The Power statement: the "monster" insult not as insulting as the rest of it.

[Phillycat]

The ON THE RECORD part. All Hillary supporters, this is what the Obama campaign thinks of you:

"You just look at her and think, 'Ergh'. But if you are poor and she is telling you some story about how Obama is going to take your job away, maybe it will be more effective. The amount of deceit she has put forward is really unattractive."

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Inside-US-poll-battle-as.3854371.jp

So according to the Obama campaign, Hillary supporters are poor, stupid, gullible, or some combination of all three.

This Ivy League-educated upper-middle class Hillary supporter would like to have a little conversation with Samantha Power. I can say "go fuck yourself" in Latin, if it helps.

[anonymous171]

1. She's saying that Hillary likes to scare people.

The comment was directed at Hillary, not the voters she scares. Don't try to deflect it.

[Cant trust em]

2. Clearly the Obama campaign doesn't think that

or they wouldn't have had her apologize and she wouldn't have resigned.

[Abacus]

3. I think your Ivy League education

could have emphasized a little more reading comprehension.

[democrattotheend]

4. Why has Clinton never had to apologize for the president of the machinists?

Who outright insulted Obama supporters, PUBLICLY calling them "latte-drinking, Prius- driving, Birkenstock-wearing, trust fund babies"?

[casus belli]

41. Very very good point. n/t

[Danieljay]

5. ummm... I dont think she was referring to Hillary supporters in that statement... read it again.

but if the shoe fits and you choose to wear it.... ok.

[C_U_L8R]

6. monstrous deceit

That confirms just about everything I've heard from the Clinton campaign.
They seem to have a real problem with the truth (both accepting it and telling it).

[Danieljay]

7. dupe post...self delete

[angie_love]

8. Bush went to Yale but I'd hardly call him "smart"

so I don't give a shit if you are ivy league educated. Does that mean you're smart to me? Not in the least.

[peace13]

9. That would certainly raise the level of the argument.

Why don't you do that. I would like to hear your explanation of how it is just fine for Hillary to endorse Johnny over her Democratic brother and then we can delve into how the aid has slighted so many.

[islandmkl]

10. 'on the record' and out of full context...

your conclusions based upon your 'snippet' expose your view of the poor versus what you claim Powers' was implying.

[sandnsea]

11. She is lying to working class voters

She is a huge ally of Indian outsourcers, and ME outsourcers. Bill did lay the way for this massive opening of Chinese trade. Hillary is lying to them about her economic policies. It's a fact. The one that needs to be told to go fuck herself is Hillary Clinton and her conniving smearing lying ass.

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. "You just look at her and think, 'Ergh'

I guess the Obama campaign feels that way about her.

[John Q. Citizen]

22. Actually, a lot of people do. If Hill manages to steal the nomination, you will be surprized at how

many feel like that.

That's why Hill has the highest negatives in of all candidates in both campaigns.

You won't be able to understand it. You will whine about how unfair it is.

But people don't vote for people that make them go 'Ergh'

[The_Casual_Observer]

25. Look in the mirror.

[anamandujano]

31. Obama is trying to steal the nomination, but it won't work. The lion's share of

the voters aren't as dumb as BO's supporters at DU.

The voters, who vote, who represent the will of the people, are turning their backs on the empty, nasty@ss empty suit.

[greyghost]

55. It seems that they are. I'm an Edwards supporter who really had

enough of the Clinton's the first time around. Granted, I voted for Bill twice and met him in person a couple of times.

However, Hillary is not Bill and never will be.

So when Edwards failed to get traction I gave Obama a good hard look.
Frankly, I didn't find much substance. His supporters here at DU haven't done much at all to change my mind, in fact just the opposite.

[annie1]

58. omg, now she's gonna steal the nomination? lol. she's only 140 dlgts behind, calm down.

[islandmkl]

13. "This Ivy League-educated upper-middle class..."

i forgot to mention how condescending THAT little revelation into your ego appears....

and i thought ALL you Ivy-Leaguers hung together...

[Phillycat]

28. Heh.

An Ivy-leaguer who went to Southern in Philadelphia and grew up on food stamps. So, no, you have no idea who I am.

[islandmkl]

33. i only reacted to your own words and the way you presented them....

there is an old axiom out on the prairies among the farmers:

"Anybody more than 20 miles from their hometown in an expert."

Probably lost on you, but here in DU, it applies.

[TahitiNut]

43. Yeah. Sure. Clarence Thomas had a tough childhood too.

:rofl:

[LisaM]

14. I posted the exact same thing!

When did Hillary ever tell a poor person that Obama was going to take his or her job?


Who IS Samantha Power, anyway? (Other than, I hope, a has-been).

[bicentennial_baby]

17. Pfft!

"Samantha Power is the Anna Lindh Professor of Practice of Global Leadership and Public Policy, based at the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy, where she was the founding executive director <1998-2002>. She is the recent author of Chasing the Flame: Sergio Vieira de Mello and the Fight to Save the World (Penguin Press, 2008), a biography of the UN envoy killed by a suicide bomber in Iraq in 2003. Her book "A Problem from Hell": America and the Age of Genocide (New Republic Books) was awarded the 2003 Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction, the 2003 National Book Critics Circle Award for general nonfiction, and the Council on Foreign Relations' Arthur Ross Prize for the best book in U.S. foreign policy. Power's New Yorker article on the horrors in Darfur, Sudan, won the 2005 National Magazine Award for best reporting. In 2007, Power became a foreign policy columnist at Time magazine. From 1993 to 1996 she covered the wars in the former Yugoslavia as a reporter for the U.S. News and World Report, the Boston Globe, and The New Republic. She remains a working journalist, reporting from such places as Burundi, East Timor, Kosovo, Rwanda, Sudan, and Zimbabwe, and contributing to the Atlantic Monthly, The New Yorker and The New York Review of Books. Power is the editor, with Graham Allison, of Realizing Human Rights: Moving from Inspiration to Impact. A graduate of Yale University and Harvard Law School, she moved to the United States from Ireland at the age of nine. She spent 2005 to 2006 working in the office of Senator Barack Obama."

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/about/faculty-staff-directory/samantha-power

[islandmkl]

34. well yeah....but other than that?....

[susankh4]

54. Too bad she isn't aware

of her own elitist leanings.

[MrCoffee]

26. Samantha Power is a brilliant, gifted, extremely talented liberal mind

She's ten times smarter than both of our candidates combined, and this stupid crap is really pissing me off.

This country would be far better off with her as President than either Obama or Clinton.

[bicentennial_baby]

29. Damn straight!

:applause: I 100% agree with you!!

:hi:

[BlackVelvet04]

39. Obviously not smart enough to not say things that got her fired....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[MrCoffee]

42. Aren't you clever?

Aren't you?

[BlackVelvet04]

50. It's pretty obvious she wasn't smart enough. n/t

[bunny planet]

57. Amen

[MrCoffee]

15. my brain just exploded

don't make me choose between janesez and Samantha Power.

[Phillycat]

32. Don't worry...

someday this unending godawful primary season will be over and we can go back to making dick jokes in the lounge.

Ah, dick jokes, how I miss you...

[lapfog_1]

16. The quote you put in your OP

says, clearly, "IF you are poor"

not "You are poor"

And it's about Hillary's fear mongering to generic voters, not Hillary supporters.

And the amount of deceit Hillary has put forward IS really unattractive.

I would have used much stronger language myself.

Your Ivy League education apparently failed you. At least in reading comprehension.

[Elidor]

18. If

Conjunction: in case that; granting or supposing that; on condition that.

Usage:
If you are predisposed to hyperbole, some people might find your arguments spurious.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

19. We've been told here on DU that Sen Obama doesn't need us and we're ordered to go away and

and it apparently doesn't matter to the candidate if we campaign for him, donate money or vote for him, at least according to some rabid DU posters.

Good thing the Army taught me how ignore "orders"! :patriot:

It'll be interesting to watch him fall all over himself praising her, should he be the nominee. He will definitely know better than to take us for granted or demonize life long, honorable Democrats.

:-)

[RaleighNCDUer]

40. Self delete.

Never mind.

[Lerkfish]

20. well, I'm beginning to believe that is not really an insult at this point

it seems to be an accurate assessment.

IMHO.

[Mass]

21. Educated, but with problems with reading comprehension.\nt

[Lucinda]

23. LOL

I can say "go fuck yourself" in Latin, if it helps. <---- Love it. :rofl:

[Rock_Garden]

24. Yes! K&R!

Would you consider telling me how to say "go fuck yourself" in Latin? I'd love to know that.

[Phillycat]

35. Heh...

Well, there isn't a direct translation of "fuck" into Latin, but the closest would be "Go make love to yourself", which is something like "Vado planto diligo vestri". :)

[Rock_Garden]

38. Thanks! I'm gonna file that away for future reference.

It's kinda classy.

[MoonRiver]

27. The messiah created his followers in his own image.

Just check out GDP if you question that statement.

[snappyturtle]

30. I think Samantha said that Hillary lies and if one is poor and told

that Sen. Obama is going to take one's job it is an ugly way to campaign. She also said some of Hillary's supporters may be poor. I see the word poor. I do not see the words, or their implications, stupid and gullible. The poor may be rightfully fearful (effective) after being told a fairytale of Sen. Obama's powers.

[islandmkl]

36. turn your monitor upside down, get a mirror....

and you'll see all that stuff...

but no tax returns...

[snappyturtle]

49. Can I do that tomorrow? n/t

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

37. You drew an erronious conclusion

This Big-Ten educated lady knows that when one says "IF you are poor....." it doesn't mean or imply that Clinton supporters are poor, stupid, gullible, or some combination of the three. The point is that Powers feels that Clinton has been fear mongering. A far stronger argument to make would be to refute these claims. Can you provide links or quotations that show Clinton is not fear mongering to the poor? That would impress me far more than the fact you can say a rather crude expression in Latin. In Illinois, we were taught to use language more effectively.

BTW, I'm not an Obama supporter. I'm a supporter of good argument and use of civil language.

[thevoiceofreason]

44. I got $5 on Samantha if you two want to tangle.

[Liquorice]

45. She sounds very elitist. nt

[cali]

46. oh please, she did not say Clinton supporters are poor stupid or

gullible. She didn't even identify the generic voter she was talking about as a Hillary suporter.

And what you'd like to say to Power? Right back at you.

[RBInMaine]

47. YOU are SILLY. This was ONE person, and is now GONE.

You are silly to extrapolate the words of one person to everyone.
There have been MOUNTAINS of damn shitty things said about Obama and his supporters by team-Hillary and her backers. Please try to be fair.

[LSK]

48. you might want to stay current on that whole NAFTA thing

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=101953&mesg_id=101953

[ruggerson]

51. kicked and recommended

Took the words out of my pen. (or fingers)

[greyghost]

52. LOL! I can as well, my HS Latin teacher, who was a nun, would...

be so proud.O8)

[susankh4]

53. The elitism... ewwww!

K&R

Thanks for the comment.

From another post-grad gal.

[ecstatic]

56. delete

lol

[lmbradford]

59. sorry

That isn't what was said. Try again.

[Beacool]

60. A Harvard degree doesn't guarantee having common sense.

Samantha Power managed to offend several groups at once:

- She insulted Hillary Clinton
- She offended people from Ohio
- She offended working class people
- People found her cursing offensive
- She disavowed Obama's promise to withdraw troops from Iraq within 18 months

To top it all, she spewed these gems to a foreign newspaper.

Great going Ms. Power, I'm sure Sen. Obama is very grateful for your help.

:rofl: