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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:20 PM
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If Clinton gets the nomination, How will you supporters feel knowing...
that she put more effort into attacking Obama (D) than McCain (R)?



Bill Clinton: John McCain and Hillary are 'very close'
CNN- January 25, 2008

If Hillary Clinton and John McCain become their party's presidential nominees, the general election race is likely to be a love-fest.

At least according to Bill Clinton.

Campaigning in Spartanburg, South Carolina, Friday, the former president brushed aside suggestions his wife would prove to be a divisive nominee for the Democratic Party, pointing out how she has successfully worked with Republicans in the Senate — including one of the current GOP presidential candidates.

"She and John McCain are very close," Clinton said. "They always laugh that if they wound up being the nominees of their party, it would be the most civilized election in American history, and they're afraid they'd put the voters to sleep because they like and respect each other."


link: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/25/bill-clinton-john-mccain-and-hillary-are-very-close/


This is the anti-republican "fighter"??
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:21 PM
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1. SHAME ON YOU, HILLARY CLINTON!
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 07:21 PM by JVS
:fingerwag:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:23 PM
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8. Now THAT is a smiley begging to be invented.
:hi:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:24 PM
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17. found it
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:27 PM
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LMAO!
Its saying... "Shame on You" :rofl: Its perfect!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:28 PM
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30. here is the page I found it on
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:28 PM
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I want :fistshake:, n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:18 PM
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55. MEET ME IN PUERTO RICO AND LET'S HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT YOUR TACTICS AND YOUR RHETORIC
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:21 PM
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2. She is vile!
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:22 PM
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3. She does not deserve to be a Democrat.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:22 PM
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4. Her entire strategy focused on being the front-runner
She was going to walk to the nomination and as a result of this she was thrown off her game when a challenger surpassed her. Now she has to scramble and pull these tricks out of the bag. Since the inevitability train has lost some steam she's trying a new (or not so new) technique.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:22 PM
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5. Clintons don't care about winning ugly, just winning.
Except it took a three-way race with Ross Perot for Bill to "win" both his elections ... not exactly a mandate ...
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:22 PM
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6. Hillary will NOT get the nomination
and starting Wednesday after Obama sweeps all 4 contests tomorrow we will see dozens of super delegates throwing their support to Barack. This little McCain and I have more experience than Obama is NOT playing out too well in democratic circles trust me
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:24 PM
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13. From your fingers to God's ears ... I hope he pounds her tomorrow
I hadn't heard about this "me and McCain have experience" line until today. I was willing to give her Rhode Island just so she wouldn't look like such a loser, but now all bets are off. I hope she gets SLAMMED ... Drive a stake into the "Clinton era" ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:22 PM
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7. Madam President sure sounds good......
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:24 PM
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15. It does sound good, but I hope it doesn't happen
I'm not currently a Hillary supporter. But I will be if she wins the nomination and be happy to hear people call her that.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:24 PM
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16. one added thing that's going to make it that much sweeter
tomorrow night is no longer having to suffer through posts by this asshat any more
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:08 PM
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49. self delete, responded to wrong poster
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 09:09 PM by Carolina
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:24 PM
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18. Only if Obama is getting gender reassigment surgery sometime soon.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:25 PM
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19. Madame President.
and her White House of political whores.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:10 PM
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50. Touche.... the truth
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:23 PM
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9. Obama attacked her just as much.
I'll feel fine.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:25 PM
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20. So you'd rather she be enemies with Democrats
and friends with Republicans? Really?
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:27 PM
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26. As I recall...
wasn't it Obama who was going on about how great Reagan was...better than Clinton?

Who is the friend of republicans?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:34 PM
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34. Such crap.
Link me to an Obama quote where he says Reagan was "better" than Clinton.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:38 PM
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36. Context and reading comprehension are everything
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 07:41 PM by Greyskye
Source: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/clinton-obama_slugfest.html

Obama's Reagan Remarks to Reno Gazette-Journal,
Jan. 14, 2008
Obama: I don’t want to present myself as some sort of singular figure. I think part of what’s different are the times. I do think that, for example, the 1980 election was different. I mean, I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that, you know, Richard Nixon did not, and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path, because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like, you know, with all the excesses of the '60s and the '70s, you know government had grown and grown, but there wasn’t much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating, and I think people just tapped into – he tapped into what people were already feeling, which is we want clarity, we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism, and, and, you know, entrepreneurship that had been missing.

I think Kennedy, 20 years earlier, moved the country in a fundamentally different direction. So I think a lot of it just has to do with the times. I think we’re in one of those times right now, where people feels like things as they are going right now aren’t working, that we’re bogged down in the same arguments that we’ve been having, and they’re not useful. And the Republican approach, I think, has played itself out. I think it’s fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10, 15 years, in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom.

Now, you’ve heard it all before. You look at the economic policies when they’re being debated among the presidential candidates, it’s all tax cuts. Well, we know, we’ve done that; we’ve tried it. That’s not really going to solve our energy problems, for example.


And if you think Obama's quotes are terrible things, what do you think of these?
Obama also has been taking heat for praising Ronald Reagan in that same interview. See the text box to the left for his exact words. Clinton tried to avoid mentioning that, for good reason, but Obama turned it against her anyway:

Obama: The irony of this is that you provided much more fulsome praise of Ronald Reagan in a book by Tom Brokaw that's being published right now, as did – as did Bill Clinton in the past. So these are the kinds of political games that we are accustomed to.

Obama is correct: Both Bill and Hillary Clinton have lauded Reagan’s political skills. Tom Brokaw’s "Boom! Voices of the Sixties" quotes Clinton as saying that Reagan was "a child of the Depression" who understood pressures on the working and middle class:

Hillary Clinton (in Brokaw book): When he had those big tax cuts and they went too far, he oversaw the largest tax increase. He could call the Soviet Union the Evil Empire and then negotiate arms-control agreements. He played the balance and the music beautifully.

And here’s Bill Clinton in 1998 at the dedication of the Reagan Building in Washington, D.C.:

Bill Clinton (May 5, 1998): The only thing that could make this day more special is if President Reagan could be here himself. But if you look at this atrium, I think we feel the essence of his presence: his unflagging optimism, his proud patriotism, his unabashed faith in the American people. I think every American who walks through this incredible space and lifts his or her eyes to the sky will feel that.

We’ll leave it to others to decide who's praising Reagan more. The fact is that Bill and Hillary have done it, not just Obama.


Your question was "Who is the friend of republicans?". Well, why don't you tell me?

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:17 PM
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54. Smile while you tell your lies.
:hi:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:46 PM
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58. That's Obamas motto.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:27 PM
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25. The he did it too defence
so it's perfec6tly alright with you. Penn/Clinton - Turd Blossom II.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:43 PM
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38. Turd Blossom II.
:spray:
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:23 PM
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10. How silly. Do you have even a rudimentary knowledge of how primaries work? I'm guessing not.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:30 PM
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31. Yeah you're right.
I'm a complete and total idiot. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I'd never have had the where-with-all to come up with that on my own. Lucky for me... you clued me in. You are my hero. I bow my feeble head in your presence.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:32 PM
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32. Look, just because you made an idiotic post, don't take it personally.
You'll recover and live to make another idiotic post.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:35 PM
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35. Yep. Quoting Bill Clinton is idiotic. So says beausoir. nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:23 PM
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11. I won't feel any different...
than I do right now. Disgusted with my government. There's always revolution, right?
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:24 PM
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12. Hillary is smart as a whip! You go girl!
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:26 PM
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24. Too bad being smart isn't necessary to get elected
I give you exhibit A: George W. Bush.

I'm happy that our two candidates can run intellectual circles around the numbskulls that the GOP has thrown out there.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:28 PM
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27. Clearly. Obama seems to be very aloof and not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
The American people are not exactly brilliant - so we usually end up with sub-par leaders.

That does not detract from Hillary's brilliance and devotion to bettering the world.
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Tresalisa Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:17 PM
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45. It's great that Hillary has all that
'brilliance and devotion to bettering the world'. It sure would've been better if she'd had brilliance and devotion to running a better campaign. :think:

There is no logical reason for her to be in this predicament at this stage. She should've been our nominee, based on many factors such as money and name recognition. At this point Obama seems to be wielding a pretty sharp knife.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:28 PM
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46. Yes, running a permanant political campaign worked so well for Bush.
Look at the great things.....oh, wait..... I guess my points stand.
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Tresalisa Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:32 PM
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47. Hmmmmm...
You didn't, perhaps, compete in the long jump in high-school track, did you? What would the connection of your reply be to what I posted? :shrug:

I will vote for either of our candidates if they are the nominee. I was merely stating that her brilliance may not have extended to the way she has run her campaign.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:10 PM
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59. Her 'brilliance and devotion to bettering the world' helped kill...
4000 soldiers and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis because of an agenda about oil. That is so disgusting to me and I am happy I dont know anyone that supports Clinton. Our lives traded so they could have more money and power...Disgusting!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:49 PM
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41. "Girl"
Id rather be called a bitch than a "girl".

You want to imply immature female child? Go ahead with your bad self.

But I'll take dominant female -or- male over dumb kid any day.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:50 PM
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42. Hillary Clinton: "I'm your girl"
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 07:50 PM by jlake
Take it up with her.

And save the feigned outrage for someone who cares.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:02 PM
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43. Feigned outrage? Im not the one throwing the hissy fit over the word Bitch.
The Hillary supporters on DU are the only people on the planet that try to pretend theyve never used the word "BITCH".

And yet... you want to talk to ME about feigned outrage? HA. I'm a bitch and proud of it. I'm strong enough that words cant hurt me. Check it out... Im a little bitch-girl. Happy now?
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:24 PM
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14. I thought the attacks on Obama appeared orchestrated between
she and McCain. I guess it was.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:25 PM
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21. Blonde, blind ambition, devoid of any guiding principles.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:25 PM
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22. Grateful
I would be very pleased if Hillary can become the nominee at this point and it would be a great comeback!

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:25 PM
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23. Better than Obama supporters knowing how they got a free ride.
For all the hand-wringing about how vile Hillary is, you'll be in for a nasty shock once the McCain effort starts.

Thankfully, you'll have us Hillbots to pull your pampered asses out of the fire.

--p!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:28 PM
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28. Has Obama even mentioned the Republicans other than to answer McCain?
Hillary was the one in debate after debate railing against the Bush admin and Republicans whiel Obama & Edwards attacked her.

Here's Hillary attacking McCain on the economy

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/in-interview-hi.html
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:28 PM
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29. Oh for crying out loud. It's a pirmary.
In GE, she is expected to attack McCain.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:44 PM
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39. Cill Clintons comment referred to a GE.
In case you didnt notice.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:34 PM
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33. During the primaries they are running against each other, not McCain.
When the nominee is declared, then will be the time to go after McCain.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:41 PM
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37. You may have noticed that its been Clinton McCain vs. Obama lately. nt
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:46 PM
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40. McCain has his nomination sewn up already. Maybe he feels that
he will be facing Obama in the GE and he's starting his campaign early. Who knows.

Obama and Hillary are still engaged in the race for the nomination so they are campaigning against each other. I haven't seen anything myself to make me think that McCain and Clinton are teaming up against Obama.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:03 PM
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44. Sorry, I only vote for Democrats.
Not Rovian Liebercrats.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:04 PM
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48. My point exactly.
The problem is that the "democrats" are the most rovian of all.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:13 PM
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51. I won't care in the least. nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:13 PM
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52. It's called politics. Looks like the Obama camp is shocked, just shocked
. . . to find folks practicing politics in an election. If Obama can't move past this lightweight stuff he doesn't have a chance in the general. Maybe he'd be better off if his campaign wasn't spending so much time inventing outrage.
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:14 PM
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53. BO swift-boated Clinton... wake-up!!! if Hillary is the nominee, yipee!!!
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:34 PM
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56. HOW DARE SHE TRY TO WIN THE PRIMARY SO SHE CAN RUN AGAINST MCCAIN!!!
OUTRAGE OUTRAGE OUTRAGE!!!!!

This forum is comedy gold sometimes. :popcorn:
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:36 PM
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57. Do you really expect her to go down without a fight?
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