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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 06:35 PM
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Conservative bloggers lie debunked: "Barack Obama loves Che Guevara."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/365/

]"Barack Obama loves Che Guevara."
Conservative bloggers on Monday, February 18th, 2008 in blog postings responding to a news video showing the flag.

Flag was there, but Obama wasn’t waving it

Barack Obama has been subjected to chain e-mail attacks that falsely claim he is a Muslim, that he refused to put his hand on his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance and of taking an oath of office with a Koran. He’s even been accused of being anti-American for not wearing an American flag pin.

Here’s the latest chapter: The Barack Obama Revolucion.

This one originates with a local Fox 26 story in Houston. The camera follows two Obama volunteers whooping it up as they enter a new campaign office. The reporter talks about the importance of the Hispanic vote in Houston. Though it went unmentioned, many viewers had a moment of “Wait, is that a....?” Yep, a large Cuban flag with the image of Che Guevara on it can be seen prominently hanging behind the desk of one of the volunteers.

Ernesto “Che” Guevara was a Latin American guerrilla leader and Marxist revolutionary, a major figure in the Cuban revolution led by Fidel Castro in the late 1950s. Although hailed in some leftist circles as a legendary icon of rebellion, the Argentine-born doctor is also reviled by many Cubans for ruthlessly ordering the execution of more than 150 prisoners in Cuba without a fair trial.

Not surprisingly, it didn’t take long for the Fox video to make the rounds on the Internet. More than 70,000 people viewed the video on YouTube. Many blogs picked up the story and ran with it under headlines such as “Barack Obama Loves Che Guevara” at this site and “Barack Obama is a Che Fan” at this one. And the photos have been widely spread via chain e-mails that suggest Obama supports Che Guevara.

On Feb. 11, Orlando Sanchez, a native of Cuba and treasurer of Houston’s Harris County weighed in: “I was outraged to see an image of Che arrogantly displayed over the Cuban flag hanging in the Houston offices of the Obama for President.”

Sanchez, a Republican, is the first Cuban-American elected countywide in Harris County, which boasts the largest concentration of Latinos in Texas. He requested, "on behalf of all Cuban Americans" that Obama demand the flag's removal.

After the whole thing blew up on the Internet, Fox 26 in Houston went back and interviewed the woman who had the flag hanging behind her desk.

Her name is Maria Isabel and on an Obama Web page she describes herself as a precinct captain for Barack Obama in Houston. When asked about the flag, Isabel said, “It’s a distraction. I don’t have time to talk about the Cuban flag.”

Isabel, who said she was born in Cuba, cut off the interview when the reporter asked if she wanted to apologize for the flag.

“Apologize for what? I think it is a waste of time and it (the interview) is taking too much of my time.” On Feb. 12, the Obama campaign sought to put the issue to rest.

“This is a volunteer office that is not in any way controlled by the Obama campaign,” a statement from the campaign reads. “We were disappointed to see this picture because it is both offensive to many Cuban-Americans -- and Americans of all backgrounds -- and because it does not reflect Senator Obama’s views. Barack Obama has been very clear in putting forward a Cuba policy that is based on one principle: freedom for the Cuban people.”

A disclaimer now appears below the Web site with the Fox 26 video of the women opening the office. “The office featured in this video is funded by volunteers of the Barack Obama Campaign and is not an official headquarters for his campaign.”

Nick Shapiro, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, said he has heard that the flag was taken down. “But honestly, it’s not our office,” he said on Feb. 21, 2008. “It is not an official campaign office. She is a volunteer precinct captain. Her views do not reflect the views of the campaign.”

The question is whether or not it's accurate to say “Obama Loves Che Guevara,” or any of the many variations of that theme now floating around the Internet, based upon this one decoration in this one office put up by this one volunteer. We say no. We say Pants on Fire.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 06:37 PM
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1. so you decide to post the lie here?
real subtle there...we're all so stupid that we can't see what you're actually doing
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 06:43 PM
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3. "we're all so stupid"?
You got a mouse in your pocket there, SoFlo?
I'm planning on supporting our nominee no matter who it is, as I've been saying for months here.
The HillaryHaters will just have to move along, as they'll have nothing left to post about here.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 06:44 PM
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5. What's the lie???
It's an article about an event that occurred and some people's reactions to it.

Like it or not, stories like this get real play in politics.

A story like this can be damaging in some areas and in other quarters it's a non-issue.

When this story was first mentioned here at DU, there were people who commented that this could get play in areas like Miami.

In American politics, there's no such thing as a non-issue. It's just how the issue gets spun by all the sides.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:40 PM
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11. Exactly. It's kind of hard to talk about something without explaining it.
But some around here only want to hear things they agree with. The typical head-in-the-sand buffoons.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 06:41 PM
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 06:43 PM
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4. Welcome to DU.
Please read the rules before posting.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 06:48 PM
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7. I read the rules.....
I just don't know what possible value your post has....No offense. I COULD be missing something, if I am I will apologise.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 06:46 PM
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6. Well, I'm glad we got that straightened out.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:30 PM
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8. Recommended, no matter what candidate you support: Politifact.com
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/
Best freakin' polictical truth site on the web!
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:33 PM
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9. Che Guevara has become a counter-culture icon. People love the t-shirts and posters.
Some of them are here on DU, as you can see by their avatars. They probably just don't know much about history.


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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:53 PM
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12. Che was a mass murderer, I'm surprised he's an avatar option here.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:33 PM
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10. che guevara would murder obama FIRST after a new che revolution nt
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:59 PM
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13. Too bad.
Dumb story.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:43 PM
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14. I have'nt read much
into this..I just thought it was an icon to mimic not a life to emulate. I have read some disturbing things about Che, of course in a revolution alot of people either stand up or die.
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