So, let's say Obama was absolutely right about the Iraq war.

[Saturday]

Let's say that his votes don't count when he voted to continue the war he was against in the first place. Let's say he was right. Does that mean that he will never make a wrong decision ever? If he does make a wrong decision someday should we turn on him? Will all of his decisions be only correct ones in the future? So if you're right once you have impeccable judgment and deserve to be President? That seems to be the thinking of his supporter IMO.

[Johnny__Motown]

1. So in your opinion, you want the one who makes more mistakes? Then you should be happy with Shrub

[Zachstar]

2. What are you going on about?

So where does anybody say that Obama is better than Christ and never makes any kind of error?

WHAT are YOU going on about?

[Saturday]

4. It's been said many times here that he was right about Iraq

and Hillary was wrong and that's why Hillary is bad. I want to know if Obama will be bad too when he makes a wrong decision?

[hiaasenrocks]

5. Where did the OP say that anyone said Obama is better than Christ?

:shrug:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

3. It's an indication not a guarantee.

Being wrong on NAFTA may leave someone unemployed/homeless.
Being wrong on war leaves people dead.

:think:

[Saturday]

7. Thanks you, that's a valid argument.

Now what happens when Obama makes a mistake?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

11. The same as when someone else does.

The better question is what occurs after the mistake- recognition/correction or denial/compounding.

We've seen some of that in this primary season.

[earthlover]

28. Regardless, Obama can clobber McCain about Iraq....Hillary Can't....

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

29. It's a 2004 redux.

[galadrium]

6. Its the differnece between who was more right.

Hill was on the wrong side of the war issue at first, and wont even admit it was a mistake.

[billbuckhead]

8. I want the guy who votes "present" or presses the wrong button

:eyes:bama!

[galadrium]

18. I'd take that anyday over Hill

She was spouting off GOP talking points on Iraq better than most Republicans.

[hiaasenrocks]

9. Didn't she admit that in the last debate?

CLINTON: Well, obviously, I've said many times that, although my vote on the 2002 authorization regarding Iraq was a sincere vote, I would not have voted that way again.

...

RUSSERT: But to be clear, you'd like to have your vote back?

CLINTON: Absolutely. I've said that many times.

________________________________
(Cleveland debate - February 26, 2008)

http://thejournal.epluribusmedia.net/index.php/state-news/ohio-news/34-ohio-news/58-cleveland-debate

[galadrium]

16. No she didn't

There is a difference between saying you want your vote back and admitting it was a mistake.

[hiaasenrocks]

20. LOL

Please give me an example, in the history of any democratic body, in any country, in the history of the world, where someone said they wanted their vote back because they thought they had it right the first time.

Thanks in advance.

[galadrium]

30. Its the difference between admitting she made a mistake, and talking like a politician

Thats why Obama is surging in the polls.

[Faygo Kid]

10. If he's wrong, perhaps he can admit to the mistake. Like Edwards did.

But Hillary won't. She has never admitted that her vote was a mistake. At the last debate, she said she wishes she had it to do over again. That's the closest we've gotten, and it's not good enough.

Haven't we had two terms of a garbage presidency where mistakes are never admitted?

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

12. If Obama is ever wrong on something that results in hundreds of thousands of deaths

then I will denounce (and reject!) him and never support him again.

It was the Iraq War Resolution. We're not talking about a minor mistake here.

[Ravy]

14. Obama wanted to continue the sanctions on Iraq that were killing

hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

19. Oh yes, because sanctions are so much worse

than a bunch of innocent Iraqis getting their asses blown off. :eyes:

[Ravy]

21. There was massive death either way. There was one good chance to avoid it...

... and that was to let the weapons inspectors do their job and to report back to the UN that there were no WMD in Iraq.

Bush made sure that didn't happen.

That was what the IWR was trying to accomplish. I don't blame them for trying.

[lapfog_1]

13. Would you rather have someone that makes mistakes and won't

either admit to them or apologize for them?

We've had such a leader for the last seven years.

Let's try someone different.

[MethuenProgressive]

15. Which time? What version?

2006 -- Statement by Senator Barack Obama on the subjects of Senator Hillary Clinton and the Iraq War Vote, New Yorker Magazine:

"You know, I think very highly of Hillary. The more I get to know her, the more I admire her. I think she’s the most disciplined—one of the most disciplined people—I’ve ever met. She’s one of the toughest. She’s got an extraordinary intelligence. And she is, she’s somebody who’s in this stuff for the right reasons. She’s passionate about moving the country forward on issues like health care and children. So it’s not clear to me what differences we’ve had since I’ve been in the Senate.

"I think what people might point to is our different assessments of the war in Iraq, although I’m always careful to say that I was not in the Senate, so perhaps the reason I thought it was such a bad idea was that I didn’t have the benefit of U.S. intelligence. And, for those who did, it might have led to a different set of choices. So that might be something that sort of is obvious. But, again, we were in different circumstances at that time: I was running for the U.S. Senate, she had to take a vote, and casting votes is always a difficult test."

read more. . .

http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com /

[dailykoff]

17. It means he's a lot less likely to bomb Iran

because he hasn't already promised anybody he would.

[Saturday]

22. So all of the good Hillary has done in her life is forgotten?

You Obama supporters think Obama has never been wrong. He's my Senator. Take it from me, he's done wrong. And guess what, he's never apologized for his mistakes either.

[dansolo]

23. It's called "pattern of behavior"

Hillary has demonstrated that she is willing to make a wrong decision because it is politically expedient. Obama may very well make bad decisions on the scale of Hillary's IWR vote, but that is mere speculation at this point. Hillary has already proven her ability to make bad decisions.

[Saturday]

26. No it isn't speculation. His mistakes are clear but Obama

supporters REFUSE to see them or acknowledge them.

[sniffa]

24. No one could have predicted that ditch would be there

[last1standing]

25. When you rest your entire campaign on your experience, you need to have something to back it up.

At least more than failed attempts (health care) and wrong decisions (IWR). This is not about Obama never making mistakes, it's about a candidate, Clinton, who is stating that she is the only Democrat qualified to be president based on experience. Of course the problem with this is that when we get to the general election there's a repub waiting who has more experience than both the Dem candidates combined. This is why Obama is resting his campaign on judgment not experience. There's a possibility of winning with Obama and the judgment angle, there's no chance of winning with the Clinton and the experience angle.

[sueragingroz]

27. Bush was always right.... until he was wrong...