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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:16 PM
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HIllary Clinton will become the nominee. I relaized today that she
only has to deflate the hopes and aspirations of a relatively small subset of people who are for Obama. She doesn't need to sow the seeds of despair in everyone. Rather, just enough people to prevent Obama the nomination.

I believe she can do it. She has the people and the resources to continue the sliming through Pennsylvania. I suspect that "now the fun really begins", and that means President McCain. Get used to it.

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:17 PM
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1. ...and you are here to help? (n/t)
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:17 PM
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2. I can't believe what Hillary said today. I just heard it
I'm just shocked. Shocked
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:22 PM
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8. Yeaaaah. You're so credible when you say that too.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:17 PM
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3. it won't work. once Obama rolls tomorrow....
she will cry and swear and hitch up her pantsuit for possibly another week of this....but then Bill will tell her he's endorsing Obama and that will be that.

BUWAHAHHAHAHA! Can you imagine if he DID endorse Obama? It would be like the Lewinsky years all over again. CHILLY!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:20 PM
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4. I truly hope that is what occurs. n/t
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midora Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:22 PM
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7. And if Hillary Achieves Her Goal.....
I hope she'll be proud of herself. Maybe McCain will give her a post in his administration.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:24 PM
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12. Welcome to DU, midora..
may things really change after tomorrow.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:20 PM
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27. They ARE pretty cozy,
and Hillary WAS campaigning for him today.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:21 PM
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5. A "small subset of people" for Obama? Not sure what bubble you are living in,
but a LOT OF people love Obama, including people who did not vote in the primaries but who will vote in the General Election. Lots of people will accept it if Hillary won it fair and square but between her despicable campaign and how she's trying to figure out how to steal it every other week, that changes the game.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:23 PM
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11. I do not live in a bubble. If your implication is that I am ignorant of the political landscape
that's an opinion to which you have every right.
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midora Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:31 PM
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17. I Have Always Had Kind of a Bad Feeling
about Hillary Clinton, but if I thought she could serve a positive purpose for the Democratic Party, I would be willing to give her a chance. But she's running a Lee Atwater/Karl Rove-style type campaign, and all she does is rant about Obama's "lack of experience"--as opposed to her stellar record of being married to a politician for 30 years!--and whine about how she should be the one who should answer the phone at 3 am. Yeah, right. She'd probably give the guy who called a piece of her mind for calling her in the middle of the night. I am totally disgusted with her, and I never will vote for her, although I have always voted for the Democratic nominee in every presidential election.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:47 PM
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28. Welcome to DU. I hope that your stay here is a good one.
Rather devisive time to join - it can only get better!
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:21 PM
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6. You are fucked, my friend, get used to it.
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riskpeace Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:27 PM
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15. Such a classy person you are.
nt
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:32 AM
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29. I'd be willing to school you any time.
;)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:23 PM
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9. Nice reverse psychology, burythehatchet!
That greedymonger is goin' down.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:23 PM
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10. Both Obama and Clinton are used as examples of how we will lose to McCain
So that is a pretty empty argument.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:25 PM
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13. Hillary will forever stain the name Clinton if she puts her ambitions above the party
Her chance to win without back room deals or outright trickey will be near zero after tomorrow.

Should she win the nomination by those means and lose in the GE due to her destruction of the party in her puruit of power, or just stay in to try and damage Obama in the hope that she can run again in 2012 against President McCain, her pull with the Democratic party will be less than Bush's currently with the GOP.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:25 PM
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14. You're wrong. And you are allowing the DU experience with a few Hill shills to cloud your reality.
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 09:26 PM by TexasObserver
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:28 PM
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16. Light a candle for us here in PA
She is about to turn our lovely green state into a smoldering, smoking shit heap before the goalposts move again.

:grr:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:43 PM
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20. no offense, but I hope your vote won't matter
because I am totally wrong and Obama wins it tomorrow.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:44 PM
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21. None taken. I would be MUCH MUCH happier concentrating on GOTV
than cleaning up the 'excretions' of the next 7 weeks.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:15 PM
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26. let's hope the refs step in and call the game before then
man, it's nasty tonight. I can't imagine it being possible for this level of near mutual assured destruction to go on for much longer
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:32 PM
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18. nope
not buying it and not getting used to it.

I don't care what resources she has. There will come a point where the party will be compelled to stop the bleeding.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:44 PM
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22. "L'etat c'est moi"...unfortunately the Clintons have convinced themselves that they ARE the party n/
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:33 PM
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19. If she wins the nomination
her victory celebration will be short lived. McCain will crush her in the GE.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:46 PM
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24. You can bank on that
She can't win pretty -- she can only strong arm SDs and present lawsuits at this point.

Had she not gone to Defcon level 6 with the negativity, she may have stood a chance with the goodwill of the Clinton brand with room to maneuver.

She just lost any moral/ethical standing on that the past 2 weeks.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:46 PM
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23. No fuckin' way. I refuse to let her negative bullshit win.
I started a post a little while ago to get the anger I'm feeling out of my system because I have a lot of work to do tomorrow.

Tomorrow - Obama takes Texas and I'm going to help. Yes We Can! :kick:
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iilana X Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:00 PM
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25. She isn't going to be the nominee for the Democratic Party. She just killed her own nomination.
After what she said today, there is going to be a stampede of Super Delegates away from Clinton.

There is no way the Democratic Party is going to let anyone who said what she did about McCain be the nominee.

That's exactly why there are Super Delegates: to stop anyone who is a disgrace to the party from being nominated.

The nominee must be a Democrat. Period. Today Clinton wasn't acting much like any Democrat I've seen since Joe Lieberman.

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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:33 AM
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30. Clinton rules!!
It's going to be awesome to have her win the nomination and then the presidency.
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