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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:16 PM
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Why I am supporting Obama (long)
I am a 51-year-old lifelong Dem, somewhere left of center in the party (left of the Clintons, right of Sanders). I was hoping that John Edwards would take on McShame, but he won't. Here's why I am supporting Obama. Take it for what it's worth.

In the first place, I am far from sure that Hillary can beat McShame. He could well take all of Smirk's states as well as MI and/or PA. She has no chance of winning a popular or electoral landslide, and could lose one or both. She will bring to the GE campaign all of her husband's baggage, and none of the glow of his 68% approval rating on 1/20/2001. The attacks on her from Big Media, GOP "leaders" like Dan Burton, Tom Delay,etc., and Hate Radio will know no floor. Chelsea will again be brought under attack. Hil herself will be called a murderer, adulterer, lesbian, bitch, enabler of her husband's adultery, and everything else, right out loud (remember a McShame supporter asking the spotty old dirt bag, "how do we beat the bitch", and him laughing?).

And that brings me to my next point. Should she squeak out an electoral win, her presidency will be an exact duplicate of Bill's. She will be so busy fighting off weekly lawsuits, filthy rumors, lies, malicious prosecution (Whitewater will be re-opened, along with her cattle windfall, Vince Foster's death, the White House Travel Office, etc.) that the Dems will be completely unable to enact any sort of agenda. They may hold onto the House & Senate in 2010, but it won't matter, since the legislative slate will be consumed with investigations into every dollar she ever made, every case she ever tried as a lawyer, and every guest who stayed at the WH while she was first lady. The Yellow Dogs will remain DINOs and many may defect again. Combine all of this with her odious campaign, including her statement that McShame would be a better president than Obama, and you have a candidate that is not worth going to the polls for.

And then there's Obama. He has a CHANCE to make a tidal change in this country. A chance to be so popular here and abroad that the cancer that is the current GOP can be destroyed before it destroys the country. Is it guaranteed? Of course not. Is it a better chance than Clinton? about a million to none. I don't understand how the Clinton supporters can not catch on to the fact that an Obama candidacy will bring 5-10 MILLION MORE YOUNG VOTERS TO THE POLLS, TO VOTE DEMOCRATIC. My daughter's friends are 20something, mostly hard-core Catholic who lean GOP due to the abortion issue but are extremely disillusioned with Smirk by Katrina, his elitist economic policies and the astounding corruption. They love Obama, and are willing to overlook his pro-choice stance because they would much rather he than McShame be president while they become adults. If they don't come to the polls in November, the election will be decided by people who get their news From Limpballs and O'Really. Do you think Hillary can win such a contest? Obama also is far more likely to garner crossovers that HRC. Period. Nothing bad can come of this. People like Rendell talk of how "A lot of people aren't yet ready to vote for a black man for president". So what? Those people are hard-core wingers who aren't going to vote for Clinton either. And they're more than offset by the far lefties who would be swayed TOWARD Obama primarily because of his race. The hordes of young people who are flocking to him may even be enough to neutralize hate radio and cabal news. They'll of course do what they do, of course, but the generation who have been worshiping them during their adult lives will have been overwhelmed by an inspired mass of young people.

Hartmann had on a guest this week called Robert Creamer (not the baseball writer - someone younger). He posts at Huff. He said he's supporting Obama because that's the candidate that's most likely to pull the US out of what is undoubtedly a death spiral at the current point in time. His charisma will provide long coattails in November and will go along way toward neutralizing the GOP media stranglehold once he's in office.

IMO, it's our best chance at REALLY taking back the country, instead of just maintaining a center-right agenda for a few years.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:18 PM
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1. .
:applause:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:23 PM
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2. Obama's got plenty of problems of his own.
He is not likely to do well in either OH or FL, which means he would have to pick some other states that Kerry and Gore lost.
Oh well.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:32 PM
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9. Not likely? FL seems to like him a little:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:16 PM
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21. Thanks! That's what Obama does..
he catches up.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:14 PM
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20. Oh well, indeed...Obama's not perfect, we
know that but his problems are nothing compared to hilary's from the get-go.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:24 PM
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3. I Agree That Only Obama Has The Chance To Be Elected In November...
HRC would mean a sure victory for McSame for all the reasons mentioned.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:25 PM
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4. That is why I've put my life on hold to support this man.
As much as I believe in him, it's not for him. It's for this country. This is our last chance.

Highly recommended.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:26 PM
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5. Reality isn't Obama supporters strong point
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:31 PM
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7. Like the fact that Hillary has to win 67% in every remaining contest
including the superdelegates to get the nomination?

I think we're well aware of that reality. :D
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:46 PM
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12. Maybe your guy should try to win one Democratic state for once
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:52 PM
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16. Like
Washington, Hawaii, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Maine, Vermont, Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Illinois, or Colorado? :shrug:
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:33 PM
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25. It doesn't take much to impress Obama followers
:wtf: most of the states Obama won are Republican states which won't even go to him in the fall as for the other states if you brag about those it's clear shinny metal objects fit your fancy as well.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:46 PM
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13. said the Pope to Gallileo n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:17 PM
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22. Did you get off a
hilary surrogate or hilary herself?
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:30 PM
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6. Well said!
:toast:
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:32 PM
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8. RIGHT ON!
you basically laid out the very reasons I share the exact same view.:toast:
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:40 PM
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10. Well said...
...and agreed!


GObama! GObama!


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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:43 PM
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11. Well said
Your reasons mirror my own. I see coattails with the Obama campaign that I don't think Hillary can carry.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:03 PM
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14. Thanks for sharing your thoughts...here is mine
I am supporting Barack Obama because I look forward to having someone in the White House that is hopefully not as corrupt as those who have been in DC for a long time. I am also supporting him because of his ability to speak in a way that I believe is necessary for a President. I have often believed we could avoid wars with diplomacy. I believe Obama will be able to utilize his great speaking abilities to deter problems with foreign countries.

I also believe his abilities will also enable him to work toward unity in solving many of our problems here in America. In the research I have completed on him, I have also discovered he has the ability to look at the entire issue at hand like a kaleidescope instead of a narrow scope with only one target in mind. Many of our problems need to be approached by looking at the larger picture, I believe Obama is capable of doing that.

I am also supporting Barack Obama because I support the candidate that will stand up for the less fortunate. Our countries poor and middle class needs someone in DC that cares about the everyday strife we face today. I believe Obama won't ever forget what he saw in Chicago while working as a community organizer. No one forgets when they are out there working hand in hand with those who have such critical needs.

As a former Union member, I want a President that not only understands Unions but is willing to go the line to work with them. I also want one that knows there can be compromise on such things as NAFTA, that has seen first hand the effects of it. He knows how to draft changes to NAFTA that will help America's workforce but yet will not pose a dire threat to the adjoining countries of America.

Barack Obama wants to end the war and bring the troops home. We should all want that. We should all want that as soon as possible. I believe Barack Obama means what he says about Iraq. There has been no proof shown to me otherwise. I also believe Obama would not go to war against any other country as long as there is a diplomatic solution.

Why do I believe Obama over Hillary? I was 100% behind Hillary Clinton and hoped she would run for President until just after the 2004 election. Everyone with half a brain knew the election was cooked. We wondered why Kerry didn't contest the election results. The only plausible explanation was the speculation the DLC had made a deal prior to the election that it would not be contested regardless of outcome. The only explanation was evident when Hillaries friends were on tv just after the election stating that Kerry had ran a bad campaign. I remember sitting in front of the tube with a look of horror on my face when I realized just what had gone down. I believe it was not contested because they knew if John Kerry was victorious, he would certainly get an additional term which would prevent her from having a successful bid in 2008.

I wrote several in Congress after the election asking them to join John Conyers in his attempt to investigate Ohio. I remember who responded and who didn't.

Despite all that, a few months ago, I hadn't listened to Barack Obama and the only thing I knew about him was he gave a great speech in 2004. Then, I turned on the TV and he was speaking to me. He wasn't telling me about himself, instead he was talking about what he was going to do when he was elected. I liked what I heard.

Yes, it would be great to have a female President, but not the one who is running. When we finally have a female President, I want it to be someone who hasn't already been exposed to the corrupt Washington politics. I want it to be someone who I can stand and be proud of.

Barack Obama, you have given me hope that the system can be beat. You have given me hope we may be able to clean up DC. You have inspired me to become involved in politics again. I will proudly cast my vote in November for you.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:24 PM
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15. Nicely said
It is discouraging that so many in the party get angry at the fact that Obama is inspiring hope among the young and the discouraged and the really, really pissed off. Watching him I know how my then-28-year-old parents felt watching JFK. They'd spent their youth first in depression, then in WWII, then the Korean War, and wanted someone young and different and hopeful. I apologize to no one for wanting out of the mess we are in.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:04 PM
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18. I was ready to give up on politics totally
and a very close friend of mine had given up totally. Until she turned on her radio and heard Obama... she voted, something she swore she would never do again. I honestly believe we may finally have a chance to really "Take Back Our Country" but it isn't going to be easy... the trillions made on the war... the connections of corruption won't be easy to beat.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:22 PM
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24. I'm looking forward to it,
too, NBSH!
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:02 PM
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17. kick
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:13 PM
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19. Thanks, TOJ..excellent reasoning as
an early Edwards supporter and then I started looking at Obama. I hope Edwards is able to have a role in an Obama admin.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:19 PM
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23. kick
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:28 PM
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26. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:43 AM
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27. Kick for the AM crowd
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:58 PM
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28. Kick once more. After watching the speech I feel even more strongly
about this subject ad my thoughts on it.

:cry:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:59 PM
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29. Thanks for kicking this...
I missed it before.

:hi:
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:08 PM
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30. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours
Rats. Here's a :kick: then.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:14 PM
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31. Thank you
There is a great deal to find fault with in Senator Obama. He's pretty corporate for my taste and I don't know if he has Bill Clinton's enormous intellect and ability to assimilate details. I would like to hear if he's going to have a cabinet that will attempt to undo the damage inflicted over the last 8 years, and he might be more religious than he should be.

But god dammit, he has the personality to get a large majority of the country AND THE WORLD pulling in the same direction for awhile. He will pull in Clinton's huge adoring crowds and people will actually listen to him, unlike the mean, corrupt idiot we have now.

I am willing to hang my hat on that.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:45 PM
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32. Great post!
:hug:
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