted 'do overs' when the game didn't turn out the way they liked, and as an adult, I still can't stand them. This inning of the game is over, and those of us who supported someone other than Sen. Kerry LOST, so we either act like grownups and be gracious in defeat, or we can whine like spoiled brats who didn't get their way.

As for me, I shall work my fingers to the bone to see that John Kerry is elected the next President of the United States of America, and will do so with a song in my heart. I am a DEMOCRAT, and he is the nominee of my party!

Ball to you.

[Supormom]

1. Former Deaniac here ...

I am 100% behind Senator John Kerry.

[Padraig18]

2. Excellent!

:hi:

[Forkboy]

3. I'm somewhere in the caboose

:shrug:

[NoPasaran]

4. Deaniac for Kerry here

Vote for Kerry or go to hell, that's my motto now.

[FloridaPat]

5. I refust to be gracious to Gore's "defeat" in 2000. The game did

turn out the way I wanted it, but the game was stolen. The repubs are creeps and more. I will fight against them forever. So Kerry better give those creeps hell.

[Padraig18]

8. I want revenge for 2000!

I have no problem with your stance, and I want Sen. Kerry to give the Repubs holy hell about it, too! :thimbsup:

[MoonRiver]

6. Thanks for that great post Padraig!

Kerry wasn't my first choice either, as my avatar reveals. But I'm also 100% behind him now, and not just because he's the nominee. I really like the guy! The Dem ticket would be absolutely dynamite if Clark's on the ticket, imho of course.

[Atlas Mugged]

7. He has my vote

As well as that of my life-long Republican partner. And, yes, I wasn't thrilled with Kerry at first, but he's growing on me.

[ulysses]

9. Paddy

Contrary to received knowledge, criticism of Kerry is not necessarily the result of having supported someone else during the primaries.

It's entirely possible to both criticize and support. Hell, it might even be called a virtue. :)

[Padraig18]

13. I plan to criticize him, uly.

I see nothing wrong, and much positive with fair criticism; the guy who pats your back when you blow it is not neccessarily your friend, and the guy who tells you that you screwed up is not neccessarily your enemy. Intent makes all the difference. :)

[ulysses]

20. so it does. sort of.

Intent makes all the difference.

Understanding of intent implies trust. Many here would very much like to pin an intent on me that isn't mine, and I suppose that I can't really blame them for the lack of trust - they only know me via words on a screen, not as the real human being who used to have 9mm clips thrust in his face by anti-choice protesters.

Same goes for me re: the Party and its nominees. I used to trust the party with little reservation. I don't harbor that unquestioning trust any more, because I no longer feel as if I necessarily understand the intentions of the higher-ups (and uncertainty is probably a happier state, in this case, than certainty). Individual nominees are largely a different story, but there's far too much swirling around the presidential election cycle to say for sure or to talk about anything like absolute trust.

[JHBowden]

10. Dean supporter for Kerry here too!

Kerry is a solid candidate, and I'm happy with him.

[chimpymustgo]

11. Kerry is THE MAN. He's OUR GUY. He's THE ONE.

I like one of the slogans above: "Vote for Kerry or go to hell!"

[Upfront]

12. I To Am A Democrat

It is not about who won. Kerry won, good, go for it. My problem is not that Kerry won but that so far he sucks as a canidate. He needs to stand up like a man and say I made a big mistake when I voted for this war. Bring the troops home this Bush folly is lost. Then he has a chanch to win. If he keeps on danceing around the truth, he, and we lose.

[MajorFlaw]

16. The election is six whole months away. Kerry has positioned himself

well. He has left plenty of room to "change his mind" about the need to stay in Iraq. It fits right over the "flip-flop" accusation: Kerry is decisive, but he is willing to change his mind when circumstances change. Remember Emerson, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds". Only a fool would stay on a disastrous course. A fool or a shrub.

[Pastiche423]

14. I've decided to board a different train

One that is just pulling out of the station - the "Step aside, Kerry" train, bound for.......... "We can do better than that".

Brokered conventions have and can happen.

[Padraig18]

15. About as likely as seeing Haley's Comet this year...

But knock yourself out... :shrug:

[Pastiche423]

18. Thank you, I will

And I will not be alone.

[Exgeneral]

55. Save me a seat up front

no only CAN we do better, we MUST.

[Pastiche423]

56. I'll save you a seat

right next to me. ;-)

[hedgetrimmer]

94. Comets will blaze in Nashville skies!!! Take a look!!!

By Colleen Creamer, [email protected]
April 29, 2004

An exceptionally unusual astronomical event - the concurrent appearance of two comets, LINEAR and NEAT - will take place in Nashville skies during May and June.

"It's really unusual," Sudekum Planetarium director Kris McCall said. "At the moment I am not aware of another incident where we have two bright naked eye comets in the sky at the same time."

LINEAR is named for the automated telescopic survey that found the comet in 2002, the Lincoln Near Earth Asteroid Research. Though LINEAR may appear in the early morning during late April and early June, it will be visible low in the sky due southwest in the twilight after sunset.

NEAT is an acronym for Near Earth Asteroid Tracking, another telescopic survey that discovered the comet in 2001. NEAT will begin to be visible around May 5 low in the west just after sunset. As the month moves on the comet will become brighter and will then grow dim until it disappears in early June.

... more ...

link: http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?section_id=9&screen=news&news_id=32695

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Maybe not Haley's but wow two comets in the sky... better check that train ticket...

[Pastiche423]

95. Fabulous find!

lol

[ulysses]

17. I've gotta disagree, Pastiche.

The brokered convention thing seems like a real dead-end of both time and effort, for what would be temporary gains at best, to me. Shouldn't we put ourselves into more long-term organization efforts focused on education, outreach and issue activism?

[Pastiche423]

19. If you mean

supporting and working for local, state and congressional campaigns, I'm already there.

Dreaming of a brokered convention, is my way of dealing w/the hopelessness I feel in the presidential race. Although, there are groups forming to see if it can be more than a dream.

[ulysses]

48. I do mean that

supporting and working for local, state and congressional campaigns, I'm already there.

but I think there's a lot more we can do in non-electoral situations that are more crucial in the long run.

[Pastiche423]

50. Could you please expound on that?

Do you mean locally or nationally?

I belong to several activist groups in my community and am always open to learn of more ways to educate/help.

[ulysses]

54. both locally and nationally. what I think we need

is an explicit alliance (insofar as it's possible) between every interest group on what we understand as the "left" - gays, African-Americans, women, environmentalists, labor, generic liberals, etc. - that says that you show up for each other's protests, donate to each other's causes and support (again, where possible) each other's candidates. I think that's the only way we beat the triangulation game - unify and organize.

Obviously much, much easier to say than to achieve. But I think it's necessary, and I think it's where we should be putting our energies now.

[Pastiche423]

58. Next month

a group of us will travel to our state capital, like we did last year. There we meet w/other organizations and discuss a myraid of issues. From there we hit the State Senate and House reps w/our comments/questions/solutions.

Closer to home, we host community forums, where we invite business owners, local government reps and citizens to ask and answer questions. While these are helpful and we do advertize the dates, we have yet to bring in more than 200 people/event.

If you or anyone else has more ideas, I am all ears.

[ulysses]

60. I hope you'll give us a rundown.

I'd really like to know how it goes next month, what gets talked about, etc.

[AP]

21. So that's the dream that's going to keep Kerry hating alive through the...

...summer?

Kerry has over 1500 more electoral votes than the guy in second place. I don't want to see any sort of convention outcome that doesn't give the nomination to the guy with a lead like that (and I'm saying that even though my favorite candidate would be the next in line).

Kerry's the nominee, and I don't see how anyone who doesn't want Bush to be president could live with themselves if they don't start doing everything they can to get Kerry elected.

[Pastiche423]

26. It has nothing to do w/hating Kerry

I do not hate Kerry. Although, my disappointment in him knows no bounds.

It has everything to do w/the lackluster, riding the fence, warmongering, status quo campaign he has led. In short, I am very embarrassed that he is the "chosen one". I have no faith in him to make any of the dire changes our country needs, the changes I need to stay alive.

Btw, Kerry is still the presumptive nominee.

[AP]

27. For whom are you campaigning?

[Pastiche423]

31. I am campaigning for...

Pete DeFazio
Ron Wyden
Bill Bradbury

and

Maggie Bagon (Asst. campaign mgr)

I am also donating to Cynthia McKinney's and Jeff Seeman's campaigns.

[AP]

For President?

[Pastiche423]

37. No one

[JHBowden]

40. Uphold the status quo?

You must be a person for "change."

:evilgrin:

[Pastiche423]

43. No, that would be Kerry

[Padraig18]

44. No, 'status quo' would be Bush...

*hands you a Latin phrase book* :eyes:

[sangh0]

90. Only on DU

is changing the President considered "keeping the status quo"

[JHBowden]

53. These guys disagree on almost every issue.

Abortion: Kerry is prochoice. Bush is prolife.
Affirmative action: Kerry is for, Bush is against.
Capital punishment: Kerry is against, Bush is the Texacutioner
Education: Kerry is against Vouchers, Bush is for them.
Energy: Kerry is green, Bush is in bed with Saudi Arabia
Environment: Kerry supports healthy oceans, no drilling in national parks, a ban on MBTE; Bush and Cheney ARE the polluters.
Foreign Policy: Kerry is a multilateralist, Bush is a unilateralist
Gays: Kerry voted against DOMA; Bush wants constitutional discrimination
Gun Control: Kerry is for, Bush is against
Health Care: Kerry supports expanding coverage, Bush is for big pharma
Taxes: Kerry supports progressive taxation; Bush plunders for the rich.

Kerry's candidacy, when we disregard the conspiracy theories and look at the issues, is unequivocally NOT the agenda of Asscroft and Cheney.

[AP]

52. You want a brokered convention so that No One can be the nominee?

Who do want as the nominee?

[JI7]

70. only way there would be a brokered convention

was if something unexpected (and probably tragic) were to happen to kerry and it would be impossible for him to be the nominee. and even in that case the nomination will most likely go to edwards since he got the second most delegates. and from past posts i know this person is even less likely to support edwards than kerry.

[AP]

71. Ain't that the truth.

[mitchum]

74. Well, just out of spite (and I'm sure YOU understand spite)...

[sandnsea]

100. We're coming for YOU!!!

You're not going to take away the Kerry vote in Lane County. I'm here. Not happening. Fuhgetaboudit!

:-)

[Pastiche423]

103. "I" am not taking away any votes

It's the majority of voters in Curry, Coos and Multnomah, and yes, Lane County that are not strongly supporting the appointed one.

You really need to get out more. Will you be in Salem on May 16? We will be caucusing then, you know.

[sandnsea]

104. I'm out all the time

Forget it. You're the one who needs to get out more. Oregon's going Kerry. We don't caucus in Oregon, we vote, mail-in. Final day is May 18, so I don't know what you're talking about.

[Pastiche423]

105. We must have our ballots in by May 18 to vote in the primary

We have an annual caucus. It's where people that are concerned about the issues that affect our state, gather once a year, every year to discuss such issues as the upcoming elections, marriage, taxes, civil liberties and immigrant rights.

For someone so vocal here about our state, I am surprised you are not aware of this.

But then, it's a liberal kinda thing. ;-)

[sandnsea]

107. I'm a Democrat

I've never said anything but that. I find the far left as dogmatic and annoying as the far right. Caucus to your heart's content, isn't going to change anything. Everybody I talk to is ready to vote Kerry and pissed at anyone who suggests anything different. I really don't know why anybody would want to extend their energy to swing the state to Bush, but if that's your bag, knock yourself out!

[Pastiche423]

109. There are two Democratic presidential candidates

in my Voters' Pamphlet.

[Cuban_Liberal]

110. And?

Which of the two already has enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination, and which one never will, even if he wins every delegate left? :eyes:

[sandnsea]

111. I had planned to vote Kucinich

But when Kucinich supporters started doing everything they could to sabatoge the Kerry campaign, I changed my mind. I've waited a whole year to vote for John Kerry and I'm not going to let the chance pass me by! And I'm going to spend every available moment making sure every ballot goes back with John Kerry as the nominee.

And I just got off the phone with another Oregonian for Kerry who is pissed off at Democrats who won't get behind him and extra pissed at Nader supporters in general. And this is a guy who was for Kucinich.

Oregon's going for Kerry. Get on board!

:-)

[goobergunch]

62. I doubt that Kerry has 1500 electoral votes

The electoral college meets in December, and there are only 538 members.

What you mean is delegate votes - and those won't be cast until July, although Kerry does have an insurmountable lead among pledged delegates.

[MAlibdem]

22. They can't happen when one candidate has 70-80% of the delegates

As Kerry does. Brokered conventions don't happen unless no one is getting 50%...


Unless Kerry dies, there will be no brokered convention

[JHBowden]

24. I only see two trains to and from the WH.

Bush can remain in office, or he can be removed.

[Pastiche423]

28. Take off your blinders

[JHBowden]

29. George Bush *is* the president.

I'm not going to encourage Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Asscroft & co. with another four years, especially when we can elect a left-liberal like Kerry and bring in people like CMB, Holbrooke, Edwards, Dean, and so forth.

[Padraig18]

33. Do you know how condescending that statement is?

'The truth' is revealed only to you, while we mere mortals stumble on blindly in abysmal ignorance... :eyes:

[Pastiche423]

34. How is it condescending

that I see more than two trains?

[Padraig18]

35. 'Take your blinders off'

If you can't see how it's condescending, that could well be part of the problem. It implies that everyone else in the band is out of step, except you and those who think as you do...

[JHBowden]

36. I'm more worried about Patische being truthful.

Whether Bush & his crew are in office or not for four more years is binary. There is no third option.

[Old and In the Way]

51. Perhaps he prefers the old boss.

Or maybe he/she prefers living in never-never land.

[Pastiche423]

38. Please check who I was responding to

It wasn't you, nor was it the collective you.

[Padraig18]

39. Few here at DU are mind readers.

And nothing in the statement makes that clear.

[Pastiche423]

41. Huh?

It clearly shows, at least on my screen, that I was responding to post #24.

[Padraig18]

42. That's incredibly literal.

It also totally misses the point of the subsequent replies. The statement is NOT clear in its intent. It was a general statement.

[Pastiche423]

45. My post was totally clear

JHBowden (323 posts) Thu Apr-29-04 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #14

24. I only see two trains to and from the WH.


Bush can remain in office, or he can be removed.

My response to the above, was that I see more than two trains. Ergo, if he were to take off his (black and white) blinders, he may also see more than two trains.

[Padraig18]

46. No.

Your assumption rests upon a false premise. The election in November is a binary choice--- does Bush remain President, or does he not? There is no third option available, and hence no 'blinders'.

[goobergunch]

61. This is not a recall vote

Most ballots (in fact, probably all of them) will have more than two candidates listed on them.

[Cuban_Liberal]

65. This is a recall vote, in every realistic sense.

There could be 10000 names on the ballot, and there would still be exactly two candidates who would stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning--- Bush and Kerry.

[goobergunch]

67. Only because that is the perception.

Third parties tend not to succeed because nobody thinks they can win. Although I concede that Bush* and Kerry are the only candidate that have a realistic chance of winning, other candidates should not be discounted out-of-hand - as can be seen by the 2000 Florida vote results.

Bush / Cheney 2,912,790
Gore / Lieberman 2,912,253
Nader / LaDuke 97,488
Browne / Olivier 16,415
Buchanan / Foster 17,484
Hagelin / Goldhaber 2,281
Moorehead / La Riva 1,804
Phillips / Frazier 1,371
McReynolds / Hollis 622
Harris / Trowe 562

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/Index.asp?ElectionDate=11/7/00&DATAMODE=

The official margin in Florida was 537 votes.

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[Pastiche423]

79. I don't drink

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[mzmolly]

88. Heh...

:hi:

[goobergunch]

64. I see several

Marked "Bush*", Kerry", "Nader", "Templin", "Peroutka", "Peltier", "Amondson", "Brown", "Van Auken", and "Koppel"...not to mention the yet unlabeled Green and Libertarian trains.

http://www.politics1.com/p2004.htm

[Cuban_Liberal]

66. How many stand a chance at reaching the final station?

Two--- Bush and Kerry.

[JHBowden]

69. Those trains don't head towards DC.

Nader, for instance, is riding on the Bush train from Texas.

Coalition building is essential for success in American politics. The Democratic Party has a broad base which has minorities, working women, and professionals at its core. These people aren't going anywhere; a Nader run only picks off naive college students and affluent suburban liberal males that would otherwise be in the (D) column. Which services Rumsfeld & co, naturally.

[Pastiche423]

72. "These people aren't going anywhere"

True.

Many will be staying home, as they feel their votes do not matter.

Kerry is not distinguishing himself in any way. In order to get people to vote, you gotta give em a reason. You gotta give them hope. You gotta make them feel a part of the process. You gotta excite them!

Kerry does none of the above. In fact, he is doing things to push people away. He should be soaring in the polls.

But he ain't.

[boxster]

25. That's more like a train wreck.

No way is Kerry going to step aside.

Besides, why should he? His victories in the primaries were solid and, in many cases, overwhelming.

The last thing the Democratic Party needs is to show no unity whatsoever by claiming we need to dump the overwhelming choice of voters and pick someone else.

[Name removed]

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[Pastiche423]

78. lol!

Did you ever read, The Little Train That Could?

[mitchum]

80. Nope. I never read children's books even as a child...

I guess that's why I have a firmer grasp of reality than some...

[eridani]

23. Not until July for this kid

KERRY NEEDS OUR HELP

Senator Kerry must offer the voters a CLEAR ALTERNATIVE
to the disastrous policies of the Bush regime.


We don’t want a Democratic version of the war in Iraq.
We must END THE WAR, BRING OUR TROOOPS HOME,
STOP THE WAR PROFITEERING OF US COMPANIES, and
RETURN IRAQ TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE.
Congressman Kucinich has a PLAN to do this.

We don’t want slush funds for the big pharmaceutical companies
or profits for wasteful private health insurance.
We need a non-profit, single payer system
that provides health care for all Americans.
As Congressman Kucinich so aptly puts it,
“We’re already paying for it; we’re just not getting it.”

We must EXPOSE THE LIE that Social Security is going broke.
The system is solvent and can pay all projected benefits through the year 2040.
Congressman Kucinich says that Social Security must not be privatized!
Full benefits must be available at age 65.

We need FAIR trade, not corporate “free” trade that lowers labor and environmental standards worldwide. For workers, family farmers, and the environment,
NAFTA and WTO have meant a GLOBAL RACE TO THE BOTTOM.
The KUCINICH PLATFORM calls for REPLACING NAFTA and WTO with FAIR trade agreements conditioned on workers’ rights, human rights, and environmental protection.

Congressman Dennis KUCINICH CALLS for the REPEAL of the “PATRIOT ACT”.
There is nothing patriotic about a law that nullifies our Bill of Rights! The government must not be allowed, without probable cause or warrant, to snoop on our communications, medical records, library records and student records.

Senator John Kerry is the presumed nominee of our party.
Let’s give him the ammunition he needs to defeat Bush!


Help JOHN KERRY become PRESIDENT---
Give him a WINNING PLATFORM to run on.

VOTE DENNIS KUCINICH !!!

[Nashyra]

30. Clark supporter for Kerry

I to intend to work my fingers to the bone for Kerry, because the most important thing for this country is for us to get rid of the *. Clark has inspired me to get involved, I am running for a local school board position, I am on the executive committee for the Douglas County Democratic Womens group in charge of fund raising, I am our precint captain and was a Douglas county delegate to the Nevada State Convention. Also I am now certified to resgister voters and went to the high school today for a civics class, I registered 12 seniors 6 Dems and 6 independents not one repuke and I know their parents, only 2 of the kids I registered have dem parents. It was a gooooooooooooooooooood day.

[UrbScotty]

32. "Dated Dean, Married Kerry"

Right on, Paddy.

[goobergunch]

47. And praying for a divorce on grounds of temporary insanity ;)

I'm not really supporting Kerry in this election, just opposing Bush* - that's the only reason I'm endorsing Kerry in this election.

----Goobergunch----
DUer since 21 April 2003

[mzmolly]

89. Works for me...!

;)

[no name no slogan]

49. I will vote for John Kerry.

But I've got several more important local races to work on.

John Kerry gets my vote, but not much else, unless he somehow suprises me in the future.

[Cuban_Liberal]

57. If you're a Democrat, it's time to 'come to Jesus', y'all.

The time for 'what might have been' is not now, because we have much important work to do in order to utterly defeat George Bush in November. He wasn't my first or second choice, either, but it's over--- a done deal, finito, etc. . The only question now is 'George Bush, or John Kerry?', and that's a no-brainer, folks.

[IndianaGreen]

85. You know where you can shove that Jesus!

As a Jew I find the call to Jesus highly offensive.

[MAlibdem]

102. ummm...

metaphorical...

[Cuban_Liberal]

108. Yup, yup.

Sure was.

[GOPBasher]

59. My thoughts about what you said:

Ditto, ditto, ditto, and ditto. I agree. Let's get Kerry in the White House. :)

P.S. ditto

[killbotfactory]

63. It is an honor and duty to vote against Bush

I've had problems with Kerry, but he's practically Ghandi compared to the insane assholes in the white house.

[Sparkly]

68. I'm with you

More of my fellow Democrats voted for Kerry than for my first choice -- that's Democracy! I'm a member of this party and I'll fight to retake the White House and restore sanity after the absolute worst, most dangerous administration of my lifetime. John Kerry is my party's nominee and I don't believe I'm a mindless lockstepping milktoast when I say that's enough for me.

[West Coast Democrat]

76. Great! I'm glad you are sounding so upbeat.

I'm upbeat too! No candidate we can put out there is going to be perfect, or everyone's first choice. But we all need to stick together as Democrats to win back the White House. It won't just be about Kerry when he becomes the next President; it will be about all of us working to make a difference when Democrats are back holding some power in Washington.

[mitchum]

77. You are a gentleman, Padraig18

This will be a victory train

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[mrgorth]

82. Howard Dean has asked me

to support JOhn Kerry so I am. I know the Doctor wants a Bushless america for our children.

[jonnyblitz]

83. He isn't Bush so I will vote for him. n/t

[IndianaGreen]

84. The Indiana primary is on May 4

and we don't need anyone dictating to us who to vote for.

Thanks but no thanks!

[ACK]

86. Reasons to vote for Kerry besides ABB

Yes, I have posted this before. But I think it is important to understand what is at state besides the noble goal of getting shrub out of office.

Kerry is not as liberal as Kuicinch or Nader that I will give the naysayers.

However, Kerry is more liberal than Clinton, Lieberbush, or the way the DLC ran Gore the last time.

After all, the idea of changing NAFTA has entered from the fringe of political discussion into the national debate. He has said he will not back the FTAA.

The idea of National Healthcare has entered back into the National debate in a way Gore would not approach last time.

We are now talking about a program of National Service where kids can get money for college WITHOUT having to carry a gun.

Kerry will not take a unilateral piss on our allies in his approach to foreign relations.

He will protect a woman's right to choose.

He has pledged to lift the gag order Bush enacted on family clinics.

He will fight for real environmental legislation instead of Orwellian giveaways to the corporate powers that be.

He has pledged to let the Patriot Act lapse.

He will take away the tax benefits for corporations that ship jobs overseas.

He has pledged to close corporate tax loopholes.

He wants to get rid of the tax cuts for the wealthy and stop the deficit leak.

He wants to fight for strong enforcement of Civil Rights Laws listing the ADA and reversing Buckhannon which makes enforcement of all Civil Rights laws difficult.

He will fully fund Head Start. (really important never been funded right)

He wants a College Opportunity Tax Credit to help people to be able to afford college.

He is the first national candidate to not only talk about cleaner fuels and reducing our dependence on foreign oil but to actually talk about loosing ourselves from the "demon oil."

He has a 90% lifetime record of voting with the AFL/CIO and stands beside the base of organized labor. He does not demonize teachers and workers.

This is a man who can change his mind and makes an informed decision.

+

[mzmolly]

87. Great list thanks!!!!

:toast:

[ACK]

92. Thanks you will see it a lot.

Posting this in a number of threads so people can see there is a reason besides ABB to vote for Kerry.

+

[mzmolly]

91. Chooo chooo!

Count me in... YEEEEARRRGGHH! :P

[TNMOM]

93. Count me in.

My guy's (Dean) out of the race, but I'm not giving up on victory. I'm throwing my support to Kerry.

97. But I want more, Padraig!

I want to be gracious in defeat, as long as being gracious does not mean that I have to pretend that Kerry is my ideal candidate.

I want JFKerry to be more than he is.

Just because my guy lost the race doesn't mean I lost my bearings, or that I've given up on what I deam important!

The issues that mattered to me during the race still matter to me now. True, the highest issue is the removal of W, but once that happens, we have 4 years of Kerry to work through.

I really hope that in January of 2008 I'm not posting to DU about what a miserable failure Kerry turned out to be, and why we need "X" to step up as the designated hitter for the Dems.

[Padraig18]

99. I want more, too, BUT...

... until we remove GWB from the WH, none of the things I want will be possible. It is a black-and-white choice, IMO. 1st order of business: get rid of the Emperor of Crawford.

[Zorra]

106. I'm in the lounge car.

C'mon in, I'll buy you a beer.
:toast: