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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:35 PM
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1.1 million voters attended Texas caucuses
I keep seeing some bogus numbers from the Texas caucus turnouts. Those numbers mostly do come from Hillary supporters.

1/3 of delegates were up for grabs in Texas caucuses. 2.8 million participated in the primary. 2/3 of the delegates were up for the primary. You do the math!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/05/texas.caucus.count/index.html?eref=rss_politics

Texas had a 2 step election process. Hillary barely won the primary while Obama dominated her in the caucus, and thus won more delegates. (And most possibly more votes)

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:39 PM
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1. Your "more votes" comment is ridiculous
Everyone in the caucuses already voted in the primary, so "more votes" doesn't mean "more voters"

Here in America, we prefer one man, one vote.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:40 PM
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2. That does not matter, this was a two step process and many Hillary fans did also turnout to caucus
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:09 PM
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6. two step process? In most cases it was just a sign in - there was
no debate or discussion - it was just voting again. I know I know rules are rules.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:48 PM
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3. For everyone here is more on the CNN website to explain...charts, etc.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#TX

Did you mean to say that Sen.Obama because of his showing so far in the caucus (conventions) got MORE votes? He could win more delegates but not more votes. You have to vote in Texas to caucus....but you don't have to caucus. I know it sounds confusing but that's the way it is.

There are 126 delegates awarded from the primary voting and 67 from the caucus....for 193 and the rest to a total of 228 are super delegates.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:52 PM
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4. And more, from Burnt Orange Report, a TX website:
http://www.burntorangereport.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5297

Lots more where this came from, search the link.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:47 PM
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5. Interactive TX map w/ primary and caucus results
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/TX.html


Interesting....look at different parts of East Texas. HRC got the primary votes by a large margin yet LOST by a HUGE margin at the area's caucuses


And we wonder why she hates caucus states so much.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:32 PM
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7. She didn't get the popular vote by a large margin
Region.....................Obama.....................Clinton.....................Obama.....................Clinton
..................... ..................... ................................................diff..........................diff
Austin.......................95,534.....................54,848.....................40,686
Houston/Galveston......89,017.....................31,935.....................57,082
North Texas..............85,365.....................31,606.....................53,759
Rural Central.............69,761.....................57,688.....................12,073
North Texas..............61,175.....................44,591.....................16,584
North Texas..............52,676.....................42,207.....................10,469
East-Central.............51,512.....................48,414.......................3,098
Houston/Galveston....50,413.....................42,107........................8,306
Houston/Galveston....49,872.....................30,118......................19,754
East-Central.............47,150.....................52,428................................... .................5,278
East........................44,565.....................44,098.........................467
Houston/Galveston…..43,497.....................37,261.......................6,236
North Texas.............43,379.....................46,302........................... ..........................2,923
North Texas.............42,562.....................37,842.......................4,720
North Texas.............41,739.....................31,393.....................10,346
East.......................40,234.....................47,887......................................................7,653
Houston/Galveston....39,310.....................44,689...................…................................5,379
East......................35,742.....................50,423................…......... .........................14,681
Border/South...........35,526.....................82,096..................…................................46,570
Border/South...........33,968.....................55,439..................…................................21,471
East......................31,904.....................54,209................…......... .........................22,305
Border/South............31,360.....................53,442................…......... .......................22,082
Border/South............29,750.....................68,380..................…......... .....................38,630
Rural Central............29,708.....................39,336................…...................................9,628
Rural Central............29,579.....................33,629........................... .........................4,050
Border/South............29,085.....................68,039........................... .......................38,954
West Texas…...........27,400.....................45,513..................…......... ......................18,113
West Texas..............26,356.....................40,709........................... .......................14,353
Border/South............25,089.....................61,782........................... ........................36,693
Houston/Galveston...19,736.....................35,828........................... .........................16,092
West Texas.............16,962.....................26,392..................…......... ........................9,430
.........................1,349,926................1,440,631..................243,580......................334,285

Total:..................................2,790,557........................... .....diff:...............90,705

more


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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:03 PM
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8. Yeah, I know.. I was going by the # of votes at a county level in East TX
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 10:09 PM by rainbow4321
For example:

Cass County it was HRC 67% to Obama's 27% in the primary voting. But when you look at the same county for caucusing it's Obama 74% to her 26 % with only 14% counted. Similar going on in the other area counties (which are at various stages of "% reporting")
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