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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:07 AM
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There is no excuse, Hillary hasn't shown leadership

Having done the dirty work, Ferraro is "stepping down" from Clinton campaign

by Joe Sudbay (DC) • 3/12/2008

You know how the traditional media took awhile to fully grasp that Bush lied about going to war? I think many Democrats have had the same problem trying to grasp the reality of the Clinton's race-baiting campaign. We've seen example after example -- starting with Billy Shaheen in New Hampshire, Bill Clinton in South Carolina, even Hillary's weird answers on "60 Minutes" to name a few. People kept thinking, these are the Clintons, it can't be true. Anyone who broached it was slapped down. In December, even after the Shaheen incident and comments by Mark Penn, pundit (and former Clinton staffer) David Gergen said on CNN "I think it is unfair to say that they're playing the race card." Still unfair? Because it's true. And, it's sickening.

The Ferraro episode is just the latest and clearest evidence. Ferraro has been in the game for a long time. She gets it. She knows how the media operates. She knows the impact of her words. She is, after all, a Fox News consultant with her own Fox News bio. The Clinton campaign also knew exactly what was happening. They didn't stop it. And, it's hard to imagine Howard Wolfson and his crew couldn't rein in Ferraro.

This afternoon, Ferraro told Clinton she is "stepping down" from the campaign.

Markos explains the reality:

This is what the Clinton campaign is reduced to. Taking a candidate who has inspired hope and passion, and working overtime to turn him into the "black candidate" even though she has no hope of winning the nomination absent a coup by super delegate. Now there's a legacy for Clinton. Congrats to her on pulling that one off.

And it's clear as day, given their refusal to ask for Ferraro's resignation, that the Clinton campaign is as complicit and pleased with Ferraro's words as they are with her media strategy.

He's right. And, it's so disturbing, I'm sure many Democrats still can't comprehend it.

Before the announcement that Ferraro quit, Cafferty weighed in, too. He also noted the complicity of the Clinton campaign:


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Gergen acknowledges reality:

Ex-WH adviser David Gergen: "I think Barack Obama had every reason to go after these comments, because they're so reminiscent of what we are hearing just after New Hampshire and going into the South Carolina primary and just after the South Carolina primary. And those remarks by the Clintons and by some of their surrogates, trying to sort of marginalize him as simply a black and diminishing him in that sense, trying to put him in a box, you know, I think backfired on the Clinton team. And I think it was one of the turning points in his campaign that helped Barack Obama" ("AC 360," CNN, 3/12).

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While some are making excuses for Hillary, complaining about media unfairness, her media pundit network, including her Fox Noise connention, has been doing her dirty work.

In additon to Ferraro, there is Suzanne Estrich on Fox:

Estrich appears frequently on Fox News as a legal and political analyst, giving the liberal perspective. She has also substituted for Alan Colmes on the debate show Hannity & Colmes. Estrich writes regular articles for NewsMax for which she is a pundit.<1> and is also on the Board of Editorial Contributors for USA Today. On January 10, 2008, she joined the Quinn Emanuel Urquhart Oliver & Hedges law firm, a litigation powerhouse based in Los Angeles.


Susan Estrich: Race and the Democratic Party

<...>

When people called me in a panic about the exits showing California too close to call, showing Obama with leads in primary states that Hillary was supposed to win, I took a deep breath and suggested they do the same.

I had a two word answer for all the folks who said it was over, that Hillary was dead, that all the money and momentum for Obama meant he would walk on water come the time for the polls to close.

<…>

New York was a romp. New Jersey was easy. Even Massachusetts — the most liberal state in the nation, where Obama won the endorsements of both Senators, Kennedy and Kerry, not to mention the newly elected African American Governor, Deval Patrick, even Massachusetts was Clinton country.

What is going on?

If you paid attention to the gushers in the press and punditry in the days leading up to Super Tuesday, Hillary was on her way to the morgue, murdered by her crazy husband’s loose talk, abandoned by young voters and women and anti-war Democrats, and anyone else they could think of.

Not so.

Partly, it’s a measure of Hillary’s strength. But it’s also a sign of Obama’s weakness which, it seems, we who chatter for a living have been reluctant to speak about, lest we be tarred with having raised the “race card.”

But, the fact is that there is a long pattern of what we in California call the “Bradley problem” in polling, after the former Los Angeles mayor who was elected governor in every poll, including the exits, except that he lost at the ballot box. Did I mention that he was African-American?

That was, according to the pollsters, the problem: about 10 percent of the electorate claimed that they were going to vote for him, and in many cases even told pollsters that they did, but they lied.

Shocking. Racism in America. Who’d a thunk it?

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Hillary's media ties run the spectrum left to right. Until late January, James Carville, Paul Begala, and Robert Zimmerman on CNN:

Okay, this is interesting. I've just learned that CNN has told top Dem strategists James Carville, Paul Begala, and Robert Zimmerman -- who are CNN mainstays but are all Hillary supporters -- that they will not be doing any more political analysis on the network until the Democratic primary has reached a conclusion.

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Clintons' InfoUSA Ties Scrutinized

by Peter Overby

<...>

Info U.S.A.'s CEO is Vinod Gupta, a close ally of both Clintons. Gupta's empire also includes the Opinion Research Corporation, which conducts the political polling for the television network CNN.

Vin Gupta has a long history of giving and raising campaign money for the Clintons, and gave $1 million for the 2000 Millennium Celebration, a New Year's Party thrown by the Clintons.

<...>

Last fall, ABC News reported that the library rented out a portion of its donor list to a list broker — the same one that rented Hillary Clinton's campaign lists.

Gupta spent $900,000 of corporate money flying the Clintons to various destinations. The Clinton campaign said in May that Info U.S.A. had been reimbursed to comply with federal campaigning and ethics rules.

After the Clintons left the White House, Gupta hired Bill Clinton as a consultant. It's one of two continuing business relationships he has had since leaving office, and it has been worth $3.3 million, in addition to the options on 100,000 shares of stock.

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Hillary Clinton woos man who nearly ruined her husband

• Campaign staff use Drudge Report against poll rivals
• Internet journalist gentle with Democrat candidate

Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
The Guardian,
Tuesday October 23 2007

A decade ago, the internet journalist Matt Drudge was very nearly Bill Clinton's ruin, after leaking the story of his affair with Monica Lewinsky. These days, Drudge is one of Hillary Clinton's best kept secrets.

During the presidential campaign, the Drudge Report, once known as the scourge of Democrats, has betrayed a surprisingly soft side for the woman previously viewed by diehard Republicans as the mother of all that is liberal and permissive in America. When Ms Clinton had a coughing fit during a speech in New Orleans last summer, Drudge reacted with genuine concern, telling listeners to his Miami radio show: "Hillary dear, take care of yourself. We need you," according to New York magazine.

On another occasion, he confessed: "I need Hillary Clinton. I need to be part of her world. That's my bank."

Yesterday, it emerged that the caring went two ways. The New York Times reported that the Clinton campaign had grown adept at using the Drudge Report to leak news that could steal the thunder from rivals, or to solidify her position as the frontrunner for the Democratic party's presidential nomination for next year.

Earlier this month, Ms Clinton's staff leaked campaign fundraising data to the website just as her rival for the nomination, Barack Obama, was to deliver a policy speech on Iraq - and a crucial 20 minutes before the official release of the information. The story on Ms Clinton's fundraising prowess dominated the news cycle.

The New York Times reported that the Clinton campaign had opened a direct line of communication to Drudge through a former Democratic national committee official, Tracy Sefl. Ms Sefl refused to comment yesterday, but the revelation was widely seen as a sign of Drudge's importance in the US media, despite his reclusive nature and a history of getting some stories spectacularly wrong.

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There's no public record linking Rodriguez to Clinton's campaign, and he's not part of her New York political universe. The one of my two sources who had more detailed knowledge of his connection to the site, and who spoke on the condition of anonymity, had no evidence linking him to the campaign.

However, there's some suggestion that some close to the campaign were at least aware of his existence.

When I learned of his identity, I emailed Tracy Sefl, a Clinton consultant who is perhaps best known as the campaign's liaison to Drudge, and whom reporters and insiders have long speculated -- without evidence -- was behind the site. She was amused to learn that I'd finally linked someone to the site.

"I know very little about this. But I have been tremendously flattered by your opinion of my Web skills and assumptions about my free time," she emailed.

But she did seem, at least, to know Rodriguez's name.

I'd asked her if she knew "Alex." She then made a joke about the Yankee third baseman, also named Alex Rodriguez. But I hadn't supplied the full name of subject of my story, so I asked how she knew his last name.

"I don't know him. I just heard his name somewhere," she said, denying again any role in the site. "I haven't sent this person anything, ever."


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Given those facts and Hillary's weak, last-minute attempts to quell the race controversy, the excuses from her apologists are astounding.

Hillary’s campaign continues to employ Rovian tactics. When Obama said she made supportive statements about NAFTA, she despicably accused him of demagoguery, when she had in fact done so.

When Obama pressed Hillary to release, her spokeman Howard Wolfson compared Obama to Ken Starr.

At this point, a fair-minded person trying to give Hillary the benefit of the doubt can only assume that she is not in control:

There are those “see an intent,” I’m just not sure if it’s there or not. The problem, at least for me, is that genuinely offensive examples have been juxtaposed with unpersuasive examples, and both have been treated with nearly equal weight.

I found Ferraro’s comments repugnant, but I found talk about the Clinton campaign “darkening” Obama in an ad unpersuasive. I found the racially-charged comments around the South Carolina primary to be insulting and odious, but I found the racial analysis of the “3 a.m.” ad unconvincing. Some of the controversies have been real and unworthy of a fine senator’s campaign, and some of the controversies feel manufactured and exaggerated. Given this, it’s difficult to automatically make the leap that Clinton has a real desire to “hear the kind of casual prejudice that still haunts this society voiced,” presumably for electoral gain. Not impossible, but difficult.

That said, Olbermann’s charge from the outset — that Clinton is now “campaigning as if Barack Obama were the Democrat and you were the Republican” — strikes me as far more persuasive.Towards the end of his commentary, Olbermann said, “This, Sen. Clinton, is your campaign, and it is your name. Grab the reins back from whoever has led you to this precipice, before it is too late.

Putting aside Ferraro and whether the racial component of the race is intentional or not, that may be sound advice. I frequently get the sense that there’s a growing number of Democrats who admire and respect Clinton far more than they admire and respect the Clinton campaign. That’s not a healthy development, but it is one that can still be remedied.

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Some examples of how Hillary got to this point from being a front runner---enjoying near royalty status as a former First Lady, campaigning with Bill, a former two-term President, and being labeled inevitable---to slinging dirt, engaging in divisive politics and looking the other way:


The question is who is in charge?

The MSM has played along, extending the life of Hillary's campaign by gaming America about Hillary, just as they did with Bush.

Hillary has survived on spin.






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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:21 AM
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1. HRC "Obviously I don't agree with what she said, and I reject what she said." Countdown, last night.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:26 AM
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3. Who are you quoting??
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:38 AM
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6. HRC, on Countdown, last night,
Some of watched it, and some just pretend they did.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:29 AM
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4. Here, comment on
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:40 AM
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7. That's just a link to some dead thread from yesterday.
With unsourced "quotes".
Not even worth a charity bump.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:23 AM
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2. "have it both ways" Obama is defended as the leadership guy - like on Nafta where
it is there will be no change despite what I say

on social programs where there will be no change despite what I say (Kudlow's CNBC program comment by chief economics adviser to Obama).

and on the war in Iraq there will be no "out of Iraq in 16 months" change despite what Obama says (comment by chief foreign policy spokesperson Ms Powers to EU newspaper) - he will review the situation when elected and decide on actual change needed at that time.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:35 AM
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5. Only morons and Obamaniacs think HRC would try to win a democratic primary by using racism.
Everyone knows that the Clintons aren't racists, and everyone OUGHT to know that even if they were, they are far too smart to try to use racism to win a DEMOCRATIC Primary. That would be idiotic! Bringing race into a Democratic Primary is absolutely the LAST thing any white Democratic candidate would want to do -- as it would automatically and completely doom their campaign.

OTOH, It might be VERY smart to inject racism into a Democratic Primary if you could make yourself appear to be a victim of it.

Note where all the charges of racism are coming from.

Based on flimsy evidence or none at all, these wild, unproven charges are coming from the place where they are manufactured -- from the Obama campaign, its supporters and its steadfast (until the GE) media allies.

Only one campaign is benefiting from these nasty accusations of racism -- the campaign that keeps bringing that dirty charge up: the Obama campaign.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:40 AM
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8. Is that why Hillary is still apologizing for Bill? n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:42 AM
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9. Fantastic post, thank you!
The HuffPo's story on Obama's plot to Swiftboat the Clintons on Race:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:55 AM
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10. Your spin is Hillary's talking points. Deal with the facts
Look at the dates in the memo:

Earliest date: DRUG USE (ABC News, 12/12/07)

(Here is a link)

Latest date: SHUCK AND JIVE (Newsday, 1/11/08)

That memo was obviously written after Jan. 11, days after Hillary's MLK comment and a full month after the drug use comment by the Clinton campaign.

Asked for evidence of the Obama campaign's role in fomenting the controversy, a Clinton aide cited a staff memo, leaked to political blogs, that compiled quotes by Clinton and her allies that seemed racially insensitive.


So after injecting racially charged comments into the debate and accusing Obamas's campaign of race baiting, Hillary's campaign's proof is a memo written after all her campaign's deliberate race baiting, which has continued:

Drug dealer, fairy tale, imaginary hip black friend, gang bang, cult, shuck-and-jive, Hispanics don't vote for black people, Obama is Somalian, Obama meets with former terrorists, all from Hillary's campaign and surrogates.

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:59 AM
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11. Thanks for the comedy! You should do stand-up!
:rofl:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:06 PM
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12. Thanks for the kick and nervous laughter. n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:18 PM
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13. All these kicks...
... and your spam is still ignored.
:rofl:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:21 PM
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14. "All these kicks... and your spam is still ignored." Except by you, wonder why? n/t
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:00 PM
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24. Funny, I've got him/her on Ignored as well!

First time I've put anyone on. Now instead of feeling aggravated, I'm
tickled pink. I highly recommend this action.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:24 PM
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15. Almost as if it is now being scripted
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:50 PM
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16. Exactly!
I know some people wish these facts will go away!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:23 PM
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18. If it seems like a familiar script I think we have seen it before
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:27 PM
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26. Thanks for the link! n/t
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:12 PM
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17. She's always hiding behind people

Great post.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:47 PM
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19. Exactly! n/t
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:49 PM
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20. Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:13 PM
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21. Yeah, remember when Hillary campaign took a Rovian turn?
Response: nervous laughter!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:47 PM
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22. The Hillary spinners are out in full force, the target:
Trinity United Church of Christ is a megachurch, the largest congregation of the United Church of Christ, with 10,000 members.<1> It is also one of the largest African-American churches in Chicago, Illinois. Barack Obama, the junior United States Senator from Illinois and candidate for the Democratic Party Presidential nomination, is the most notable congregant, and a member since 1988.<1><2><3><4> The pastor has most recently been the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.<5><6><7> Wright announced his retirement to Senior Pastor status in early 2008, and he is being replaced by the Rev. Otis Moss III.<8>


The United Church of Christ (UCC) is a mainline Protestant Christian denomination principally in the United States, generally considered within the Reformed tradition, and formed in 1957 by the union of two denominations, the Evangelical and Reformed Church and the Congregational Christian Churches.

According to the 2007 yearbook, the United Church of Christ has approximately 1.2 million members and is composed of approximately 5,518 local congregations.

Although similar in name, the UCC denomination is theologically and, for the most part, historically distinct from the Churches of Christ, a loose affiliation of conservative congregations<1> that arose primarily from the Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement in the 19th century.


Maybe they can demand the UCC cut its ties with Obama's church.


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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:53 PM
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23. K & R
:thumbsup:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:13 PM
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25. Ferraro still at it: Obama camp 'did it to hurt Hillary'

Ferraro: Obama camp 'did it to hurt Hillary'

Posted: 06:52 PM ET
Ferraro is standing by her original comment.

(CNN) – One day after she stepped down from her role in Hillary Clinton's presidential bid, Geraldine Ferraro said she blames Barack Obama's campaign for the uproar over her recent comments.

In an interview Thursday with CNN affiliate WJAR in Providence, Rhode Island, the onetime vice presidential candidate also said the Obama campaign made a mistake in taking aim at her remarks.

"I do think this was a mistake on part of the Obama campaign," she said. "They didn't have to do this, and they did it to hurt Hillary. I just think that's bad. I think it's bad business, and I think it's bad politics.

"I was accused of being divisive. I think those tactics are divisive," she added. And the amazing thing is its not something I started, its something they did in reaction to this."

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:33 PM
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27. No excuse:
Mar 13 2008 12:58PM EDT

The Ferraro Fallacy

At first I was willing to give Geraldine Ferraro the benefit of the doubt. Maybe she was clumsily trying to say that a lot of Barack Obama's appeal is because he's a spectacular candidate and he's black and people are hungering for someone who can bridge racial divides. If she was trying to say that, it would surely make sense. But she kept digging herself in, saying that Obama's "lucky" to be black and that that accounts for his leading in the popular vote and delegates. Absurd, I thought, but thought maybe she meant something else. I was even willing to concede that she was trying to make a goofier but not necessarily offensive point: something like if Barack Obama was a white freshman senator from Illinois, it's unlikely he'd be running for president. Yes, that's true, I suppose, but it's an absurd conjecture. If Barack Obama was someone else he wouldn't be...Barack Obama. If Ronald Reagan lactated, he wouldn't be Ronald Reagan. If I wasn't Jewish, I might be a Buddhist. So what? If you start stripping away parts of people's biographies and substitute what ifs like it was some science experiment, it's just idle banter. As for the "luck" part, please. Let's leave aside centuries of racism. Obviously, being black is not enough to elevate one to the presidency or President Sharpton would be finishing his second term.

Ferraro seems so unwilling to concede the obvious, that this exceptionally intelligent, charismatic and winning senator is leading because he's a great politician and that , while race is surely part of his appeal, it is just one part and hardly sufficient in and of itself to propel him to this exalted place. As Obama keeps saying if you were to write a handbook on how to become president you wouldn't start by being African-American and having a funny name. Her asinine comments keep getting layered by ugly remarks. Ferraro says she's getting attacked because she's white. No, she's getting attacked because she's stupid.

I buy Dorothy Rabinowitz's argument today
that the Clinton campaign, for which my spouse works, is getting an unfair rap for running a racially charged campaign. But the Ferraro comments are ugly and the Clinton campaign's failure to fire her is pretty appalling given how exorcised it had become over the Samantha Power comments which the Obama team dealt with summarily. It can't be easy to jettison a once-admired feminist pioneer but still it's pretty amazing that Ferraro quit and wasn't fired and then wouldn't get off TV and shut up.



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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:34 AM
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30. k & r =)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:35 PM
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28. The way she has run her campaign has been an eye-opener.
She operates on hubris, bullshit, and epic incompetence, not unlike the current administration.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:50 AM
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29. Clinton role in health program disputed

Clinton role in health program disputed

By Susan Milligan
Globe Staff / March 14, 2008

WASHINGTON - Hillary Clinton, who has frequently described herself on the campaign trail as playing a pivotal role in forging a children's health insurance plan, had little to do with crafting the landmark legislation or ushering it through Congress, according to several lawmakers, staffers, and healthcare advocates involved in the issue.

more stories like thisIn campaign speeches, Clinton describes the State Children's Health Insurance Program, or SCHIP, as an initiative "I helped to start." Addressing Iowa voters in November, Clinton said, "in 1997, I joined forces with members of Congress and we passed the State Children's Health Insurance Program." Clinton regularly cites the number of children in each state who are covered by the program, and mothers of sick children have appeared at Clinton campaign rallies to thank her.

But the Clinton White House, while supportive of the idea of expanding children's health, fought the first SCHIP effort, spearheaded by Senators Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, and Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, because of fears that it would derail a bigger budget bill. And several current and former lawmakers and staff said Hillary Clinton had no role in helping to write the congressional legislation, which grew out of a similar program approved in Massachusetts in 1996.

<...>

But privately, some lawmakers and staff members are fuming over what they see as Clinton's exaggeration of her role in developing SCHIP, including her campaign ads claiming she "helped create" the program. The irritation has grown since Nov. 1, when Clinton - along with fellow senators and presidential candidates Barack Obama, Chris Dodd, and John McCain - missed a Senate vote to extend the SCHIP program, which was approved without the votes of those lawmakers.

Kennedy said he patterned the SCHIP plan on a similar program Massachusetts had approved in 1996. Kennedy's account was backed up by two Bay State healthcare advocates who met with Kennedy in Boston to discuss the possibility of taking the idea nationwide: Dr. Barry Zuckerman, director of pediatrics at Boston Medical Center, and John McDonough, then a Democratic state legislator and now the executive director of Health Care for All, a healthcare advocacy group.

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Hillary mailer accuses Obama of "demagoquery," Kennedy responds and a fact check on SCHIP


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 03:53 PM
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31. Model:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:24 PM
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32. Contrast the way Hillary bundled the response to Ferraro's racist comments
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 10:24 PM by ProSense
to Obama handling Wright!
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