You know, Spitzer's call girl incident doesn't bother me.

[saracat]

These were gorgeous women who charged an enourmous amount of money and according to the transcripts enjoyed what they did.I understand the issue of hypocrisy but I really have no problem with this form of prostitution and except for the fact that Spitzer was married,( and this is a personal matter between him and his wife) as long as he paid for it with his own money who cares?
These are not women 'sold into slavery' or abused in any way. I just don't understand some of the outrage over this. Sex is just sex and he paid for it.

[Yes We Did]

1. I think his wife might disagree with you.

Personally, I don't care if he wants to pay for it, but I DO mind him cheating on his wife.

[saracat]

6. That is personal betwen the man and his wife.It isn't my business.

I don't feel it has anything to do with me.

[Yes We Did]

8. I'm just saying... Not cool.

Although, at least he was a man about it and didn't wag his finger at us and deny it.


Hi Bill.

[Joe the Revelator]

2. So, how much?

I'll fly you out.

[saracat]

9. For what they got? $31, 000 a day? I'd go! No joke

[Joe the Revelator]

17. Do you take pay pal?

[saracat]

25. Uh uh! I would only take cash. and no phone calls. I don't want to be wiretapped!

[LisaL]

3. Well, there is a little problem with prostitution being illegal and all.

[nsd]

4. I would agree, except ...

Spitzer, as attorney general, prosecuted other people on prostitution charges. His hypocrisy is what bothers me.

[saracat]

16. I noted that . just saying those who think the thing itself is sooo horrible.

[yardwork]

43. I agree. However, the hypocrisy is pretty blatant.

That level of hypocrisy - that amount of obviously feeling above the law - raises a lot of questions about his judgment. That raises the question about whether or not he can be an effective leader. I think that he should resign.

But I don't think that anybody should go to jail for hiring a willing prostitute. Seems silly.

[Medusa]

5. It's illegal.

And he made an oath to uphold the law right? That would be your problem right there.

[Yes We Did]

11. Yeah, but it shouldn't be illegal. This country is so ass backwards.

[dsc]

13. what about morality clauses

should gay teachers be condemned for breaking those oaths (until 2003 most teachers in many southern states would have signed such clauses).

[Thrill]

7. uhhhh The problem is having sex while he was MARRIED

The issue isn't buying sex. or even having sex. Its how he's treated his wife. Now if she agreed to let him do this, then there should be no outrage. But its also illegal

[saracat]

23. But that isn't anyone's business. That is their problem. the Illegality is another thing.

I don't think it should be illegal but it is!

[galaxy21]

24. when he was in the DA he made a big deal out of prosicuting prostitute rings...

That's very hypocritical...

[JI7]

10. the outrage is he prosecuted people for that

and now has gone and done it himself.

[Yes We Did]

14. He should have just went to canada. He was close enough.

[Bigleaf]

12. After thinking it over, I agree. I mean it's not like Billy Bob heading down to the local

massage parlor for a rub and tug. These girls are getting big$$

[JVS]

19. Oh, so only rich people deserve sex with no strings?

[Bigleaf]

26. No, no no. I'm just saying that these high-priced escorts are, for the most part, doing this

because they are making big $$ and living lavish lifestyles, whereas a lot of the average or poor escorts are being pimped out by physically/emotionally abusive thugs. Of course there are exceptions to everything, so...

[JVS]

30. Are you claiming that massage parlors are run by abusive thugs?

[JVS]

15. I can tell how little it bothers you by how much you keep posting about it.

[deminatl]

18. the question..

would you care if he was a repiglican?

[saracat]

20. Not really, other than how it might be used against him if he was a religious nut. it didn't bother

me that Vitter went to aprostitute but that he preached "family values".

[JI7]

22. and that's the same thing with Spitzer

he went after people for prostitution also. even worse than Vitter as he prosecuted them rather than just preach it.

[saracat]

28. I don't know if it is worse but it seems hypocritical

but again, we don't know the full story .At the very least this sure wasn't an "average " call girl service. This was outstanding! I was impressed. If i were young and beautiful, I would have been tempted to work there.

[JI7]

35. sorry, but that's even worse because it allows the wealthy to do something

that would be illegal for others.

Spitzer has apologized and admitted to some link. we do need to full story but if there was nothing there i doubt he would have apologized, especially the special mentnion to this family.

[saracat]

37. And no doubt it irks you that young and beautiful girls are paid more! ah well!

Prostitution should be legal on all levels and regulated.Just my opinion.

[JI7]

42. i think it should be regulated also rather than allowing only people like Spitzer

to take advantages of the service and then turn around and prosecute others for the same thing.

[saracat]

46. That was wrong I agree but it wasn't wrong just because he was rich. I would have been just as

wrong if he had hired a $50 streewalker for a blow job.

[JI7]

48. you are the one who brought up how these women get paid a lot

my point has always been he is a hypocrite.

[speedbird]

21. my concern, blackmail

a governor is commander-in-chief of the state police,
the state national guard,

etc, etc

[RandomKoolzip]

27. If it was Bush's friend, you'd be crying foul.

It'd be more stuff we could throw at him. It shouldn't be any less of a scandal just because it's OUR guys.

[Perry Logan]

29. I can't help but suspect this was a political sabotage by Republicans.

Whenever a Democrat is in trouble, one should suspect Republican political operatives. I'm just a total conspiracy theorist when it comes to character assassination of Democrats.

[saracat]

34. Yes seeing as they have taken down two Democratic Governors recently.

recently.But hey there are those on DU who are silly enough to think this is about Super Delegates!

[MojoMojoMojo]

36. Is he a superdelegate supporting Hillary?

[saracat]

39. Yes, but if he resigns, his lietenant Governor will replace him and he supports hillary too!

[Jed Dilligan]

31. He was top cop in NY

When any top cop breaks the law, even if it's a law I disagree with, the guy should fucking fry for it. That's how I feel about cops who break their precious "law."

[Quixote1818]

32. I could care less. He screwed up but it's minor compared to what many have done

It should be between him and his wife, though he should have been smart enough to go to Nevada and get it legally.

[rasputin1952]

33. What I see is someone who is making a shot at an explanation,,,

now what I see in a tory like Larry Craig, is a stupid fight after he pleaded guilty, though it was forgotten, and when it came out, he went to extremes to exonerate himself...knowing full well he was a guilty as all get out. While no one wants stuff like this to come out, they would gain some modicum,, of respect if they simply said, "It was an error on my part, and I regret it"...as always...it is the attempted coverup that creates more than the original act.

[anigbrowl]

38. It's not the sex that's at issue

If he had opened up the village voice and entered into some private transaction with some lady of the night, I'd agree. Bad political instincts, bad way to treat your family, but not really the electorate's business.

My problem is not that he got laid, it's that he used a a VIP sex company to do so, and specifically requested a setup in another state, presumably for purposes of discretion. Sure, it's not Exploitation Inc. at those prices, but running that sort of business (and on an international scale too) is real close to organized crime... lots of cash + blackmail-worthy clientele + operations on 3 continents = recipe for shady dealings.

As best I recall, the prostitution ring he busted in 2004 in Staten Island was also a high-end service.

[saracat]

41. Good point but I kinda was inmpressed that it was so "high end'

Guess I'm easily impressed. LOL! But you are correct.

[xchrom]

40. doesn't bother me -- he's no vitter or craig -- and he did

a great job with corpporate crime.

we can't find osama bin laden -- but we can find a guy spending his money on high priced call girls who JUST HAPPENED to be a prime corporate crime fighter. right.

[AX10]

44. Prostitution should be legalized and regulated.

Enough said.

[Yael]

45. That is because Sexism isn't involved

I have much respect for you, but notice that lately, you jump on any criticism as sexist whether it is manufactured or not.

:(

[saracat]

47. I didn't say this was sexist.! Actually many would argue that prostitution is

sexist but I am not one of them!

[Pushed To The Left]

49. I agree with you that prostitution should be legal for consenting adults. However, I think the

controversy is that he had spoken out against prostitution rings and has now been busted for the same thing. It bothers me much more that he cheated on his wife then it does that he saw a prostitute, though.