I'll State It Here - Colin Powell Is Going To Be Obama's Vice President

[THUNDER HANDS]

You can bookmark this thread.

He was Obama before Obama was Obama.

He probably could have beat Clinton in 1996 if he decided to run.

He's a moderate.

He's respected by both parties.

He's ashamed of his role in the Iraq war, even if he was the least-influental member of Bush's cabinet on that decision.

He advises prudent, decisive action when waging wars.

He doesn't aspire to be president.

He has even more military cred than McCain does.

He balances out Obama's biggest weakness.

His tone and style is very similiar to Obama.

He's been around Washington long enough to know everyone there, on both sides.

He probably is sicked by the thought of 100 years in Iraq as much as any of us.

He would, more than anything Obama could say, prove that he means it when he talks about bringing both sides together.

Pundits would celebrate the choice. They'd call Obama brilliant, as that move would be.

Independents who support McCain would have no reason to stick with him, everything they like about McCain they'd find in Powell.

It would be the ultimate turning of the page to a new era.

And I'd wholeheartedly endorse this selection, even though I know most people here would hate it.

But I'm sticking my neck out here - Obama/Powell 2008.

[Colobo]

1. No... as much as I respect Powell, no.

[Alexander]

2. No way. Not going to happen. Obama will pick a Democrat.

[tabatha]

3. No way.

[yourout]

4. Not if he wants to win.

[caledesi]

42. I agree! NT

[AtomicKitten]

5. Not a snowball's chance in hell.

[RiverStone]

6. No.

A former puke - even a war apologist - as part of the Dem ticket???

Remember Lieberman? :puke:

Don't think so...

[jackson_dem]

69. Why not? Kerry wanted McCain and Kerry wasn't claiming he would unite both parties

[Olney Blue]

7. He would be flirting with losing the Democratic base.

But I'll bookmark this page, and we'll see what happens Rat! :hi:

[THUNDER HANDS]

11. yeah...just bookmark it

I'd like to see if it comes true.

Then I'll start playing lotto.

:D

[CJCRANE]

8. Remember Powell's UN presentation? nt

[malik flavors]

9. I think it'd be a great ticket, but I don't think America's ready for that one just yet.

[DearAbby]

10. When hell freezes over........

Powell's UN Lie-fest.

[montanacowboy]

12. Powell the War Criminal?

Obama was against the WAR? What are you smoking? He sure would lose my vote pronto. Powell belongs in prison along with the rest of the lying scumbag criminals.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

13. Selling one's soul generally turns one into damaged goods.

That may not be true 100% of the time, but it certainly is when it comes to Colin Powell.

[NJSecularist]

14. I won't vote for Obama if Powell is on the ticket

I'll sit out. I'm warning you Obama, if you choose Powell as your VP, you are tinkering with your base.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. you mean the person who argued for the war in front of the UN. that man?

:rofl:

[Maddy McCall]

22. Kind of kills his criticism of Hillary for voting for the IWR, eh?

I'm with you. The hypocrisy is hillarious!

:rofl:

[KaryninMiami]

37. Yeah- that guy. Hero or not- Powell was part of the lie machine that led us to Iraq

I doubt that he would even be in the running as VP for Obama.

[NastyRiffraff]

16. No way.

I don't like Obama, but I don't think he'd be that stupid.

I know I'm going to be flamed as a racist (which is far from the truth), but practically, it would make no sense for him to pick a Black VP. If that's racist, it's because there is, sadly, still a lot of racism in this country. It would even be iffy for him to pick a woman, simply because while a lot of people might vote for a Black, they can't quite swallow a Black and a woman (or another Black). This is especially true for the crossover voters and Independents; most Democrats would vote for him regardless, simply out of their legitimate fears of a McCain presidency.

Second, Powell is a Republican. Although ideologically he's pretty close to Obama, the Democratic base would cry foul. They may vote for him anyway, but his presidency would be tainted in their eyes. A lot of us still deeply resent what he did in the U.N.

I don't have a horse in this particular VP race, but Powell just makes no sense.

[cali]

17. LOL! I'll state it here: No way on earth

that's completely ludicrous. Obama won't choose a repuke and he won't choose Colin Freakin' Powell. And I wouldn't vote for him if he did.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

18. Not a chance.

Obama would pick an actual Democrat, not a warmed-over Bush administration reject who carried the neocons' water to the U.N. with that fake WMD bullshit and perjured himself before the entire world. Powell may have been well-respected once, but not any more.

[Maddy McCall]

19. Won't happen. Bookmarked.

[AlinPA]

20. He lied at the UN and helped to get Rove-Bush**'s war underway for them

No way Obama would pick him. It would tear the Democrats apart to have one of the chief war-makers alongside him.

[DJ13]

21. Dont get your hopes up

Even if Powell hadnt made himself a laughing stock with his UN testimony there still would be a near zero chance of him being Obama's VP.

Theres two problems, first Powell has a long history of saying he doesnt want to run for a national office, second the Democrats really wouldnt dare pair two black men on the same ticket, as that would ensure a GOP sweep in any state below the Mason-Dixon line (and several other not so progressive states as well).

[Warren Stupidity]

23. You are going to be very wrong.

[BlueManDude]

24. More likely McCain's VP.

I gurantee McCain will at least ask.

[gateley]

29. Hmmm... that's something I hadn't thought of.

It'll be interesting to see if you're correct.

[nsd]

59. I don't think Powell will end up on McCain's ticket.

Powell turns 71 years old this year. Republicans are already defensive about McCain's age. They're not going to run two old men against Obama.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

25. Not In A Million Years.

Take that, and bookmark it.

[Tatiana]

26. Are you serious? Or is this snark? n/t

[THUNDER HANDS]

30. it's serious

Obama is an outside-the-box type of thinker. This is about as outside the box as you can get.

[tekisui]

27. I don't like it.

I don't like Powell. He sold the war that Hillary voted for. It would be disingenuous to chose him.

And, he's a Repukes. Thank you, no.

[grasswire]

28. he could have been president just for the asking

There would have been NO impediment to his candidacy. It would have been a sure thing. He didn't want it, and his wife didn't want it.

So I don't think he could be talked into veep.

[MaineDem]

61. And then he went to the UN

I think that killed his POTUS hopes.

[grasswire]

63. yes

But the point is, he didn't have any hopes. I interviewed him in the early 90s when he was still Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and even back then people were talking about him as a potential POTUS and his close staff people were saying he'd never do it.

[Warren DeMontague]

31. We don't *need* a Republican to win. That party is thoroughly discredited.

I say, pick someone like Russ Feingold.

[Eurobabe]

32. No freaking way. He'll pick a Dem, not a Bush -butt kisser

Powell lost his cred a long time ago. He had the chance to speak out, and he didn't.

[NashVegas]

33. Okay, Just for Fun

I will bookmark this thread, so you'll have the opportunity to ask: wtf was I thinking?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

34. He lied about the WMDs like everybody else

[RandomKoolzip]

35. Dude, that would suck.

[Evergreen Emerald]

36. wouldn't that be hypocritical after the attacks Obama has raised against Clinton

for IWR?

[THUNDER HANDS]

43. only as hypocritical as if he let

Biden or Kerry or Edwards or Hillary or any Dem senator who voted for the war on the ticket as his VP.

[robbedvoter]

47. You really don't see a difference between "cooking" and "failing to oppose" a war?

[tekisui]

53. That would be "cooking" vs. "supporting" an illegal war.

Difference of degree, not kind.

[Window]

38. I sincerely hope not.

[bigbrother05]

39. You need to quit donating your meds money to the campaign.

irony?

[FrenchieCat]

40. Why? Because they are both Light skinned Black men?

That's the only thing they have in common other than an immigrant parent. :eyes:

[caledesi]

41. Powell lied at the UN! He lost ALL respect for that stunt! NT

[donheld]

44. Most idiotic idea ever

:crazy::crazy::crazy:

[robbedvoter]

45. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised either! After all, it's the war, stupid!"

[marlakay]

46. You are sooo wrong!

Did you see his speech before the war? He knew he was lying but went on with it anyway. He lost his best friend who couldn't keep silent in saying it was all wrong. Powell has NEVER admitted the war was wrong and that is one of Obamas biggest stands.

No way....no way.

I use to like Powell, heck I use to respect him but not after that speech and his continued approval for the war ever since.

[bluerum]

48. Do you remember Powell in front of the UN making the case for the Iraq war!!??

He has carried far to much bushCo. water to ever be a serious consideration for ANY government position.

[Barking Spider]

49. CP needs to stay in exile a little longer. He has not been forgiven.

[Exilednight]

50. Powell would be a cancer to the Democratic nominee at this point ...

IF, and that's a big IF, Powell switched parties during this election and served the Democrats in a role of statesmanship, then the public MIGHT be willing to forgive him. To pull him out of retirement and having done nothing for our party since his time with Bush would be a massive mistake.

[THUNDER HANDS]

51. he sounds an awful lot like Obama here...

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell told a packed auditorium at Butler University on Monday that he had no plans to seek an office in the next presidential administration.


"But if any president -- if he or she comes up to you -- you have to think about it, you have to take it seriously," he said. "But I am not currently seeking a position in any administration."

The retired four-star general peppered with anecdotes an hourlong speech that touched on diversity, immigration policy and international diplomacy.
During a question-and-answer session with the audience, he said the U.S. needs to pursue talks with Iran over that country's disputed nuclear program.

"We're the strongest nation in the world -- why should we be afraid to talk to them?" he said. "I think our policy is shortsighted."
Powell also said he endorsed an immigration policy that would protect America's borders, regularize the roughly 12 million people who are here illegally and devise a plan to allow immigrant workers to enter the country "legally and with dignity."

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080219/LOCAL18/802190382/1195/LOCAL18

[rosetta627]

52. Colin Powell is a lying sack of shit

And his presence on the ticket would mean that I wouldn't vote Obama.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

54. If Powell is the VP candidate, he loses the Democratic base. Why on earth would he do something

so ill conceived?

:shrug:

I'm bookmarking, too, this one will be fun to revisit. :-)

[fortyfeetunder]

55. Doubt it.

I'd be surprised if Powell wanted back in on politics...

[TheDonkey]

56. No, but Powell may end up with McCain to inoculate some O mojo

[MoonRiver]

57. Wow, that would be an incredibly BAD choice.

It would guarantee he loses to McCain.

How on earth would Powell explain away his complicity with *'s murderous rampages without admitting they had all committed treason.

[bridgit]

58. He's a republican, seen a photo-shop pic of BO as Lincoln suggesting what I have no idea...

Maybe we are to think of BO as America's greatest republican, who knows :shrug: If that is the case, and BO is America's greatest republican in disguise, then I suppose Powell as VP makes more sense, naw...

Powell won't be VP

[MaineDem]

60. Never in a million years

Nope.

He's a Republican for starters. Most people remember the UN lies. And I can't see two African Americans on the same ticket. Not to be racist but I don't see it happening.

This would never pass the convention.

[bigtree]

62. and Magic Rat's okay with that?

wow

[graywarrior]

64. It'll never happen.

Thank god.

[yardwork]

65. No way. If Obama gets the nomination, his running mate will be a white male.

If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination, her running mate will be a white male.

Bet on it.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

66. If Obama does that I will NOT vote for him......I will stay home

[Garbo 2004]

67. You do know that convention delegates have to vote for the VP pick, yes?

Really think that a) Obama would propose such a choice and b) the Convention delegates/party leaders would rubber stamp it?

Also, it appears you don't know all that much about Powell except for his PR. Early in his career, Powell helped cover up My Lai. And Powell didn't just "happen" to be around as a mere bystander when some dirty work was being done throughout several Republican administrations. He also was involved in Iran Contra, among other things. Weinberger's pretrial pardon by George I no doubt saved Powell some "embarassment." Powell's fronting for the Iraq invasion to Congress and the UN was no accident or anomaly. Powell's been an active participant in some very dirty business through his career but has suceeded in spinning his PR image with a compliant media that doesn't look very closely.

[texas_indy]

68. Wrong. Thanks for playing "guess it wrong". A DEMOCRAT will be the VP choice.

Texas is Obama country! VIVA OBAMA!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fd-MVU4vtU

[Booster]

70. I'm gonna have enough of a hard time voting for Obama. If he

puts Powell on the ticket, I will just not vote. Powell doesn't deserve such an honor.