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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:28 PM
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Hillary Clinton's RESUME - Objective: Answering the 3:00 a.m. RED Phone

As you can see from my resume, I am applying for the position of answering the Red Phone as Commander-in-Chief from Day One, and I believe that I am most Qualified based on my 35 years of experience.



Tracing Hillary Clinton's '35 Years' of Experience


All Things Considered, January 24, 2008 · When Hillary Clinton makes a campaign appearance, she almost certainly will highlight her experience — 35 years, she says — as one of her qualifications for president.

But Clinton is a little less specific when it comes to describing what exactly she was doing in the years before she became a U.S. senator in 2001.

Suzanne Goldenberg is author of a new book about Clinton, Madam President, and a U.S. correspondent for the British newspaper The Guardian.

Goldenberg says it's difficult to see how Clinton calculates her 35 years of public service, since her fulltime job for many years was working for a corporate law firm in Arkansas.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18391632


After earning her JD from Yale, Clinton worked as a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in DC. In 1974 she failed the DC Bar Exam and decided to move to Arkansas where Bill was running for congress. He did not succeed in this campaign. Both of them took jobs with the Arkansas University, Fayetteville Law School. By 1977, Bill had won the Arkansas Attorney General campaign and Hillary had earned a job with the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock. She continued to be involved politically, urging new laws to recognize children's rights, but her law practice focused on Patent Infringement and Intellectual Property law, though she rarely set foot in a court room. http://doubledemon.newsvine.com/_news/2008/02/06/1282777-obamas-experience-vs-clintons-experience?groupId=1675


Children’s Defense Fund -


Hillary Clinton & the Children's Defense Fund
http://www.peterglenshaw.com/peter_glenshaw_weblog/2008/01/hillary-clinton.html

How Hillary Clinton Betrayed the Children's Defense Fund for Political Gain:
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/034


While Clinton touts her decision to come out of law school and work not for Wall Street but rather for the Children's Defense Fund, the truth is that she spent only a year there. (And then omitted her mentor Marian Wright Edelman from among the 400 others she mentions in the acknowledgemets of her autobiography because Edelman had broken with her when Bill Clinton abolished the federal welfare saftey net in 1996).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-cooper/hillarys-5-million-dump_b_85534.html




She was twice named to the list of “The 100 Most Influential Lawyers in America.” She also represented and later served on the board of Arkansas businesses including TCBY ("Too Good to Be Yoghurt"), and Wal-Mart. As First Lady of Arkansas for twelve years, she chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, Legal Services, and the Children's Defense Fund. Mrs. Clinton wrote a weekly newspaper column entitled "Talking It Over."
http://www.firstladies.org/biographies/firstladies.aspx?biography=43


Wal-Mart


Hillary Clinton and Wal-Mart: A Love Story
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0207-34.htm

Wal-Mart’s First Lady
Hillary’s Past Belies Her Support of Labor

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0021,harkavy,15052,5.html

WalMart Board - 1990





Clinton campaign downplays a large part of her career
By MATT STEARNS
McClatchy-Tribune

WASHINGTON — To hear Hillary Clinton talk, she's spent her entire career putting her Yale Law School degree to work for the common good.

She routinely tells voters that she's "been working to bring positive change to people's lives for 35 years." She told a voter in New Hampshire: "I've spent so much of my life in the nonprofit sector."

The overall portrait is of a lifelong, selfless do-gooder. The whole story is more complicated — and less flattering.
Clinton worked at the Children's Defense Fund for less than a year, and that's the only full-time job in the nonprofit sector she's ever had. She also worked briefly as a law professor.

Clinton spent the bulk of her career — 15 of those 35 years — at one of Arkansas' most prestigious corporate law firms, where she represented big companies and served on corporate boards....
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/5510369.html




Rose Law Firm



Clinton joined Rose in 1976, becoming the venerable firm's first full female partner in 1979, and she continued to work for Rose after husband Bill became governor of Arkansas.

Rose Law Firm focuses primarily on corporate litigation and transactions. She worked primarily on patent infringement and intellectual property litigation, though she did not do much court work. Rose Law Firm is well entrenched in Arkansas' business and political institutions.
http://doubledemon.newsvine.com/_news/2008/02/06/1282777-obamas-experience-vs-clintons-experience?groupId=1675


the Task Force on National Health Care Reform, headed by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton


First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was charged with coming up with a comprehensive plan to provide universal health care for all Americans, which was to be a cornerstone of the administration's first-term agenda.

Hillary Clinton's leading role in this project was unprecedented for a presidential spouse.<11><12> This unusual decision by President Clinton to put his wife in charge of the project has been attributed to several factors, including the President's desire to emphasize his personal commitment to the enterprise.<12>

The First Lady's role in the secret proceedings of the Health Care Task Force also sparked litigation in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, in relation to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA) which requires openness in government. The Clinton White House argued that the Recommendation Clause in Article II of the U.S. Constitution would make it unconstitutional to apply the procedural requirements of FACA to Hillary's participation in the meetings of the Task Force. Some constitutional experts argued to the court that such a legal theory was not supported by the text, history, or structure of the Constitution.<13>Ultimately, Hillary Clinton won the litigation when the D.C. Circuit ruled narrowly that the First Lady of the United States can be deemed a government official (and not a mere private citizen) for purposes of not having to comply with the procedural requirements of FACA.<14>

In 1993, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, along with several other groups, filed a lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and Donna Shalala‎ over closed-door meetings related to the health care plan. The AAPS sued to gain access to the list of members of the task force. Judge Royce C. Lamberth found in favor of the plaintiffs and awarded $285,864 to the AAPS for legal costs; Lamberth also harshly criticized the Clinton administration and Clinton aide Ira Magaziner in his ruling.<15> Subsequently, a federal appeals court overturned the award and the initial findings on the basis that Magaziner and the administration had not acted in bad faith.<16>

Starting on September 28, 1993, Hillary Clinton appeared for several days of testimony before five congressional committees on health care.<9> Opponents of the bill organized against it before it was presented to the Democratic-controlled Congress on November 20, 1993.<9> The bill was a complex proposal running more than 1,000 pages, the core element of which was an enforced mandate for employers to provide health insurance coverage to all of their employees through competitive but closely-regulated health maintenance organizations (HMOs).

The 1994 mid-term election became a "referendum on big government — Hillary Clinton had launched a massive health-care reform plan that wound up strangled by its own red tape."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Clinton_health_care_plan





Ireland




The Facts
Chris Thornton, a political reporter for the Belfast Telegraph, said that Hillary Clinton's visits to northern Ireland contributed to the "mood music" that made an eventual settlement possible, but were hardly key to reaching an agreement. "Would we have reached a settlement without that kind of stuff? Yes. Would we have got one without the intervention of Bill Clinton and George Mitchell? No."

Hillary is making a lot more of her Northern Ireland role on the campaign trail than she did in her memoir "Living History." As the Boston Globe recently noted, her stories of bringing Protestant and Catholic women together have become more dramatic with each retelling. The claim that she brought Catholics and Protestants together "for the first time" seems dubious. This would not be the first time that she has mixed up her chronology.

The Pinocchio Test
Hillary Clinton seems to be overstating her significance as a catalyst in the Northern Ireland peace process, which was more symbolic than substantive. On the other hand, she did play a helpful role at the margins, by encouraging organizations like Vital Voices, a women's group that takes a stand against extremism. One Pinocchio for exaggeration.


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/01/clinton_and_northern_ireland.html






China


During a 1995 visit to Beijing, at a time when her husband's administration was trying to press China on human rights, Sen. Clinton made a speech condemning abuses.


Kosovo


In May of 1999, she was in Macedonia visiting refugee camps near the Kosovo border and meeting with Macedonia's president and prime minister.

Sources with knowledge of her visit say she discussed the refugees' plight with those leaders. It's not clear how much she helped since CNN reported at the time that Macedonia reopened its border to Kosovar refugees before Clinton's visit.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/06/clinton.foreign.fact/




Senator From New York


Upon entering the United States Senate, Clinton maintained a low public profile, built relationships with senators from both parties and forged alliances with religiously-inclined senators by becoming a regular participant in the Senate Prayer Breakfast.

Clinton has served on five Senate committees: Committee on Budget (2001–2002), Committee on Armed Services (since 2003), Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001),<207> Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (since 2001) and Special Committee on Aging.
She is also a Commissioner of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (since 2001).


Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, Clinton sought to obtain funding for the recovery efforts in New York City and security improvements in her state. Working with New York's senior senator, Charles Schumer, she was instrumental in quickly securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment. She subsequently took a leading role in investigating the health issues faced by 9/11 first responders.

Clinton voted for the USA Patriot Act in October 2001. In 2005, when the act was up for renewal, she worked to address some of the civil liberties concerns with it, before voting in favor of a compromise renewed act in March 2006 that gained large majority support.

Clinton strongly supported the 2001 U.S. military action in Afghanistan, saying it was a chance to combat terrorism while improving the lives of Afghan women who suffered under the Taliban government.

Clinton voted in favor of the October 2002 Iraq War Resolution.

In September 2007 she voted in favor of a Senate resolution calling on the State Department to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps "a foreign terrorist organization", which passed 76-22.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton



she opposes the international treaty to ban land mines.

She voted against the Feinstein-Leahy amendment last September restricting U.S. exports of cluster bombs to countries that use them against civilian-populated areas.

She opposes restrictions on U.S. arms transfers and police training to governments that engage in gross and systematic human rights abuses, such as Egypt, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Israel, Pakistan, Cameroon and Chad, to name only a few.

She has challenged the credibility of Amnesty International and other human rights groups that criticize policies of the United States and its allies.
Mrs. Clinton has been one of the Senate’s most outspoken critics of the United Nations, even serving as the featured speaker at rallies outside U.N. headquarters in July 2004 and last summer to denounce the world body.

She was one of the most prominent critics of the International Court of Justice for its landmark 2004 advisory ruling that the Fourth Geneva Conventions on the Laws of War is legally binding on all signatory nations.

She condemned the United Nations’ judicial arm for challenging the legality of Israel’s separation barrier in the occupied West Bank and sponsored a Senate resolution “urging no further action by the United Nations to delay or prevent the construction of the security fence.”

Mrs. Clinton has shown little regard for the danger from proliferation of nuclear weapons, not only opposing the enforcement of U.N. Security Council resolutions challenging Pakistan, Israel and India’s nuclear weapons programs but supporting the delivery of nuclear-capable missiles and jet fighters to these countries. This past fall she voted to suspend important restrictions on U.S. nuclear cooperation with countries that violate the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

At the same time, she insists that the prospect of Iran’s developing nuclear weapons “must be unacceptable to the entire world,” since challenging the nuclear monopoly of the United States and its allies in the region would somehow “shake the foundation of global security to its very core.”

She accused the Bush administration of not taking the threat of a nuclear Iran seriously enough, criticized the administration for allowing European nations to take the lead in pursuing a diplomatic solution and insisted that the United States should make it clear that military options were still being actively considered.
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0309-23.htm


Now that you have reviewed my resume, please contact me, as I am the only, only one applying who doesn't need on the job training, cause I have all of the answers already.

I look forward to hearing from you.














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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:30 PM
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1. Dear Mrs. Clinton, I regret to inform you that your willingness to allow children
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 09:31 PM by Bread and Circus
to die from clusterbombs in order to "further" your political career disallows you from any further consideration of leader of the free world.

Sincerely,

Those That Care About Innocent Children.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:35 PM
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4. But, but, but.......
You don't understand!

Please see my resume.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:46 PM
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7. Exactly. Those of us who support HIllary on this board and in
all of those voting booths hate children and long for them to be brutally murdered.

You are a credit to the Obama campaign. Your logic is keen.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:53 PM
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10. No, most of you are just uninformed.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:56 PM
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11. Do you have her reasoning as to why she voted against the Cluster Bomb ban
in Civilian areas? If so, please elaborate, instead of criticizing and taking offense.

Here are my sources:

Clinton, Obama, and Cluster Bombs
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rees/clinton-obama-and-clust_b_84811.html


Cluster bombs are controversial due to the ongoing danger to civilians, especially children, long after the battle has ended and peace treaties are signed.

These cluster bombs (many actually look like a kid's toy) continue to lay around for years after a war has ended. Laying in wait to maim or kill innocent civilians....including women and children.

http://mosquito-blog.blogspot.com/2008/02/hillary-clinton-sells-out-children.html

1. What are cluster bombs?
Cluster bombs—more technically called cluster munitions—open in mid-air
and spew hundreds of small bomblets about the size of a soda can over a wide
area. Each of these sub-munitions is supposed to detonate when it hits the ground,
sending out deadly shrapnel. A typical cluster bomb, which contains between dozens
and hundreds of bomblets, can kill or injure anyone in an area the size of one or
two football fields. Cluster bombs are delivered by artillery or aircraft.


2. Why is FCNL concerned about them?
These weapons are designed to be used on a battlefield, against concentrations
of soldiers or armored vehicles, but are in fact often used in civilian areas. This use
could violate international humanitarian law’s prohibition on indiscriminate attacks.
In addition, many of the bomblets—between 5 to 25 percent or more—do not
explode as intended, becoming de facto landmines for many years to come.
Because of these weapons’ double impact – causing casualties during a conflict
and long after the conflict has subsided – cluster munitions are one of the most
hazardous weapons to civilians used in wars today. Recent estimates suggest
that 98 percent of cluster bomb casualties are civilians, many of them children.
See a report from Handicap International for more details (PDF).


3. How does the Cluster Munitions Civilian Protection Act (S. 594) help?This common-sense bill would
a. prevent the U.S. military from using cluster bombs in civilian-populated areas;

b. prevent the export of cluster bombs for use in civilian-populated areas; and,

c. restrict all U.S. use and exports of cluster bombs except those that have a very
low (1 percent or lower) dud rate. The dud rate describes what fraction of bomblets
failed to explode. While it may sound like the dud rate requirement provides a
technical loophole, the bill is a de facto ban on cluster bomb use and export
because no cluster bombs in the U.S. arsenal meet this requirement.

4. Why worry about U.S. export of cluster bombs?
The United States has exported or transferred cluster munitions to at least 29
other states. See a map of these states. U.S.-produced cluster bombs
have been used most recently by Israel during their conflict with Hezbollah fighters
in Lebanon in 2006. The most recent reports indicate that, not only were 285 people
killed by cluster bombs during conflict, but an additional 250 casualties in Lebanon
have been caused by unexploded cluster bombs since conflict ended. An estimated
one million unexploded cluster bombs continue to pose a threat to civilians in
Lebanon. U.S.-produced cluster bombs have also reportedly been used by Moroccan
forces in Western Sahara and possibly by Colombian forces in Colombia.


5. Why worry about U.S. use of cluster bombs?
Since World War II, U.S. armed forces have fired cluster bombs in Afghanistan,
Cambodia, Iraq, Kuwait, Laos, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam, and the former Yugoslavia. In
Laos alone, thousands of casualties have occurred while Laotians are attempting to
plow their land or while children are playing. In Iraq, there have been more than 4,000
casualties and over half of them have been children since the beginning of the first Gulf War.


6. But doesn’t the military need cluster bombs?
No. Cluster bombs were designed to attack large vehicle and troop formations. They
were not designed for the type of insurgent-based conflicts we see today.
They simply aren’t precise enough to be useful in modern warfare. Many cluster
bombs in stockpiles are also nearing the end of their storage life and will become
dangerous to use.

Cluster bomb use can also be counter-productive. Duds both constrain and endanger
troops on the ground. Reports after the Gulf War, Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq
cite the negative impact of cluster bombs on both friendly forces and peacekeepers.

In counter-insurgencies, stiff restrictions on cluster bombs would, if anything, help the
effort of U.S. commanders. Since counter-insurgency is an effort to win hearts and
minds, a commander who even considers a resort to cluster bombs in a built-up
area (where insurgent meets counter-insurgent in the contest to control or at least
influence the population’s allegiance) has already lost the battle and probably the “war.”
Don't believe us? Members of the military agree.


7. Aren’t there international rules outlawing the use of these weapons?
No. Although other weapons with indiscriminate effects, such as landmines and
firebombs, are subject to specific rules limiting their use in war, no international treaty
specifically restricts the use of cluster munitions. The International Committee of the
Red Cross and former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan recently called for
banning the use of cluster bombs in populated areas. Their calls reflect a growing
international movement to reduce the threat these weapons pose to civilians. This
international consensus has provided momentum for the Oslo Process to establish a
treaty banning cluster bombs. Eighty-three countries are part of the treaty negotiation
process as of November 2007 but, unfortunately, the U.S. continues to oppose this
initiative. Find out more about the Oslo Process.
http://www.fcnl.org/weapons/clusterlanding/questions_answers.htm#1


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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:43 PM
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26. So, you are saying that you agree with Hillary's support of cluster bombs? nt
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:34 PM
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2. Can't wait for the press to focus on her so called experience too.
We've been thinking about it and couldn't really come up with 35 yrs worth. So reading your posts makes me even more doubtful of her so called "experience". Thanks.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:10 PM
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17. But will they now, or wait till she's finagle the nomination away from Barack.....
and is up against McCain in the GE? And when they totally take her apart, what will she do?
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:54 AM
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47. She will do what bush did...redirect the attention to something else.
That is what they do. I'm just seeing so much of the similarities between her tactics and that of bush's circa 2004
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:35 PM
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3. This is all very interesting.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 09:36 PM by madaboutharry
I didn't know that her time with The Children's Defense Fund was less than a year.

The truth is that nothing really prepares one for the presidency, no matter what kind of experience they have had. I think a lot of it comes down to personality and character. And also good advisors. All I can say now is that this primary situation has become distasteful and upsetting.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:39 PM
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5. You should read those articles on her history with the Children's Defense Fund.....
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 09:41 PM by FrenchieCat
She did sit on the board for the organization (although this was not "a job" per se) for quite a few years there, but the ending left a bad taste in the mouth of her mentor......due to the way that children were treated without regard in the Welfare Reform Act enacted by the Clinton administration.

Also, At Rose Law Firm, one of her partner was Vince Foster. In fact, of the three partners that followed her to the White House from Rose Law Firm, only 1 actually made it back to Arkansas. The Law Firm itself was dragged through the mud and has never been the same since.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:13 PM
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33. When was it she defend the rapist of the 12 yr old girl?
If any women or man read what she did, how can they vote for her.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:41 PM
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6. But will the media call her on this BS?
Her "victimhood" campaign seemed to effectively silence them for the past two weeks. The Clintonistas complain that Obama has gotten a break but Jesus, has anyone ever gotten a bigger break from the press than Hillary in this election? It's time to DEMAND they cover this shit and tell the truth about this woman and her stunning lack of experience and her overwhelming sense of entitlement and quest for power.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:47 PM
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8. I think that it is up to us.
Obama has been called an empty suit and his experience has not really been reviewed by the media to any great extent....which has been a real diservice to his candidacy. In Hillary's case, not detailing her 35 years of experience, has been a big bonus for her.

And I don't believe that Hillary was treated harshly by the press for any real length of time.

Today, when the media was asking about her tax returns, her surrogates were allowed to imply that they would be released on 4/15/08 as though that is when they were due. As well all know, the returns being requested are not her 2007 returns. But somehow, the media lets it slide.

More media bias, is the fact that they aren't going to clear up the fact that her campaign was calling Canadian Embassy in reference to the NAFTA "Grain of Salt" campaign that she was conducting. Lou Dobbs had a Canadian official on his show, and they only talked about the controversy of the leaking of the memo, never the fact that the memo distorted the Obama Advisor's words.

In addition, they are in full force pushing for a Michigan and Florida "something"....calling it breaking news.

No, certainly, the media is and has always been on the Clinton side.....except for maybe 2 weeks, max.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:56 PM
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29. I'm all over it.
But I'm not media. They need to hear from us in a BIG way. I keep encouraging everyone I know who has contacts in the media to use them. And if nothing else, hell, write letters to the editor of your local newspaper. Testify!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:10 PM
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31. Just kick and rec.....
where do you think the lazy media comes and gets their shit from? It's like vultures to a bird's nest here.


They pick and choose though. They won't just report the truth.....just the truth that they want to report.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:47 PM
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9. the only woman on Walmart's board at that time.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:56 PM
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13. And First Lady of Arkansas!
About that! :party:

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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:57 PM
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14. so? she was a corporate lackey
and did nothing on the board besides sing the "we are WalMart" song... what is your point?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:01 PM
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15. She tried to encourage Wal-Mart to hire more women for management
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:15 PM by FrenchieCat
but she was unsuccessful.

She didn't address the Union aspect of Wal-Mart.

She was served for 3 years.

She loved the "made in USA" campaign and promoted it, but later said she didn't know about the children sweatshops in Bangladesh which was where Wal-Mart purchased a lot of its merchandise.

How's that for Ready on Day one preparedness!

Here is an ABC video News Report of her serving on the board of Wal-Mart -
Watch it and weep! Anyone watching this who is a Union member supporting Hillary Clinton has got to feel conflicted....because she was no friend of labor, that's for sure!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtdwcbqeE5s

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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:29 AM
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42. "I didn't know" how often we hear that from HC
Amazing. I am waiting for one of the tv shows to have Rick Lazio on telling how she act like Ken Starr to get him to release his tax forms when he ran against her. Hypocrite
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:56 PM
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12. There you go again... Using Facts! Unfair!
Don't you know as an Obama supporter you are only allowed to use pure emotion of the cult?!?

How DARE YOU challenge Mrs. Clinton using FACTS!!?!!! it is a disgracefull technique!

****SARCASM****
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:04 PM
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16. Where are the Hillary Supporters? I'm sure that I'm missing something!
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:10 PM
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18. She's also a pro Commodities Trader ;)
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ShaWee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:15 PM
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19. Why does everyone make such a big deal out of experience in the first place?
It's not like working in the mall where experience alone might make you the top dog.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:18 PM
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20. She makes a big deal out of it....and the media has been playing along
since day one.

That's a problem.

as her entire candidacy rests upon it.

She is a fraud, based on what she's done versus what she says.

I don't need a fraud sitting in my White House.

She has no more experience than anybody running to answer that red phone.

She gets the nomination, and we'll be feeling like Ohio; punked....after we lose.
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lmbradford Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:36 PM
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23. because....
Laura Bush should run for senate in a couple of years and then after her term in up, she will have even more qualifications than HRC because she was first lady during a time of war.

She is gonna be a formidable opponent.

snark/

I fail to see this experience.....call me crazy.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:23 PM
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21. Hillary's back door Health Care Policy
allowed Cheney to get away with the same thing on energy, with no oversight, and still to this day, do we know who attended those meetings
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:38 PM
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24. We are paying for a lot of what the Clinton administration did.....
See 1996 Telecommunications Act...and then think of Fox calling the 2000 election for Bush. :cry:



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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:26 PM
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22. From the ease with which hilary lies..she's
had 35 years experience in lying..or more.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:41 PM
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25. There is a certain flare that she has when she does it, hey?
I've noticed that.


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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:48 PM
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27. A First Lady with ZERO security clearance, no access to PDBs, no NSA clearance...
...and we're supposed to somehow think that tinkling teacups in 80 countries with the wives if leaders in the ball room at the table where a band is playing too loud and booze is being served is "foreign policy experience"?

The Turncoat is a joke.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:54 PM
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28. According to her photo-op....it's all about "perception".......
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:59 PM
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30. Great Post, I have a question when you have time
Bill Clinton has been bragging about how he put Hillary in charge of Arkansas education. Well here in Hawaii Hillary and her team attacked the school Obama went to and it really back fired. Some dems here and not right wing people told me something as they were mad about Bill's comment and her attack on his school.

They said that Hawaii was always in 50th and last place in the USA in education. But after Bill put her in charge she took Hawaii out of 50th with driving down Arkansas. I have posted this several times and I am trying to find out how to check it out. Do you know?

Also, once you have a resume, you do reference checks.

You note first unlike Obama she failed her bar exam. Not in the brightest group like Obama.

What do you think Rose Law Firm would honestly say about her Job Performance?

Check out what she mess up with education and also we know what a mess she made of Health care.

Here is a great tip to follow in interviewing people and try it. Looks for STARS.

That stands for finding a Situation or Task they initiated, an Action they took, and Result they got not others. Check her record and you will find few STARS. For anyone hiring people try this or if your trying to get a job, find you STARS and share them.

Great Post.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:12 PM
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32. That's true! Hillary's record on Education reform in Arkansas....
didn't yield any positive results. Appears to have set things back instead.

Just like Health care as First Lady.

About that!
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:18 PM
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37. Mahalo for the info and recommend it
I am new on here but have watch for years and decided when skinner said we may not be able to get on unless we register, I did and I have really learned a lot from you. Keep it coming.

I am for Obama and if he does become President, I hope all of us can make sure he does not get there and turn out like the rest. I remember hearing all the high hopes of they young repubs led by Newt and then they became like the rest of them and even more crooked.

I really think Obama can change things and hope he will come here to Hawaii and get rid of the old bunch here and get some new blood in. They are worried as they saw how many he got out.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:25 PM
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39. Aloha and
Welcome to you!

Glad to have you here! :hi:

and yes....we desperately need change.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:48 AM
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43. FrenchieCat great post
I have to comment on the Health care, someone had posted the 700 Club interview.
Hillary's comment about Health care that it is her TOP PRIORITY
Hillary has played her cards and proved to me that she is Bush cloned
Bush came into to office with an agenda to go after Saddam, because he threatened Poppy, (some of us didn't realize it was his agenda at the time) and we all know the outcome of that.
Hillary was shunned by the Repugs in the 90's they were not going to let a Dem. first lady have any kind of policy, no matter what.
Well she is going to show those Repugs, come Hell or the Kitchen sink she is going to have HER health care policy, or be Damned.
BUSH CLONED
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:16 PM
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34. "Um. Ya know about that experience thingy?"
Nevermind!"

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:16 PM
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35. "Hillary is NUTS"
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:16 PM
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36. Thank you for your application but we have chosen a candidate that better matches our needs.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 11:17 PM by AZBlue



FrenchieCat - fantastic post, great compilation, good work!!! Am bookmarking for future reference.



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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:28 PM
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41. Hahahahah!
At least he passed the bar the first time....and graduated Magna Cum Laude!
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:20 PM
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38. Great stuff Frenchie!
The Obama team needs to hire you. They don't seem to have the stomach to take down Clinton or deal with the press.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:27 PM
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40. Tell them to
Cwall me!

I'm ready.

Hell! I'll work for Free! :)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:41 AM
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44. Kicking myself!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:30 AM
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45. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:40 AM
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46. Thanks for the info. Recommend. nt
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:56 AM
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48. Ouch. Harsh, but there's definitely an air of truth to it. n/t
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:10 AM
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49. whoa... I don't seen ANY Hillary supporters on this thread. They don't dare tread.
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