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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:40 PM Original message |
Did Hillary really just argue to vote for her because she's a woman? |
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Oleladylib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yup, McCain won tonight... |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I think you're confused. Obama won, therefor McCain lost. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Please stop. |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. just because Hillary got her ass handed to her, doesn't mean you should support McCain |
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PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. don't be an idiot |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
85. "McCain has so much baggage he's going to need a bellboy to follow him around." |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
90. Why? Because Rachel Maddow said so? Um. Okay. nt |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. One of many reasons she gave, including experience |
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trueblue2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. NO SHE DIDN'T. What Hillary said was NOT foolish. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. She said having a woman would be different - but how? she voted for the IWR |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. So did the male Senators, you can bet BO would have followed |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. sorry she said a woman would be different - and that just wasn't the case, was it? |
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hendo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
102. What I would like to know |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Everyone on DU knew the idiot would go to war...and we protested |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
47. "Who knew the idiot would start a pre-emtive war." |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
86. Who knew? Are you fucking kidding me? |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 07:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
89. yeah |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
92. Everybody except the most naive among them knew bush had already |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
94. Who knew the idiot would start a preemptive war? |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
96. Obama would have? You sure? Can I borrow the magic 8 ball? n/t |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. Yep. And other things that make me question what type of feminine judgment |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. it wouldn't have been if she was talking about another more qualified woman. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's her hail Mary moment--her last grasp at straws rallying her female "base" |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. I am woman, hear me roar! |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yup. So I guess she thinks Condi Rice would be a good president. n/t |
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DB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. That's what I clearly heard. The smattering applause sealed her fate. N/T |
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Az_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
11. that's what I heard...gender, gender, gender. Sorry Hill, that's not the issue |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Better indicator: |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
13. Yep |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. She Was Trying To Cement An Image Of Change. If Voters Want Change, There's No Bigger Change Than |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Of course there is. Having an African American is the biggest |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. No it isn't. Obama is a man...not a woman...there has never been a woman US President |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. And we've had 10 black presidents? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I don't know but there's never been a woman. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. You honestly don't know this? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. How would I know someone's DNA? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Oh boy. This is like a cheap plagiarizing of Steven Colbert, but wtf, I'll play along. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I didn't say I needed anything. I pointed out that neither of us knows for sure. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. How can we know that none of the presidents had 2 X chromosomes? |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. No, sorry. Having a black president is bigger and something |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. But he's half Irish.... and a man |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
77. Oh, Jeesuz - I've truly seen it all now. Do you even look before you hit the "post message" button? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #77 |
108. Are you |
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Splinter Cell (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. History |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Women are still fighting for equal rights. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Please show me where in U.S. history women were whipped, traded like cattle, and lynched. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Why? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #57 |
72. That's crap |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Black Men got the vote in 1869 (15th Amendment.) Women didn't get the vote until 1920 . |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Under the decade of military occupation known as "reconstruction"... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #76 |
106. You denied the 15th Amendment existed. I posted the facts. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #106 |
114. I knew perfectly well about the 15th amendment |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Look at it from more of a global point of view. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #49 |
61. Because black men historically have been and still are more oppressed than white women |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. We |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Oh trust me, I'm not debating anybody. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. How about we elect |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. We've already had one gay president, thank you**nm |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #49 |
97. How many women senators are there? How many blacks? Don't |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. They both have and have had struggles. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. But she's a white woman, and we've had all white presidents. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. How do you know they've been all white? |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. You have to check the |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. I made no claims, so don't put words in my mouth. |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. So you really know that for sure..lol |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Why do you keep changing what I said or the intent? |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #69 |
82. We don't know for sure that there hasn't been a |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #60 |
78. You know, semantics games really are the last resort of those with nothing left to say. |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:24 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Ha..where have I heard that before.....Go Bama! |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:15 AM Response to Reply #53 |
81. There are claims... |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:26 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. What does history call him...Pres Harding with black blood..or a white president? |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
95. There have been and there are women presidents in other first world |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I Wholeheartedly Disagree, At Least In The Context Of How She Meant It. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. I'm sorry but I disagree. We are 14 YEARS from the OJ |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. What?! "A female president is still a white one." |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #42 |
58. I didn't say that. I said it is more likely we would get a |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. I quoted you directly. You did say that but |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #62 |
104. It is still a bigger thing that a black will. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. You're Arguing The Wrong Topic. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #43 |
59. I'm sorry but I disagree. We'll just have to agree to |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #43 |
64. Thank You.... |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #64 |
91. wow |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
109. Where did I say anything about |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #109 |
113. its "makes an ass out of you" |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
98. The other side of that would be... |
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gabeana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
112. lynching |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
16. Well, that's one thing Obama can't outdo her on. n/t |
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MzShellG (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Meaning what? nt |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. Yes, and he said he was better because of religion |
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LucyParsons (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
23. Fuck that. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Actually...technically... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
80. What a stinking pile |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #80 |
111. Well, aren't you lovely, as usual. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
87. I'm sorry but you really must be having a bad day. I usually don't disagree so vehmently |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. Yes. Yes, she did. n/t |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
37. No, she didn't. n/t |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
39. These 1500 feminists for peace would |
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sanjiadem (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #39 |
55. 1500? really ... wow |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. buzzoff |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
45. Again, Hillary double speak. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
51. It was a regrettable statement, IMO. n/t |
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Egalia (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
65. Gee, women are the majority of the population, |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #65 |
93. by that logic |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #65 |
101. There are most certainly better candidates that share the same gender. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
67. Yes, it would send a strong message and I am glad she said it. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. I agree. Its one of her best qualities |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
71. She does that a lot. |
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Levgreee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
73. here is her comment |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
88. If Obama were WHITE...HOW would he be different??? |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #88 |
100. Obama's not white? |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #100 |
103. excuse me.. |
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Independent-Voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
99. Vaginas for Hillary! What a fucking stupid rationale to pick your candidate. Same goes for Obama |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
105. Is Hillary the one that wears the pants in her house? |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
110. pretty sexist, isn't it? contradicts herself constantly |
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