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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:00 PM
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Dirty Tricks
This isn't how to do them. This is how to spot them. I am writing this, because I heard an individual whom I thought was sane and who has his own TV show speculate that a photo of Obama dressed in ethnic Kenyan garments that appeared online on the Drudge Report might actually have been planted there by the Clinton Campaign, as the Drudge Report claimed.

And I had to ask myself "Am I the only person who lived through the last thirty-five years in America? Did everyone else skip straight to here from 1964, when the ultimate in 'dirty attack ads' was the in your face simplicity of Daisy dying under a mushroom cloud?"

Here is the Bible of dirty tricks, written by Pat Buchanan, Richard Nixon's speech writer and campaign strategist in 1972.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/watergate/stories/buchananmemo.htm

"COVERT OPERATIONS -- We should have as many of these down there as needed to conduct harassment exercises, and embarrassment exercises for the Democrats. They should have no connection at all with the GOP Observation Post, and should be directed out of here, as they have been in the past.

"They should be able to help put demonstrations together, get leaflets out, start rumors, and generally foul up scheduled events -- and add to the considerable confusion and chaos that will inevitably exist."

It continued:

"The preparation of attacks on one Democrat by another -- and 'endorsements' of one Democrat by another, which has to be repudiated, are examples of what can be done. Nothing should be done here, incidentally, which can seriously backfire and anything done should be cleared by the highest campaign authority. The Secret Service, it should be noted, will be all over Miami; and any activity will have to take into consideration their capabilities.

"We should guard here against a) anything which enables the Democrats to blame us for the mess which takes place in Miami Beach; b) anything which can be traced back to us and c) anything which is so horrendous as to damage us, if the hand is discovered."


Karl Rove, who is directing this year's operations, studied under Nixon's CREEPY people in 1972. He knows all the old strategies and has invented a few new ones.

Here are the rules:

1. An anonymous smear of the candidate that portrays him or her in a way that would alarm voters in the general election comes from the Republicans, even if an anonymous source says it comes from the Democratic opponent. For instance, Democratic voters do not care if Obama has Muslim ties or not. Democrats elect Muslim candidates. Only Republicans and Independents in the general election will care. These smears are put out by Republicans to create an internal division within the Democratic Party to weaken the Party's chances in the fall. This is called the Phony Democratic attack against another Democrat .

2. An endorsement from a minister who reveals the very next day that he also runs an anti-gay program comes from the Republicans. I do not care how much the minister protests that he is innocent or how much people claim that the candidate is guilty. The minister was told, blackmailed or bribed to do it to make the Democratic candidate look bad with a Democratic constituency. This is called the Bad endorsement

3. Add in Corporate media bias to make whichever candidate is doing worse in the delegate count look better to improve his or her chances in upcoming primaries and you have Operation Brokered Democratic Convention or 1968 which I have been warning that the Republicans are trying to artificially engineer since last year.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:02 PM
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1. A lot of DUers were only too happy to believe Drudge.
I thought I had seen the limit of what people could call Hillary Clinton here, but today exceeded all expectations.

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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:07 PM
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3. Exactly. You'd think that by now people would know what Drudge is.
He managed to slur BOTH candidates in that one story. And some people on DU just lapped it up as if it were reported by Edward R. Murrow.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:04 PM
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2. Thank you
many people here use the term "Rovian" with no idea what it means.

They seem to think it's as simple as just "attack".
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:07 PM
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4. They don't understand the intent
Two Democrats with one stone. Infighting. Whatever the fuck you want to call it.
I'd believe Drudge on the same day that I believed Rush or O'Lielly.
Scumbags...all of them.
Anyone that believes that shit is just plain stupid.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:33 PM
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5. Wow. It's one thing to know they do it, another to see it in writing - even
more chilling. And what is MOST alarming, is that we're falling for this crap.

I hope every DUer reads this - Recommend!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:36 PM
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6. Yup... Remember these shenanigans? - 'George W. Bush's back-door political machine'
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 11:40 PM by Breeze54
The Apparat

By Jerry Landay
March 18, 2004

George W. Bush's back-door political machine

It's anti-democratic, anti-Constitutional, and is working to create a one-party America


http://www.mediatransparency.org/story.php?storyID=18


A mighty megaphone

excerpt:

Just as Democratic Senator John Kerry emerged as his party's leading contender for its presidential nomination in late January, he immediately became fair game for the right's "scandal pot."

Much of what has ensued is reminiscent of Richard Nixon's infamous "plumbers" unit, the dirty-tricks squad that operated out of the White House that destroyed his presidency.

The opening salvo of the 2004 plumbing season was to distribute photographs faked to show Jane Fonda and Kerry ostensibly appearing at the same peace rally.

Another mudslinging campaign was designed to entrap Kerry in a fabricated sex scandal. It began with a planted "story" on the Drudge Report,
designed to be picked up by the British press, with the intention that it would "bounce back" into the American media. Ironically, the US media wouldn't touch the story, but neither did it expose the right's failed methods.

As if on cue, a bevy of conservative-front columnists from the Washington Post to the Champaign News-Gazette opened a coordinated attack against Kerry and his key supporters.

Leading the way was a website operated by the HeritageAnn Coulter Foundation, Townhall.com, which prominently displays the work of the venomous Ann Coulter.

Coulter had earlier upbraided former Senator Max Cleland of Georgia, a war hero and paraplegic who lost three limbs in the Vietnam War.

Cleland had committed the sin (to Coulter) of publicly questioning the military record of George W. Bush. Coulter attacked with characteristic malice and hyperbole. She wrote that Cleland was "lucky" to have had his limbs blown off. She went on to assault liberals who "have suddenly become jock-sniffers for war veterans."

Cleland was already aware of how the right's attack machine works. He had lost his Senate seat in Georgia in 2002 after the Republicans ran ads juxtaposing his face with those of Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.

Also, the chairman of the GOP faxed doctored Congressional testimony to the press to create the false impression that Wesley Clark had supported the Iraqi war.

A "tidal wave of sewage," indeed.

Besides hosting Ann Coulter, Townhall.com serves as a web portal for more than 70 nationally syndicated columnists of the radical right, ranging from former Gingrich spokesman Tony Blankley to former Jesse Helms speech writer George Will. There is no comparable website on the left. The hailstorm of polemics generated by Townhall.com serves as the daily grist for the hundreds of talk-show hosts who have tilted the American airwaves sharply rightward.

A John Kerry spokesman described the result:

"From Rush Limbaugh to Sean Hannity to Laura Ingraham to Saxby Chamblis to the RNC, you can't turn on a TV or a radio without seeing a systematic, coordinated attack on John Kerry."

The positioning of these right wing operatives within the "mainstream" media surely puts the lie to the old "liberal media" canard, which despite its demonstrable falsity is still standard cant for the conservative propaganda mill. This myth serves to divert attention from the stunning dominance of the right wing in media.


snip-->

Abusing and using the media

The apparat's media-attack organizations are charged with keeping journalists in line, mobilizing the base to wage harassment campaigns against media organizations and reporters they dub as too "liberal."
Journalists who dare criticize the Administration are priority targets for abuse. For that reason, among others, Americans learn almost nothing from mainstream media about the apparat, whose media-attack operations effectively silenced Hillary Clinton's charges of a "vast right-wing conspiracy" operating against her husband's administration.

In an essay critiquing the news media for its massive failures in the run up to the Iraq war, Michael Massing wrote in The New York Review of Books that reporters who wrote articles unfavorable of Bush received "tons" of hate mail and threats questioning their patriotism. Massing wrote:

"Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and The Weekly Standard, among others, all stood ready to pounce on journalists who strayed, branding them liberals and traitors -- labels that could permanently damage a career."

More.... very long but educational article.


Thanks for posting this timely article, McCamy Taylor.

:kick: & Recommended

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:43 PM
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7. Exactly. It was a wonderful bit of smearing all the way around, based on a RWrag's rumor.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:08 PM
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15. Thanks for directing me...
to your post. I didn't realize that anyone in this viper-pit had actually pointed out the true skunks in the woodpile on some of these smears and accusations.

Excuse me now, while I make a dash for the exit, before some of this angst and antagonizing rubs off.

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:48 PM
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8. kicking... many here need to read about this....
:dem:
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candymarl Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:11 AM
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9. Thank you
I came to the same conclusion. While we Democrats fight among ourselves the Republicans slide home.

This would kill Hillary's chances in the upcoming primaries.

Hillary may be evil but she's not stupid.:sarcasm:
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:27 AM
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10. There really ought to be a place for these posts...
Where they could be rec'd and read by the people who are blocking GDP from the Greatest Page.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:32 AM
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11. Only problem is that several reporters and pundits have reported the Clinton people shopping the
photo around to them with a note attached "You wouldn't let Hillary get away with this without scrutiny."

I know you like to diffuse some of the nasty tricks Clinton is using by not considering the actual evidence, but this isn't the first time this has come up:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FD9068C7-4360-4387-AF68-CDB0A3A1EFCD.htm
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13820.html
http://www.americablog.com/2007/12/clinton-ally-repeats-muslims-slur-about.html
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 06:59 AM
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12. Speak of these things, get called paranoid, sometimes by team.
This is more than just today's story -this is the entire history of DU, the net is just another playground to these people.
Many of the most troublesome Duers might know a trick or two.

Yes, this should be a part of DU activist or glossary.
I could almost write a fucking book on it...
double teaming
Parlocking
Double pass
honeypots
extended leaks
limited hangout
Buchanon, Segretti, Atwater, Rove, Stone, norquist, Reed....
mk ultra
paperclip
bluebird
cable splicer
allll the grrrreatest hits......
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:07 AM
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13. Like Buchanan on Morning Joe today..
"I don't think Matt (Drudge) would say it if it wasn't true"!

To which Matt Drudge do you think he was referring? :shrug:
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:55 PM
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14. Creating controlled chaos has always been a right wing speciality...
and KKKarl has become a master at it; his putrid stench has been dripping from much of the campaign conflict, so far this time round. Those who cannot recognize that reek have become mere tools of the reactionary force.

However, I do feel that our candidates are beholden to their pet corporatist interests, all on their own, no matter how effective the MSM is at manipulating the impressions, polls, and popularity to sway feelings. Breaking away from the standards of repressive, profit-oriented policies has certainly not been a feature of either of our current stumpers' platforms and eliminating those Democrats who did hold progressive ideals was accomplished quite effectively, early on, so whatever dissatisfactions might reach a boiling point come August or November will be a direct result of the right-leaning tendencies of this entire system of ours, both parties included, without the guidance of any rethug needed.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:15 PM
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16. unfortunately, there is one easy way "we" could defuse much of this
If one candidate drops out.

"3. Add in Corporate media bias to make whichever candidate is doing worse in the delegate count look better to improve his or her chances in upcoming primaries and you have Operation Brokered Democratic Convention or 1968 which I have been warning that the Republicans are trying to artificially engineer since last year."

I think there is currently a candidate who has less money, has lost the last 11 contests, and is behind in delegates, but I cannot remember which candidate it is.

Hey, I know I didn't want to hear it when that candidate was Edwards. I certainly wanted him to keep going past my caucus on Super Tuesday and maybe long enough to get 500 delegates, so even if he didn't get the nomination, he could be kingmaker (or queenmaker). I wouldn't want to hear it if that candidate was Obama either, since I have hated the Clintons since Bill came on the scene in 1992 and ran as a moderate Republican. But the writing seems to be on the wall, and the sooner more people accept it, even if it breaks their heart, the sooner we can take a few weapons out of their hands.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:19 PM
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17. Remember the ones who leapt at it as the TRUTH,
they will be the same ones screaming the loudest when Drudge starts presenting his 'facts' about Obama. I hope they won't be too dismayed when many choose not to rush to defend BO.

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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:32 PM
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18. Yep.
And I will not be above saying "I told you so."

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