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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:02 PM
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Why Hillary's remarks on McCain are an endorsement
Let's remind ourselves of the exact words, for accuracy:

"I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say. He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."

Sure, she didn't say the formula 'I-endorse-John-McCain-for-President'.

But if Obama is the nominee, as I believe he will be, that quote of Hillary's will be gleefully repeated by Republicans from now until November, and indeed afterwards. Anytime a freeper needs some anti-Obama flamebait, on this or any other board, they'll quote it again, and again.

It's a cheap dismissal of Obama, that unfavorably comapres him to John McCain and belittles Obama's record and achievements. If she were simply contrasting herself and Obama, I would find it a tacky put-down, but but I'd shrug it off as campaign rhetoric. She's had a string of losses, and in most situations like that politicians go negative on their opponents.

But including John McCain in the comment is basically handing the stick to bash Obama with. Some of you will try to argue otherwise, but every time you see those words repeated by the GOPer between now and November you'll have Hillary to thank.

As far as I'm concerned, it's concern trolling by Hillary herself. Opponents of Obama will cite Rezko: but that trial will be over in a month or two and there won't be any explosive revelations. All the trolling about it up to now has depended on the idea that there MIGHT be some fireworks. Havin researched it, I'm pretty confident there won't be. And having it dragged through the press now (rather than right before the GE) means the GOP won't be able to use it either: if they bring up the subject, they can just be told 'look at the court transcript'.

Larry Sinclair? Only going to come up in the darkest recesses of conservative blogs. Even freepers are embarrassed by the continuing life given to this rumor, when it's nothing more than an obvious shakedown attempt (that has been definitively brought to a close by not one, but 2 polygraph tests).

And so on. But a quote from Hillary for the GOPers to beat a nominated Obama with - lovely. Not only will they enjoy bashing Obama, but they'll enjoy using Hillary's own words to hurt the Democratic party.

Thanks a lot, Hillary.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:04 PM
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1. And if Hillary is the nominee
McCain will use those words against her. He has more 'experience' than she does. If it's an issue that she feels she can use to trash Obama, then she shouldn't be at all surprised when it is used against her.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:12 PM
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2. The blessing and the curse of this remark
is that REAL Republicans would be MUCH less inclined to vote for McCain with a Hillary endorsement.

For them it's the equivalent of Dick Cheney backing one of our Democratic candidates.

"Hell, if Dick Cheney thinks he's cool, there must be something REALLY horrible about him!"

Ya know?
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:01 PM
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7. If it's Hillary vs McCain, Ralph Nader may do very well.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:15 PM
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3. Are you dim?
It is a slam on Obama's empty rhetoric, not an endorsement of McCain? You people are off your rockers today.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:18 PM
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4. When she used Mccains NAME as a better choice, she endorsed him. she betrayed millions of dems.
and is a TRAITOR
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:51 PM
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12. Ahh, "traitor". A favorite slur of the free republic folk
Little O-Bots are starting to look more and more like FReeper subversives by the day.

Hillary Clinton did not endorse John McCain. Stop being a flaming retard.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:23 PM
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5. Try reading the OP again and paying attention this time
I addressed that specific point but I guess you missed it. If you still can't see it, that's not my problem. As far as I'm concerned, you guys are the ones off your rockers. I really hope the electorate hands Hillary her ass today, though I'm not going to get my hopes up - at this point I suspect she'll try to carry on even if she gets 0% of the vote.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:27 PM
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6. excuse please but those words cannot be used against hrc when
she goes after mccain in november.....that's the problem with you obama folks you disregard the obvious....
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:09 PM
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9. yes, but barring a political miracle, she won't be up against McCain
in November. She'll be in the Senate. The odds of her winning the nomination, unless she does spectacularly well today, are zero. She cannot catch him in pledged delegates and the SDs are making it clear that they'll be going with the candidate with the most pledged delegates.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:05 PM
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8. She should retract this remark or it will remain on her permanent record.
And she won't like hearing it yelled at her for the next month at every campaign stop she makes.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:36 PM
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10. I don't see how it could be interpreted any other way. Not good.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:54 PM
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11. Yes, she has shown true wisdom in her statements. That's what I want from my nominee.
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