What Would JFK, RFK, MLK, LBJ, and Many Others Say?

[redstate_democrat]

I've always thought that the greatest decade for the Democratic party was when it stood up to HATE in the 1960's and rejected Jim Crow, discrimination, segregation, racism, sexism, etc, by pushing through legislation that would finally at least, make it unlawful to discriminate on the basis of race, sex, national origin, religion, etc and the voting rights act. Many people died and fought to be able to cleanse this country of the bigotry and hate that was sure to destroy it. When I think about the people who died simply because they believed all people should be treated equal, it really hurts my heart...especially now since it seems like the party that stood against that hate in the 60's seems to be imploding because of it due to one woman's insatiable thirst for power.

Everyday people were lynched, dragged behind trucks until their limbs were ripped from their bodies, shot in the back, children blown up in a Church, churches set on fire, dogs allowed to attack protesters, a beloved President assassinated, a presidential candidate assassinated, a transformational leader assassinated, all because they believed this country could one day live up to the ideals proclaimed in our Constitution. It's sad that now, the party that stood for equal treatment, the party that has lost so many great leaders, leaders who stood for something and were courageous and who died because of their beliefs, is now represented by the likes of a Hillary and Bill Clinton or an Ed Rendell or a Ferraro. What would JFK think about Hillary's actions? What would MLK or RFK say? What would Medgar Evers think? Emmit Till? Those four little girls who were blown up in that church?

What does TED KENNEDY, CAROLINE KENNEDY, and ROBERT KENNEDY JR. have to say about this? They have lost love ones behind the exact kind of race baiting and fear mongering the Clinton camp keeps putting out there for the ignoramuses.

I am so saddened. My parents and grandparents lived through the Jim Crow south. The stories they've told me still sends chills up my spine. Then to see a candidate like Senator Barack Obama be told by the DEMOCRATIC party leadership that he is NO GOOD, that he is only where he is BECAUSE HE IS BLACK (half), that HE IS THE PROBLEM, really enrages me to no end. I am angry at the Democratic party. I am angry with the leadership of this party for ALLOWING this to happen. I am angry with party leaders because they have failed to reign in Hillary's destructive campaign. Hillary has SHAT on the memory of JFK, RFK, MLK and countless others who died in their quest to make this country a better place FOR ALL people, not just BLACKS!

It is a shame.

[TheZug]

1. MLK would say hold that door open for the white woman, she goes first!!!

On Bizarro Earth, anyway.

[jackson_dem]

2. Which campaign is pressuring superdelegates to vote for someone based on same skin color?

Hint: it isn't Hillary's.

[Medusa]

4. Which campaign is trying to subvert the will of the people by

trying to strong-arm pledged delegates, not the SD's to change their votes, their way??
Hint, it's not Obama.

[jackson_dem]

7. LBJ and JFK would probably say "atta boy" to that lol!

[bellasgrams]

20. It definitely is BO. There's reports in the news the black delegates

are being threatened by the BO people, and he has paid them hundreds of thousands of dollars. Read the news. They have the exact figures.

[redstate_democrat]

21. Your lie

is so transparent, I don't even have to provide proof to show how erroneous it is.

Seek help.

[cottonseed]

5. You're angry.

[jackson_dem]

I am angry at the hypocrisy of Obama and his use of homophobia and racism to win votes

[cottonseed]

16. I'm sure you are. You've got to get it together though.

These kinds of numbers are getting unproductive:

70% of Clinton supporters say they will not vote for Obama.
55% of Obama supporters claim they will not vote for Hillary.

Even Ferraro can't hold it together anymore. Hillary wasn't owed this thing. You guys have got to come to grips with this. I realize Obama came from nowhere and no one in her campaign knows what the hell to do, but don't take the whole Democratic name down with you. If you would have read Molly Ivins' article from 2 years ago, you would have been a bit more prepared for it and in a little better emotional state to handle your loss.

[gore_as_a_compromise]

17. Good Call.. Corrine Brown, member of the CBC, talks about her vote for Clinton ....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR2008021503756.html

"I have no stress whatsoever," Brown said. Other CBC colleagues, she said, "want to support the person because he's African American. But as Martin Luther King Jr. said, 'Judge me by the content of my character, not the color of my skin.' " Brown said she is not concerned about the possibility that her constituents might seek to punish her for the decision. "People know I'm going to do what I think is right," she said.

[redstate_democrat]

19. What does this have to do

with my OP? I'm failing to understand how Hillary's race baiting campaign should please Democrats. What would JFK say?

[bellasgrams]

23. JFK would say BO should stop his race baiting.

[redstate_democrat]

27. Hey

seek help. God bless you.

[gore_as_a_compromise]

24. You asked what MLK would have to say... He would not endorse Uncle Tom Threats *NT*

[redstate_democrat]

28. Seek help

and God bless.

[Johnny__Motown]

8. based on their gender maybe?

[jackson_dem]

10. Has anyone, say, her national co-chair been caught doing that?

[redstate_democrat]

11. Which campaign

just said Senator Obama is only where is he because he is black?

I believe the SDs are being encouraged to back the candidate that their constituencies voted for. If I represent a district that voted 70-90% for one candidate, what sense does it make that I support the OTHER candidate, if their "policies, ideas, etc" are the same? Don't try to divert away from the REAL issue. I know you can't handle it, but that's okay.

[jackson_dem]

15. Ferraro speaks for the campaign? She isn't the national co-chair like JJ Jr.

Wrong. Jackson Jr. was busted making an explicit racial appeal and then on top of that threatening a primary challenge if black superdelegates voted for Hillary.

What sense? It is called doing your job as a superdelegate. If you think a candidate is better you should support that candidate.

Do you see Hillary's co-chair calling Kerry and saying "You are white. Your constituency is mostly white. Vote for the white candidate--or else..."?

[redstate_democrat]

22. Did Jesse Jackson

say that Hillary Clinton is only where she is because she is not only white, but a woman as well?

Get back at me when that happens.

[jackson_dem]

26. Jesse Jackson Jr. says black delegates should vote for the black candidate--or else

[redstate_democrat]

30. You didn't answer my question.

That's okay. I already know the answer.

[jackson_dem]

31. It is an irrelevant question. Ferraro and Jackson Jr, his national co-chair, are not the same

Ferraro is similar to Charles Barron, another New Yorker who made a racist statement. He said blacks should vote for Obama because he is black. The Obama campaign, unlike the Hillary campaign, did not denounce his statement.

[FrenchieCat]

14. You are such a lowlife, I just have to put you on ignore......

Cause your ass is getting way out of line.....too much for me to respond without getting my ass kicked out of here after 5 years.

Better if I don't even have to read the dumbass shit that you pollute this forum with.

[babylonsister]

3. Big fat recommend. It's early, and I suspect the voices will come, but

this, by Clinton and her campaign, is untenable.

[scheming daemons]

6. I am a former Edwards supporter... it is disappointing me greatly that he isn't speaking out....

....he NEEDS to come out and denounce the Hillary campaign.

[bellasgrams]

29. Why should Edwards say anything to the Clinton campaign. It's

the BO campaign that wants everything their way. It's like play my way or I'm taking my marbles and going home. When the Hillary people speak the truth, the BO people rant and rave and can't stand it. Read the papers, read the news on the news web sites. The BO campaign has been paying huge amounts of money to the SDs and threatening them if they don't vote by color. Now who is playing the race game. I never thought BO would stoop to this, but I was wrong. Yet his people are so mean and hateful and terribly hateful to Hillary and blame her for things beyond her control.

[Genevieve]

9. recommended ;))

[woolldog]

12. I hear you.

I'm just wondering what kind of lasting repercussions this will have on the democratic party? Not that it matters b/c I'm only one person but I will probably be switching from Dem to Independent. I can't be a part of a political party that countenances this type of conduct by it's representatives.

The democratic party, for me, was also the party of inclusiveness, of playing to the best in people, not pandering to racism and engaging in race-baiting. That's what Republicans are supposed to do. This is one of the reasons why I was always comfortable in the Democratic party and voting for the Democratic candidate....because I had a sense that there were shared values. I feel like an idiot now, like I've been duped for most of my life, for having felt this way.

I'm so disgusted.

[redstate_democrat]

18. I was also

under this mistaken impression. I've always thought the Democratic party was the party of the "good guys" ...the party for ALLLLL the people, the party fighting for the "little guy", the party that cares about our Constitution, etc. I was naive. I never KNEW there were so many racist Democrats. I just assumed they would be Republicans. I know that is pretty stupid to think, but I guess the party is a big tent after all. If this situation isn't denounced by the party leadership, then I'm out of here. I will be an Independent and I would encourage OUR elected officials to also SWITCH/DROP their current party affiliation to begin a new third party system.

[bellasgrams]

32. I feel that way too.

[cooolandrew]

13. I understand the hurt HRC is causing but let's embrace the grace ofr Barack and rise above it.

[bellasgrams]

33. HILLARY IS NOT CAUSING THE PROBLEM. IT'S BO AND

HIS LIES AND MEAN SUPPORTERS THAT ARE CAUSING THE PROBLEM. BO HAS TWISTED SO MANY OF HILLARY AND BILL'S STATEMENTS. Neither Clinton has ever had this mean spirited type of campaign before. All campaigns get a little testy but only with BO have we ever seen anyone stoop to these levels. Then BO acts sooooo innocent. The man is evil. On top of that yesterday there were BO people on here wanting to riot. How do expect people to feel? Most Americans aren't used to the way people behave on here.

[Catherina]

25. Today those great men would say "Thank you". Don't be sad

They'd say thank you.

They'd say thank you for the Mississippi win.



They'd say thank you for realizing we weren't "dumb animals" just fit to wash your dishes and shine your shoes.



They'd say "thank you for honoring our dreams".



They'd say "thank you".



Thank you.

[bellasgrams]

34. There was a terrible injustice done no one disputes that. This

is a political race that should be based on the best candidate not on his color or her gender. Color nor gender should determine the winner. I understand how proud people of color are of BO but many of us feel that just because he is black does not make him the best candidate. Maybe in a few yrs, but not now, we need a qualified individual and the best qualified in the running is Hillary.

[Catherina]

35. Yez Miz Lillie n/t