Hillary is not out and Obama is not in.

[RememberWellstone]

Tonight we will see how far she is going to go. DO not count your chickens or throw in any towels, it's long way from over.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. You're right.

There are 7 whole more days.

[COFoothills]

4. Yes...

...and those are going to be seven long painful days.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. Well, for some of us anyway.

I'm having a pretty good time.

[NJSecularist]

8. hehe

[COFoothills]

15. I guess...

...it's been fun to watch and it certainly is historic.

But I am looking forward to putting an end to the infighting amongst the dems and focusing on beating McCain and winning big on down-ticket races across the country.

But yeah, I see your point too.

[Breeze54]

16. 7 more days? What foolishness is this?

The election isn't until November.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

23. We were talking about Hillary.

But you're right, Obama won't win the GE until November.

[jlake]

2. K&R ~ That truth is inconvenient to some.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

13. Yes, truth can be ignored. You nailed it.

[FlyingSquirrel]

20. lol

You used "Ignored" in a reply to someone on my "Ignored" list

[HCE SuiGeneris]

40. NM -- got your gist...

:evilgrin:

[NJSecularist]

3. Hillary's campaign is even admitting that Hillary's lead in Ohio is down to 1-2 points

And while Hillary is not out yet, it doesn't look good.

[SoFlaJet]

9. you know when Barack Obama wins

we all say to each other "be humble Obama people, be humble-don't gloat" and then we continue to get this kind of delusional stuff. Makes it hard to stay humble doesn't it?

[Window]

46. Absolutely. Some Hillary supporters are vile, as are some

Obama supporters. Hillary supporters say all kinds of insulting shit and whine like hell when you get in their case. The thing is, there are many more Obama supporters here than Hillary supporters, so they just can't win.

I, for one, am sick of being called a part of a vicious cult, crazy, cool-aid swilling movement, etc.

[SoFlaJet]

50. I'm sick of being called a

fucking sexist because I don't support her

[Window]

59. Oh, please. I don't even want to get started on that "sexist" bullshit.

I tried to rise above it, but it's hard at times. I am pissed off at the nerve of some of these assholes. I refuse to take any more of their shit.

Hang in there.



Peace:thumbsup:

[SoFlaJet]

61. I swear I've been called words I don't even understand

misogynistic or some shit like that-they throw that sexist word around like it means NOTHING to people when they have NO IDEA what kind of persons they are accusing-I could start saying stuff about agendas people have just by their avatar symbols and pictures, which make it all too clear where THEY stand in their lives-but I don't

[Window]

77. I feel you.

As I said before, it becomes harder and harder to rise above the bullshit. They have worn the word "sexist" totally out, and they apply it to anything and everything someone says. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on.



Peace:thumbsup:

[loveangelc]

14. when did they admit that??

[NJSecularist]

Major Garrett said it just a few minutes ago

He said he had talked to many members of the Clinton campaign and they said that the lead was closer than the most recent polls indicated.

[loveangelc]

31. I wonder what their internals for TX are.

KiKi was on Tucker Carlson saying she's ahead in both states.

[NJSecularist]

54. I'm not sure

But then again, I think that's just spin from McLean. She's not going to say on the record that Hillary is losing both states.

[SoFlaJet]

55. Kiki is unwatchable

she is another one who lives in this alternate universe where Clinton is on an 11 contest winning streak and Obama has no statistical chance at all

[RememberWellstone]

She is in the lead

There is a big bounce for the Chicago kid...he is still not the nominee, no matter how many times the call for Hillary is asked to leave..no way, buddy. This is a marathon right now..this is not a do or die debate, what it will do is stem the swell..then she can get back on message.

[NJSecularist]

30. Perhaps she is in the lead....but it is fleeting.

[earthlover]

69. This is her last chance at free air time...the rest she has to pay for....

obama will be able to pay for more....

why? because the small doners outspent the big doners, that's why! eat yur hearts out Hillary Herd!

[JimGinPA]

5. Wrong And Wrong Again

Right now she's just looking for a soft place to land.


:eyes:

[Cant trust em]

11. I'm an Obama supporter, but it ain't over until it's over

It's not looking good, but I'll celebrate when she concedes.

[RememberWellstone]

49. It won't happen

Not even in 7 days. There is no reason to do that. It won't hurt the party, it will help it IMO, it allows other states to participate in the process unlike the rethugs. They are stuck with a mummy and there's nothing they can do.

If she quits now or 7 days from now...Obama will return to his bumper sticker Hope/change crap, this will do nothing to motivate us a party.

[Cant trust em]

53. I won't be surprised if this goes all the way to the convention

[emilyg]

67. I hope it does.

[Cant trust em]

68. I can't wait for primary season to end

I'll be excited to look at democrats positively again. I'm tired of this negativity.

[RememberWellstone]

79. Gasp!

You think the stepford kids are acting wacky now..wait to see them lose their freaking minds if this goes to August.

[RememberWellstone]

12. You wish

She's been through so many wars...this is just getting started for her.

[JimGinPA]

24. Exactly What Wars? Her TWO SENATE CAMPAIGNS?

:rofl:

[RememberWellstone]

28. She was the first Lady

of the President of the United States for 8 years. I think this qualifies as war experience. Obama has nothing as far as hardline national leadership. Nothing. I can only remember the Demcon speech as anything significant..and I was there. He did very well...but he's not tallying alot of experience.

[JimGinPA]

39. So, She LOST The Healthcare War...

And what WARS exactly has she won? Name ONE!

[FlyingSquirrel]

25. Supreme Court would be a nice soft place to land

...

[JimGinPA]

47. Had She Not Failed The Bar Exam

:shrug:

[mtnsnake]

26. Go spread your seeds of apathy and hatred somewhere else

[JimGinPA]

44. Sorry No. It's A Bullshit OP

:spank:

[gateley]

7. You know, this campaign has had so many "sure things" turned completely

around - I have to agree with you.

At this point many are shaking their head that Hillary isn't the frontrunner - or the ONLY runner. Who's to say we won't be looking back in a month or two saying "man, Obama was such a SURE THING".

This is what makes this campaign so exciting!

And the same thing on the Rep side!

EDIT to add -- I really do think Obama's got it sewn up, for what it's worth, but I've been wrong before!!

[bigdarryl]

10. The problem with Clinton is everyday shes different one day shes an attack dog then the next day...

she is trying to be likable. This was Gores problem in 2000 shes not conferable in her own skin. With Obama what you see is what you get so my opinion is if she tries to be an attack dog in this debate it won't help her

[bigdarryl]

21. to be honest Obama should ignore Clinton and concentrate on PAPA in this debate

[RememberWellstone]

56. Ahemm

I hope he does...because Hillary is going to ignore him. This should be interesting. I want to see him fly solo and see how he likes the altitude.

[RememberWellstone]

22. Ground swells are hard

to negotiate..Obama is riding something he did not think would happen. He has no clue what or where his success has come from. If Hillary will look at the past, she will be able to see her future more clearly. A swell does not last forever and sure as hell won't last until November.

[DJ13]

17. Im counting my towels, and throwing in the chickens on Hillary's chances

Slim to none.

[RememberWellstone]

29. Good for you.

Then the turn has already started. You have peaked. Good luck on the ride back to reality.

[CreekDog]

18. yeah but Obama is as close to in as Hillary is to out

see the difference? :think:

[RememberWellstone]

34. 240_+superdelegates?

And it's over for her? Not yet. Why not jsut run the race and quit begging her to quit...if he is all that you followers say he is, he should have no problem turning hardcore Hill supporters like me. Right?

[Drunken Irishman]

19. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

[CJCRANE]

27. Hell no!

[cbayer]

33. The Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

How did I miss that? Is everyone OK?

[Drunken Irishman]

36. Google it. ;)

[cbayer]

45. Animal House. Got it.

New one for me! Thanks.

[RememberWellstone]

38. Belushi LOL!

Exactly...we shall run with fun from now on!!!!!!!!!!!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

32. yes indeed ....all the way to the White House Hillary!

[loveangelc]

35. its not over...

[RememberWellstone]

41. K&R

You know it.

[Thrill]

37. Clinton and her supporters again underestimating Obama

They thought they would destroy him in the last debate. Time again for Obama to prove the doubters wrong

[RememberWellstone]

42. You want us to quit?

Right? We are asking you followers of the great Messiah do anything but prove he has experience and vision to lead this country..why ask us to leave now? What do you gain? Nothin. You don't sway us, it is you that end up losing.

[Thrill]

52. No I don't want you to quit.

But I just find it funny how Clinton and her supporters just keep expecting him to be destroyed. Expected him to somehow lose his cool and melt. Like he's some weak moron. I think some of you continue to forget just how smart and intelligent this man is. I think he is a natural leader. And Hillary and McCain are going to have a hard time rattling him.

[RememberWellstone]

72. Destroyed?

Who said anything about that? I never said it...maybe thats your motivation, it's personal now? Nope, it's about experience and issues. Obamanites need to remember than now the rest of the campaign.

[Thrill]

73. You started this thread saying she needs to tear him down

[KAZ]

62. Why would an Obama supporter care what you think? You

just called us idiots, with this Messiah stuff. I could care less about "swaying" you.

[RememberWellstone]

78. Pfffft.

Well sooooo rrrrrrry! This is the general handling that I have witnessed from the followers. He's gonna change the world? How? He's gonna bring change? How? He's got a plan? What is it? No kool-aid for me..he will have to prove himself to me and every other Hill supporter that he disenfranchises with his "kids" behavior.

[Occam Bandage]

43. Hillary Clinton is still in it!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

48. In it to spin it!

That top is wobbling severely these days. :P

[jeffrey_X]

51. Thanks for the update.

Is this what you said before the last debate?

[RememberWellstone]

57. Keep it up

Count the chickens..close the barn, it's ova, she's done...tell everyone you know. No need to even vote now Obama has it in the bag..all he has to do is show up and talk about hope. Knock yourself out. It's over, right?

[apocalypsehow]

58. Mathematically, it is over. See below:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4772746


Sorry, math doesn't lie.

[RememberWellstone]

60. She will not quit

So what will you do when she does'nt? I can tell you she is not gonna quit. So what now?

[apocalypsehow]

63. It's not my problem if she wants to cripple her long-term legacy with such a foolish move.

n/t

[RememberWellstone]

75. How?

It won't affect her adversely no matter what you think. I think this is wishful thinking on your part.

[loveangelc]

76. she will be embarrassed by being forced out imo if she loses tx or oh

[RememberWellstone]

85. Who will force her out?

John Edwards was not forced out...it has to be a choice, she is not going anywhere.

[Johnny__Motown]

64. Counting delegates, she seems out to me

[SoFlaJet]

65. Just saw this Johnny LOL

Johnny__Motown (922 posts) Tue Feb-26-08 05:13 AM
Response to Original message
3. MEET ME IN GUAM AND LET'S HAVE A REAL DEBATE
wow that would be fun

[emilyg]

66. Absolutely right.

[Obamaniac]

70. It's not that "long" away from being over.

It's over a week from this Wednesday.

[RememberWellstone]

80. The great Kreskin

Nice to have you on board...any other great revelations from the Messiah?

[bridgit]

71. Ding! Houston, we have a snap-shot.

:thumbsup:

[Joe the Revelator]

74. Keep telling yourself that....the math tells a different story

nt

[RememberWellstone]

81. I am telling you that

Hillary is not leaving anytime soon...get over your calls for her to quit. It ain't gonna happen.

[Joe the Revelator]

83. Get back to me on March 5th Nostradamas

[cooolandrew]

82. Nope, not one chicken counted here. Work, work ,work Barack supporters.

[Mezzo]

84. I heard that on the news too...

He can't get to 2025 without something. We'll see...