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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 12:53 AM Original message |
OH MY! FACT CHECK HAS POSTED A DOCTORED VIDEO OF CLINTON'S "TRUE" AD |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Thu Mar-06-08 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
1. Recommended |
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moobu2
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Thu Mar-06-08 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. Looks like everything the same darkness to me. |
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HCE SuiGeneris
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You had better seek an optometrist. |
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anigbrowl
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. It might look that way on a laptop, especially on battery power. |
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JimGinPA
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Yeah, Who Could Think Darkening A Black Man's Face In An Attack Ad Would Be Offensive To Anyone? |
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seabeyond
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. nt |
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anigbrowl
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
4. Email fact check |
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HCE SuiGeneris
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. You're all wrong? If you have explained all, please point me to the link. |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
26. I have notified both Kos and Fact Check. We'll see who responds. |
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hey560
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
5. Kick. |
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City Lights
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
6. I hope you notify them of your findings! |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
72. Thanks. I notified both Kos and Fact Check. Kos has responded. No Comment from Fact Check. Yet. |
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blogslut
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
9. your screen grabs are different widths |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. No, they are not. They are fit to the movie size, both are 640x480. The left video |
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blogslut
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. The images themselves are the same width |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. No, the player is the same size in both left and right. download the movies yourself |
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blogslut
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Well, it wasn't the players themselves |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Fair point. I've edited the post so you can see the images top/bottom as well. |
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Ichingcarpenter
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
11. The concluding summation paragraph in Fact Check was revealing also |
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blogslut
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Here's what I think happened |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. So, why distort the size of his face then? To stretch it to be wider than it is? |
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blogslut
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Her video was formatted to wide-screen |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Clinton's Video is HOW IT AIRED AND PLAYS on a normal T.V. (same aspect ratio) |
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blogslut
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Nooo |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. You aren't listening: Fact Check DOCTORED The Video. The same top/bottom black bars are on it. |
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seabeyond
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. just as plausible, but.... without them owning up to what they did, we question and HRC supporters |
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barack the house
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
13. Hillary will bring honesty and integrity to the Whitehouse, erm maybe erm hmmm.... |
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Hieronymus
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
14. MSNBC revealed that there's no way Hillary can catch up to Obama's .... |
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JanusAscending
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Make that 70% |
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FlyingSquirrel
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
21. One thing about all this.. |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Not when I watch them playing Side-by-Side on my LCD. They Look COMPLETELY DIFFERENT |
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FlyingSquirrel
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I didn't look at the fact check one... If they altered Clinton's, then that's |
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Ichingcarpenter
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Wired News did their own analysis |
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moobu2
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. The first thing done when making political attack ad |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. you are totally bogus. |
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Milo_Bloom
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
31. There is no doubt they darkened the video... |
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moobu2
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I was watching the history channel a few weeks ago |
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FlyingSquirrel
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I would love to have seen those vicious attack ads in George Washigton's day |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. If it's just innocent attack ad fun, WHY EDIT THE VIDEO TO MAKE IT LOOK AS IF IT WASN'T DARKENED?! |
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moobu2
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Its an attack ad |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. You aren't Answering the question: WHY DOCTOR IT TO LOOK LIKE THEY DIDN'T?! |
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Milo_Bloom
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Thu Mar-06-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
70. The "Everybody does it" defense. |
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guruoo
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
41. It's starting to look like this was a made up issue from the very beginning |
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Nick Lento
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Thu Mar-06-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
80. Made Up? Etc... |
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guruoo
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Fri Mar-07-08 03:33 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Yes. Made up... |
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EmperorHasNoClothes
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
42. et tu, FactCheck? |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
43. Kicking for the morning crew. |
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Schema Thing
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Thu Mar-06-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
44. Frankly, his skin looks unaturaly lightened in the lighter version. Where I |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You missed the point. WHY WOULD FactCheck DOCTOR THE ORIGINAL VIDEO? |
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bigtree
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I don't think Fact Check did any thing of the sort. I think you've gone over the deep end |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. ! |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. You wild-eyed hillary supporters are sounding more like Bush's 19% every day. |
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LeftCoast
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Ad hominem |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. He's ended the debate with insults and needs to be made aware of his own insanity |
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bigtree
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. you need to calm down. I'm just someone who thinks you're argument is full of it. |
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bigtree
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. there it is, the accusation of republicanism |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Your last refuge is to ignore the facts. That's just like the Bush 19%. Good luck with that. |
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bigtree
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. now you've gone and hurt my feelings |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. I'm sorry bigtree, I truly am. |
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Schema Thing
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Thu Mar-06-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. I didn't miss the point, I just think your full of yourself and hyped up on your pet theory |
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bigtree
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
46. the bottom one looks SLIGHTLY darker, but more realistic. The others have highlights |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. You are completely Blind not to mention AVOIDING the POINT. Why Would FactCheck DOCTOR it at ALL? |
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bigtree
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. go holler at someone who gives a shit. I think this is completely ignorant. |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. If you don't give a shit, then why are you spamming this thread? |
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bigtree
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. spamming? heh. If I agreed with you I'd be welcome. |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Well, I will thank you for kicking the post so much. Thanks! |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
49. adjust your meds! and here it is again>>>>always an Obama peep playing the race card |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Take off your blinders. |
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Thu Mar-06-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #49 |
66. Fact check says the ad is darker, but they don't think it's race motivated |
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
61. Fact check says the ad is darker, but they don't think it's race motivated |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. What I don't get is why they would Change the original? Their whole article is suspect now. |
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Thu Mar-06-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. The fact check article is bullshit. |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I agree. But they didn't just write a b.s. story, they tried to COVER IT UP by DOCTORING the video. |
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Thu Mar-06-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I'm suuuure it was just an honest mistake. |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. I don't recall if Cheney was pushing it then, but they sure have revealed themselves |
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Thu Mar-06-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. he tried but he got the url wrong |
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HughMoran
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Thu Mar-06-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
74. The one on the right looks better. The other looks compressed and washed out |
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IndyOp
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
76. Factcheck replies directly to Berni_McCoy... |
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berni_mccoy
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. My response is here: |
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OzarkDem
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
78. More Obama-myths busted |
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Thu Mar-06-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
79. The first time I uploaded a video to youtube |
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berni_mccoy
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Fri Mar-07-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. The original Clinton Video is stretched in comparison to the MSNBC digital feed. |
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Fri Mar-07-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
82. They admit in the article that the video WAS darkened |
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