Is Obama counting on black voters to put him over the edge?

[aquarius dawning]

Poll question: Is Obama counting on black voters to put him over the edge?

[NightWatcher]

1. get your racebaiting out of here

[aquarius dawning]

10. It's only racebaiting when a Hillary supporter asks such a thing I guess.

But it's A-OK when we ask whether Hillary is depending on the white supremacy vote.

[NightWatcher]

15. no, it's all wrong, but two wrongs dont make it right

[hueyshort]

38. Obama is doing the race baiting

screaming Clinton made him look too dark in an ad?
Give me a break!!

[Saturday]

2. Of course he is. Michelle told us that months ago. nt

[mrreowwr_kittty]

3. Hey genius, what Dem has won the presidency without black voters in recent history?

Unfortunately, your candidate screwed the pooch with that demographic and is paying the price for it now.

[aquarius dawning]

25. Maybe. I'm wondering how well that will work out in the GE though.

Black folks are disproportionately represented in the democratic party but in the bigger picture, they are disproportionately not represented which mneans he's going to have to depend on white voters to pull off a GE win, white voters in traditionally red states that will happily vote for John McCain. It seems like a strategy that works out very well for him in a democratic party primary but which leads to certain failure in the GE.

[jgraz]

4. Nicely played, sir.

[NDambi]

11. ha ha

[TexasLady]

5. Im black?

cool!

[ecstatic]

9. LOL! nt

[jgraz]

17. Haven't you heard? Black is the new bitch.

[DURHAM D]

28. Hey try to keep up - Monster is the new Bitch. eom

[jgraz]

30. You know what? I'm totally cool with "monster".

That epithet has been well-earned.

[AX10]

6. Michelle made this clear months ago.

[woolldog]

7. I wonder sometimes

whether Obama would be winning more handily if he didn't have such overwhelming support of black voters.

It seems as if that scares white voters (like the OP) for some reason? and has ended up polarizing this election a bit?

[Saturday]

12. How do you know the OP is White or that they're scared? nt

edited for spelling

[woolldog]

16. b/c he wouldn't have asked that question if he was black

[Saturday]

21. You have no idea why he asked that question or what color he is. nt

[woolldog]

22. Sure I do.

It's called race-baiting.

And the insinuation is that somehow black votes are less important than white votes. It's just coded language. You get good at hearing it growing up in this country as a minority.

[thereismore]

8. Last time I checked, a black voter counts just like a white voter. Get out. nt

[Muttocracy]

35. ditto nt

[anonymous171]

13. What's wrong with that?

Black voters are the MOST loyal of our voting blocs. Why demonize them?

[Hoof Hearted]

32. Why is it OK for some Obama supporters to demonize mature white women or those without college

degrees? Why is that OK, but this is not? Don't tell me you haven't seen that or ask for some asinine link. It's everywhere, and requires very little effort to find.

[anonymous171]

33. Are you talking about that "scared white women" post?

That was more about Clinton's fear tactics, which incidentally, work best on older and less educated people. Nothing against those groups though, just saying.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

14. Yes, and there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

I'm gay. I'd probably vote for a gay man or a lesbian if one ran in my lifetime.


I'm a Hillary supporter. I see nothing wrong with AA's voting for Obama.

If Obama gets the nomination, I will support him WITHOUT hesitation and proudly!

[me b zola]

18. You are the one over the edge

...and if you're not, let me give you a little nudge.

[npincus]

19. is HRC counting on white voters to put her over the endge?

idiotic question.

[LSK]

20. yes and so what???

Are we now trying to say black voters do not count?????

[aquarius dawning]

31. No, we're saying that black voters are disproportionately represented in the Democratic party

and that when that advantage evaporates in the General elction, Obama will lose all those red states that he did so well in and we will be complaining about President John McCain for the next 4-8 years.

[LSK]

39. so you mean New York and Mass and IL will not vote for Obama??

Every state that she has won will be states that any Dem will carry in the General.

Also care to explain how Obama won Idaho, Kansas, Nebraska, Washington, etc etc...

[aquarius dawning]

40. No, I'm not saying that. I am saying that the advantage he is using in the primary

won't be there in the general election.

[frazzled]

23. Damn straight: it's only okay when white politicians count on black voters

When black politicians count on black voters, it's really unseemly. It's "not fair." They aren't real voters, after all: they're black voters.

And it's totally different than when a woman politicians counts on women voters to put her over the edge. That's okay. Because .... um ... because .... they're not black?

[Yukari Yakumo]

24. Yes and no.

Deliberate doing it? No.
Is it happening anyway? Yes.

[aquarius dawning]

27. Will it help in the GE? No. It will be an albatross hanging about our neck.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

26. huh? I doubt it....he can add and they are only 13% of the population

[aquarius dawning]

29. right. but not 13% of the democratic party population.

bad planning BO.

[Gore1FL]

34. He's already "over the edge"

He's got the nomination locked up. It's a matter of how few super delegates he'll need.

[Window]

36. Hardly. Blacks only make up approx. 11 - 12% of total pop.

[aquarius dawning]

37. yeah, that's my point actually.

At length did cross an Albatross,
Thorough the Fog it came;
And as if it were a Christian Soul,
We hail'd it in God's name.

[Bucky]

41. Oh darn, if only Obama could have legitimate, American votes instead of those inferior black votes!

How'd they ever pick up that other 2/5ths anyways, huh?

[ContinentalOp]

42. Let's see.

African American turnout in '04 was 60%. There are around 40 million African Americans, about 30% of whom are under 18. So that makes about 28 million eligible black voters and around 17 million of them voted in the 04 elections. If Obama can get say 70% of African American voters to turn out in the GE that would be an increase of almost 3 million Democratic voters. Which is coincidentally the split between Kerry & Bush's popular votes in 2004. I have no idea what this would mean for the electoral college but it's interesting to ponder.

[FedoraLV]

43. Obama's Votes

No, he's counting on all voters to put him over the top, he has 12,920,961 so far. :D

source: <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/blake-fleetwood/hillary-has-narrow-30657_b_90318.html>

I'm not counting states where new primaries are being discussed.

-FedoraLV

[NMMatt]

44. He's counting on Democratic votes

How come no one asks the other question - is Hillary counting on white votes to put her over the edge? This poll is racist pure and simple.

[NOLALady]

45. Of course not.

I do believe the last Democratic President expected Black voters to get him an edge.