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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:36 PM
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truth cannot be spoken anymore in this country.
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 06:58 PM by flordehinojos
to point to the fact that baracka obama is black ignites a tinder box of enraged people who want to deny the fact that the man is black. but his race is not what i hold against him. it is his disingenuity, his underhandedness, and his dishonesty.

now just because geraldine ferraro has pointed out the obvious people are flaming her.

and it would be so much more honest of baracka obama that yes, because he is black he is getting deferential treatment, and to admit that yes, he is banking on the deferential treatment to get him through the door of the white house and on to the oval office come january 2009.

one cannot cover the truth with one finger, stop a dike with one finger, nor cover the sun with one finger.

edited to correct the work dyke to dike. thank you for point this out.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:37 PM
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1. Wow--another racist on ignore.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:59 PM
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16. And another "concern" troll
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:05 PM
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26. Really.
Ferraro speaks the truth and makes me realize something about myself... I'm so unlucky!!! I wish I was a biracial kid with a funny name whose father walked out on me when I was two!!!

:eyes:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:37 PM
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2. Here's flordehinojos version of the truth:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:38 PM
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3. Go burn a cross somewhere else, Rush. n/t
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:00 PM
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19. And another
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:39 PM
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4. There was no truth to Ferraro's statement - just more race baiting from some of Hillary's surrogates
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:40 PM
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5. So, in other words
Barack Obama is some kind of Affirmative Action candidate?

His accomplishments are not his own?

He's a token, perhaps?

Hmmm?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:01 PM
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20. Third one's a charm
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:15 PM
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35. Third what?
Do tell?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:45 PM
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38. That's YOUR take, your words, your ideas
not the poster's to whom you reply.

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:40 PM
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6. Bull fucking shit.
Ferraro didn't "just point to the fact that Obama is black" She said the only reason he's where he is is because he's black. Big fucking difference. Hillary's desperation and her supporters desperation is really starting to annoy me. So you hold Obama's dishonesty against him yet you will post a lie that is so easily dis-proven that I don't even need to find a link. :rofl: :rofl:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:03 PM
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22. This thread is like dynamite fishing
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:07 PM
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29. What does that mean?
I dare you to dis-prove what I said. Please, show me the clip where "all Ferraro did was say he's black"

Oh wait I get it, you can't, so you make some veiled reference to fishing. :rofl: rofl: :rofl:


All I can do is laugh these days...
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:40 PM
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7. "but his race is not what i hold against him"
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 06:41 PM by JVS
How generous of you. But please, don't feel compelled to refrain because we are here
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:40 PM
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8. "..now just because geraldine ferraro has pointed out the obvious people are flaming her."
The only thing OBVIOUS is your rationalizing of blatant racism being used to advance a political agenda...

defending an indefensible position never works out positively....

defending her comments as true ignores the real truth of what she said:

"Here is a BLACK MAN, trying to become President of the United States. You wouldn't really feel comfortable with that, would you?"
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:04 PM
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24. Dynamite fishing in a barrel
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:05 PM
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27. Another Obamaniac banzai!
Poof!

You're a mushroom!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:43 PM
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10. Just like Hillary should come clean and point out her preferential treatment
as a female and to admit that she is counting on the dererential treatment (female votors) to get her to the oval office come Jan 2009 - get real...

I notice Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson or Geraldine Ferrero didn't do all that well based on skin color or sex alone.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:43 PM
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11. baracka obama?
Why do you call him 'baracka'? Is this your way of denigrating him by misspelling him name or is it your prejudice that is at work here?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:55 PM
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14. No. It is his Arabic and Koranic name.
His grandfather was a devout Muslim. His father too was a devoted Muslim. His father gave him the Arabic and Koranic name Baracka which is not an African name at all. Just pointing to his roots.
that is all.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:59 PM
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17. Your inference sucks.
Muslim, Muslim, Muslim.... roots.

Why not post that 'Obama is a Muslim' email and get it over with?

- as
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:03 PM
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21. "just pointing to his roots, that is all" What disingenuous bullshit.
I've noticed a disgusting uptick in the number of Hillary supporters who keep bringing up the BOGUS muslim thing.

Knock it the fuck off.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:09 PM
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32. I bookmarked this one
just in case... hehe they are getting so pathetic it's nothing but laughable anymore.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:08 PM
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30. THANK YOU! Now when Hillary supporters say
no one is accusing Obama of being Muslim I have a post to point out to them.


Get fucking lost troll...
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:57 PM
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15. Sounds close to "macaca".
:eyes:
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:43 PM
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12. Truth cuts both ways; that's the problem.
Ferraro never would have been selected as Mondale's running mate if she hadn't been a woman. Hillary Clinton is experiencing both benefits and challenges by being a woman, just as Barack Obama is for being of mixed parentage (but since he looks black, everyone has decided that's what he is).

For Ferraro to get on her high horse about the special treatment he's receiving is pretty astonishing hypocrisy.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:44 PM
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13. Obama has become a master of race-swiftboating
His pathetic campaign can only succeed when he plays the victim. He can't discuss issues, his resume is weak. He has nothing to run on besides his ability to give speeches and repeat catch phrases.

As a huge fan of Ronald Reagan, we shouldn't be surprised that he resorts to this kind of tactic. And his constant attacks on Clinton have only made him more and more alienated from the women's base of the Democratic Party.

He doesn't have many more people he can turn to besides young voters who don't have enough experience to know what a sham and huckster he is.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:00 PM
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18. Fuck off racist.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:03 PM
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23. Aww. Things are so hard for the poor white people.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:04 PM
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25. then go to another country...
We won't miss you.

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:06 PM
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28. You know what's great about these kinds of threads?
That this kind of bigotry isn't going on in secret anymore.

Let it all hang out, guys. I'll keep a tally.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:09 PM
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31. Wait. Being black gives a presidential candidate an advantage?
On its face, that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:10 PM
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33. It's the night of the Mississippi Primary.
Forty years ago, three college students were murdered in Mississippi for attempting to register blacks to vote.

Today, all citizens of this state have the opportunity to vote, and tonight, for the first time in history, they can, should they choose, vote for a black candidate for President of the United States.

That's really all you need to know about truth, justice, equality, and our nation, which I love so dearly.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:12 PM
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34. Wow.
"and it would be so much more honest of baracka obama that yes, because he is black he is getting deferential treatment"
---
Klan meeting end early?
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:17 PM
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36. I figured it was only a matter of time before a HillBot tried to justify RACISM.
Have a good time at your KKK meeting. Say hi to Geradine for me.

J
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:31 PM
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37. poppycock
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