A Gore-Obama ticket at the convention would be the ultimate outcome.

[seafan]

This is merely my opinion.


Mrs. Clinton is showing us beyond the shadow of doubt that she intends to take this to the convention floor, regardless of her opponent's lead in pledged delegates, his lead in the popular vote and his lead in number of states he has won.
It is a very ugly turn of events for our party. Her campaign's choice to take this vindictive, self-serving approach also diminishes Mrs. Clinton's standing as a Senator from NY.


But most critically, Clinton's actions guarantee a bitter, protracted and expensive fight over superdelegates' loyalty and threaten to splinter the Democratic Party, notwithstanding the powder kegs called Florida and Michigan.


The radical right uses Hillary Clinton as a battering ram against our Party.

Limbaugh ramps up his 'vote Hillary' campaign because 'nobody hates Obama yet', March 4, 2008


Here's the plan, according to conservative radio show giant Rush Limbaugh:

"Vote Hillary!"

"The strategy is to continue the chaos in this party," Limbaugh said on his show yesterday, adding to the pitch he made Friday on Fox News Channel. "Look, there's a reason for this. Our side isn't going to do this. Obama needs to be bloodied up. Look, half the country already hates Hillary. That's good. But nobody hates Obama yet. Hillary is going to be the one to have to bloody him up politically because our side isn't going to do it. Mark my words. It's about winning, folks!"

And John McCain waits, just like a spider.




Mrs. Clinton is a weak candidate against McCain. She cannot distinguish herself from McCain/Bush in her Iraq War vote, her Patriot Act vote or her vote to declare Iran's Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. She cannot separate herself from McCain on the iron grip that corporate lobbyists have on her.
She cannot separate herself on her approval of NAFTA when her husband signed it into law. Ross Perot was right. NAFTA is the giant sucking sound of our jobs permanently leaving this country. What happened, Ohio?


To use the old adage... why vote for Republican Lite when you can vote for The Maverick?


Instead of telling us how she will lead us out of this colossal Bush destructiveness, she, instead, insists on incinerating her opponents, feeding a raw ambition arising from a sense of entitlement to the office the presidency, and fueled by the win-at-all-costs of her conservative DLC roots.


We already know the Republican battle we face. Now we see the more immediate battle, which is the bloody onslaught of the last throes of the DLC. This is why she fights so ruthlessly against Obama.



Obama represents the people in a way she, steeped in the DLC, will never genuinely master.




I continue to support Albert Gore in a presidential run, but until then, Obama is the best candidate to address the serious trouble that we face now in this country.


Howard Dean, it's time to plan primaries/caucuses for Florida and Michigan.

[ClayZ]

1. Yeah! K and R

[MelissaB]

2. I'd love to see it, but what are the changes of this happening? n/t

[Phillycat]

3. Suitcases full of diamonds for everyone!

Meanwhile, back here in the real world...

[NC_Nurse]

5. LOL!

Thanks for the laugh. I need it! :hi:

[RBInMaine]

4. ANOTHER FANTASYLAND POST.

Why such a crazy post. Gore's not running. It's been in a few papers.
This WILL NOT HAPPEN. Please get into reality.

[SharonRB]

6. My preferredd outcome, too, but I doubt it will happen

Gore/Obama is my dream ticket, but absent that, I really want Obama at this point.

I also think we here in Michigan and those in Florida should have caucuses in June or something. If not, we shouldn't be seated. Our state party disenfranchised us and their gamble failed miserably. I hate to say it, but if we don't get a valid vote, we don't deserve to be seated. We broke the rules and we need to pay the consequences.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. That's Why Her Base Is Comprised Of The Most Vulnerable Members Of Society

"Obama represents the people in a way she, steeped in the DLC, will never genuinely master."

Hillary's base-

Working class voters

Single females

Older voters

Latinos

GLBT members

[SharonRB]

8. I hate being lumped in with "older voters"

I'm 58 and female, and not all of us support Hillary. In fact, I know hardly anyone personally who does.

[seafan]

11. Because of her judgment to give Bush a green light to invade Iraq,

many family members of these groups are in their home towns, lying in caskets in the ground.

[onehandle]

9. I'd back that. nt

[speedoo]

10. That's my dream.

It probably would never happen, unfortunately.

[seafan]

12. Clinton's early NAFTA support shielded from Ohioans. Instead, a calculated slam against Obama

...on the eve of the Ohio/Texas/Rhode Island/Vermont primaries.


Canada Govt Probes Obama Leak, March 4, 2008, 10:37 PM

TORONTO -- Canada's conservative government said Tuesday it was investigating the leak of a memo that suggested Barack Obama's harsh words about the North American Free Trade Agreement were for political show.

The memo circulated within the government and obtained by The Associated Press said Obama's senior economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee, discussed the debate over free trade in the Democratic presidential primary campaign with Canadian officials in Chicago.
"The primary campaign has been necessarily domestically focused, particularly in the Midwest, and that much of the rhetoric that may be perceived to be protectionist is more reflective of political maneuvering than policy," Goolsbee was quoted as saying in the memo.
Goolsbee said his comments were misinterpreted, and Obama denied offering the Canadians any such ideas. "Nobody reached out to the Canadians to try to assure them of anything," Obama told reporters Monday in Carrollton, Texas.

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Tuesday called the memo's leak "completely unacceptable," and vowed his government would find out who was responsible.
"The Canadian Embassy in Washington expressed it's apologies regarding the leaking of this information," Harper said in Parliament. "The government is trying to find who's responsible for this information being made public."
Harper has disputed the suggestion that his government was trying to complicate Obama's chances or favor Republican Sen. John McCain, who strongly supports NAFTA.
Both Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton said last week they would use the threat of pulling out of NAFTA to persuade Canada and Mexico to negotiate more protections for workers and the environment in the agreement.

Clinton said Monday that Obama's campaign had given the Canadians "the old wink-wink."

This acerbic description of last night's Ohio anomaly cuts to the chase.

.....

The press is blaring tidings of a great Clinton comeback in Ohio and Texas last night, both states in which she had twenty point leads in late February. But in terms of delegates Obama is ahead by what appears to be an insurmountable margin. The only way Hillary Clinton can win the nomination is to savage Obama with calumnies, bloodying him to a point where the Clintons can turn make the case to the super delegates in the convention that in a race against McCain Obama has already been fatally wounded.

It's a course to which the Clinton campaign is now totally committed, exactly along the lines advocated by Mark Penn, Hillary's pollster and chief strategist. Penn's policy has been the antithesis of any grand coalition of the kind put together by Roosevelt in the 1930s. Already in south Carolina the Clinton campaign was willing to throw the black vote overboard. In Texas Clinton deliberately exploited Hispanic-black animosities.

Obama has plenty to be rueful about. He managed the astounding feat of being on the defensive in Ohio about trade, at the hands of a Clinton. The history of the late 1980s and 1990s was the Clintons at the head of the Democratic Leadership Council, arguing that the free trade agreements were essential to America's future. Ohio, devastated by job flight was treated to the spectacle of the Obama campaign failing on this very issue, because Obama shrank from making the full case against what Clinton did to working people in the 1990s. He could have slaughtered the Clinton record on Hillary's disastrous effort at health care reform, on the trade agreements, on the welfare bill, on the well- documented fact that the people who did well in the Clinton era were the rich. He was too innately cautious to play the populist card and he paid the price.

.....

Obama was blindsided by The Hit And Run Lie Machine at the eleventh hour.


These are the tactics of cowards who cannot succeed on their own merits.