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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:01 PM
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News from the Embassy of Canada: Official Statement
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 04:02 PM by Ichingcarpenter


News from the Embassy of Canada

Statement by the Canadian Embassy

Washington, D.C., March 3, 2008 — The Canadian Embassy and our Consulates General regularly contact those involved in all of the Presidential campaigns and, periodically, report on these contacts to interested officials. In the recent report produced by the Consulate General in Chicago, there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA. We deeply regret any inference that may have been drawn to that effect.

The people of the United States are in the process of choosing a new President and are fortunate to have strong and impressive candidates from both political parties. Canada will not interfere in this electoral process. We look forward, however, to working with the choice of the American people in further building an unparalleled relationship with a close friend and partner.

http://geo.international.gc.ca/can-am/washington/menu-en.asp?lang_update=1


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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:03 PM
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1. This Proves That Even Canada Is Biased Towards Obama
The entire country has drunk the cool aid. Isn't it obvious?

Poor Hillary can't get a break.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:04 PM
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3. I guess we need to believe Taylor Marsh
The official representative of bullshit.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:03 PM
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2. Breaking: Canada endorses Obama.
:rofl:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:07 PM
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6. Blame Canada
Sheila: Times have changed
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents
They just want to fart and curse!
Sharon: Should we blame the government?
Liane: Or blame society?
Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV?
Sheila: No, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada

Sheila: With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada

Sheila: We need to form a full assault
Everyone: It's Canada's fault!
Sharon: Don't blame me
For my son Stan
He saw the damn cartoon
And now he's off to join the Klan!

Liane: And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself!
Sheila: Well, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada

Sheila: It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since Canada came along
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:05 PM
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4. Hillary will probably claim that Canadian Embassy is lying. nt
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:06 PM
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5. Of course Canada would say that...
...they have a lot to gain financially by those little words.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:09 PM
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7. You're kidding? Right
No, I guess Taylor Marsh is not Canadian enough for you.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:09 PM
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8. Guess.
:evilgrin:
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:10 PM
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9. That's an apology, not a denial
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 04:11 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
They are apologizing for making the probable next president of the US look bad.

Where's the part about, "The memo is a forgery"? Or a denial that what was reported was said?

People need to learn to read better, and learn to think better.

"In the recent report produced by the Consulate General in Chicago, there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA."

That does not say he didn't... it says the Canadian government's intention was not to say he did.

Well, no shit.



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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:15 PM
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11. Bingo n/t
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:55 PM
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12. There may have been a 'memo', but without a transcript, it
hardly sounds like an official Canadian government 'report.'

Close reading would also require one to consider that the named Obama adviser may just have been leery about having too much read into his statements, in the first place, since he may not have been in a position to be making "clear articulation of policy plans."

It was two guys walking across campus having a conversation that both may have remembered differently.

From CNN:

"...The AP obtained a memo from a Canadian diplomat saying an Obama adviser had told Canada's government the candidate's criticism of NAFTA was "more about political positioning than a clear articulation of policy plans."

But Austan Goolsbee, the Obama adviser, told the AP his statements were mischaracterized.

Clinton said Monday the memo should raise doubts about Obama's criticism of NAFTA, which is highly unpopular in Ohio after a large loss of manufacturing jobs there in recent years..."


link:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/03/democrats.primaries/?iref=hpmostpop

The CNN piece goes on to include a response from the campaign manager:

"...Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said Goolsbee's comments came during an informal conversation on a walking tour of the University of Chicago, where the adviser is a professor. Plouffe described the AP report as overblown and inaccurate.

"This is being reported as if somehow this is an official meeting of an Obama representative and the Canadian government," Plouffe said. "That was not the case. He was essentially doing a walking tour and was essentially having a casual conversation and the report on that conversation was not accurate."


You'd never know that was the case from reading Reuters truncated synopsis, which goes on to change the wording and say the Canadian Consulate wrote a 'report' (not a mere memo):

"...Key Obama economic advisor Austan Goolsbee discussed his candidate's policies with the Canadian consulate in Chicago, which wrote a report suggesting Obama's words on NAFTA were designed for a political audience and shouldn't be taken too seriously.

The report was leaked to the U.S. media, prompting some Democrats to accuse Canada's right-leaning Conservative government of trying to interfere in the election -- a charge dismissed by Prime Minister Stephen Harper..."



http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0338038720080303

The really ironic aspect of all of this, for me, is that on the day before the most important primary election, Hillary Clinton (let's not forget whose administration brought us NAFTA, in the first place) is cast as NAFTA's "true" opponent, at least in terms of "the latest breaking news" media narrative, and she's magically absolved from any (shared) responsibility she may have had, in originally supporting it. Or for ever having spoken out publicly, in favor of it.

Makes you proud to be a North American.

There's more, at CNN, where Goolsbee names his accuser, and denies making the statements mis-quoted in the Canadian "memo":

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/03/obama.nafta.ap/index.html?iref=werecommend

Except, *darn it all*, I just realized from looking at the text of both those CNN links -- one is from the 'most popular' list, the other's from the 'we recommend' list. Tomorrow both links will probably be gone. I looked around on the page, but couldn't find a permanent link to either story.


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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:13 PM
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10. Next, Canada doesnt matter to Hillary
But on the plus side, she still has Mexico.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:09 PM
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13. Canadians do favor Obama, same as Americans.
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