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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:34 PM
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Has kerry admitted that he made a mistake on the IWR vote yet?
I mean how much more deaths does he want. Now we have this radical fundamentalist who manage to kill at least 12 U.S. Slodiers. The death keep on piling. I want Senator Kerry to admitt that this War is WRONG and that he made a mistake voting for it. I do not want a future president who has bloods on his hands. At least he can apologize.

Also why isn't Kerry going after Bush and his adminstration about taking us to war? He should be constantly bringing up that subject. He should be hitting Bush hard that over 600 U.S. soldiers have died because bush Sent us to war in Iraq.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:36 PM
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1. Kerry has to be very careful on this. Bush will say JK supports Sadr.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:04 PM
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14. Careful like the Dems
were in 2002?

Yeah, that's the ticket!
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:40 PM
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2. Kerry should not "flip flop" on this issue, it will hurt him!
He has the right position, which is the position of most Americans.

He trusted Bush and gave Bush the benefit of the doubt and Bush lied to him.

He should not say that he made the wrong decision just to make a few on the far left happy and risk losing the election over a major "flip flop".

We need to think strategically, not emotionally, if we are going to win back the White house.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:48 PM
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7. He made the wrong decision...
...and his position is most definately not right.

"He trusted Bush and gave Bush the benefit of the doubt"...

...why? Why the hell would he do something so stupid? What had Bush done to earn that trust?

"...and Bush lied to him."

We didn't. The "far left", and a good number of moderates and even those on the right tried warning everyone. Think strategically? Please, more like just trying to avoid the fire of shame.

If this is the kind of "strategic thinking" that goes on in Kerry's campaign, then Kerry will LOSE. And my opposition to the war was not thinking "emotionally", so don't insult everyone that made the right call, didn't trust Bush, and had the integrity to call him a loser by saying so.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:35 PM
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20. "there was a right way and a wrong way to go into Iraq"
And according to Mr. Kerry, Mr. Bush chose the wrong way. What's left unsaid is that this country was going to go into Iraq at some point in time. Kerry was not decieved. He is simply following US policy, a long term policy that transcends party politics. Bush implemented the policy badly, alienating friends and enemies alike. Kerry promises to do better.

And no, Kerry will not lose.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:35 PM
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19. Sorry, but you Kerry cheerleaders don't get to have it both ways.
Either Kerry is the guy who could single handedly bring down the Bush Criminal Empire

*OR*

"He trusted Bush and gave Bush the benefit of the doubt and Bush lied to him."

If one of those statements is true, then the other one cannot possibly be. So which is it?

I don't trust my sworn enemies. Never, under any circumstances. Especially when I KNOW them to be lying, criminal soulless shitbags, as the Bush Criminal Empire are. So why would Kerry?

Your reasoning does not compute. Strategially, emotionally, or otherwise.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:41 PM
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3. "I do not want a future president who has blood on his hands"
Don't vote for *.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:41 PM
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4. Too bad they all hav blood on their hands
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:42 PM
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5. I don't think should.
While I strongly oppose this war you have to look at that vote without the help of hindsight. Assume that Bush had used that vote to pressure Saddam to let the inspector back in then backed off. I would have had to admit it was a success. Of course Bush did not stop there and has thrown this country into a quagmire.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:46 PM
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6. No mistake
It was a political decision. Kerry is a politician, ya know?

His decision is a majority position. IOW, the majority of American voters wanted the US to do something.

The position he has to remain firm at -for now- is to let the wanna-be Emperor cook in his own kettle. Afterall, the outcome of of Rummy and Cheney's blunder will result in the end of the most modern version of PNAC.

Just let it ride. All we can do is demand that we pull out, Now! Kerry has a much finer row to hoe. Peace.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:11 PM
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11. Is that your only justification?
That he is a politician? That won't get you any points in a debate. I doubt that would sway the american people.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:50 PM
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8. I find it ironic
when progressives, in the middle of an immediate tragedy, focus on the past.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:05 PM
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10. failure to learn from the past, will lead to more tragedies.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:01 PM
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13. I am waiting for Kerry to say: "Bring the troops home NOW"!
Rather than take a clear position on Iraq, Kerry will do his "I can be a better occupier of Iraq than Bush" impersonation.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:53 PM
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9. He who does not learn from his mistakes will continue to make
them and never gain knowledge.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:12 PM
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12. Flame bait.
You know he hasn't, so why entitle the thread with a question phrased like this? :wtf:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:18 PM
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15. He's waiting to see if they find WMD's errr uhmmm, something?
:shrug:

I am supporting Kerry, but he continually disapoints me. I think he may simply be a cautious politician, which could in the end be a good thing. But, I crave a bold leader who speaks out - even when it's not popular.

In the end, I want a win, and I'll be the first to eat crow if Kerry wins this November.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:24 PM
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16. If he were to do that,
it would almost be like saying all those soldiers died in vain.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:28 PM
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17. I think there is a way to say this without doing so.
;)
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:29 PM
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18. All those soldiers have died in vain
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:42 PM
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21. The unfortunate reality there is
..It's beginning to appear that they DID die in vain. America is no safer than it was, as Iraq was NEVER a threat to this country, and now Iraq is much worse a place. Saddam Hussein wasn't a nice man, but at least he provided stability for the country, as opposed to the civil war that's beginning now. In many ways, it's similar to Yugoslavia under the Iron Curtain. Say what you want about the Commies, but there's one country that was much better off before the fall of communism.

And if I knew the ethnic tensions in Iraq would be similar, you damn well have to believe that John Kerry knew it, when he voted to allow this insanity.
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