Clinton Supporter Stabs Obama Supporter

[Jersey Devil]

We knew the question of health care mandates was divisive, but not this divisive. Prosecutors in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, says that “two brothers-in-law” got into such a heated debate over Barack and Hillary that one stabbed the other. Naturally, the Clinton supporter — or should we say, Clinton surrogate? — was the stabber.

The debate got out of hand when these brothers-in-law tried to “settle the presidential race on the kitchen floor of a Collegeville, Pa. home.” Hey, as long as they settle it somewhere, soon:

More - http://wonkette.com/360437/clinton-supporter-stabs-obama-supporter

Judging by today's posts I don't think some of the posters here are too far from this story.

[villager]

1. at first, I thought this was a parody of where DU is clearly headed....

Good God, I guess not.

[joeybee12]

2. Always avoid discussing sex, politics and religion...

...if you want to keep the peace.

[Labors of Hercules]

3. Woa there Devil...

I'll be the first to admit some Hillary supporters are homicidal, but lets not go so far as to assume they are any more likely to be the stabber in this scenario.

[SammyWinstonJack]

7. wtf?

I'll be the first to admit some Hillary supporters are homicidal... :wtf:

[Renew Deal]

10. Now that is insane.

:wow:

[psychopomp]

22. Holy s*** I didn't catch that at first

It's so over-the-top that it actually made me laugh. "Silly season" is right!

[Labors of Hercules]

44. Holy shit! someone with a sense of HUMOR!

Some people really can't take a joke, or even recognize one for that matter...

[Jersey Devil]

15. That was just Wonkette stirring the pot, not my comment

You have to admit though, no matter which side you're on, it's getting a bit too wacky.

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[Occam Bandage]

6. Trashy and false? It's true. A Clinton supporter stabbed an Obama supporter. It's meaningless,

but it's not false.

[Jersey Devil]

14. Maybe he had a hard time making bail?

:rofl:

[Hugabear]

9. False post?

The OP headline might have been provocative, but doesn't change the fact that this actually happened.

[Jersey Devil]

11. Are you from PA?

Collegeville maybe?

Here's another link to this "false post" from a Phillie radio station:

http://www.kyw1060.com/pages/1713466.php?contentType=4&contentId=1619166

[Barack_America]

24. And the Clinton supporter is a registered Republican. Interesting.

Also, if they bring this to trial before November, he won't be able to vote.

"1 Montco Brother-in-Law Stabs Another in Voting Dispute

by KYW's Brad Segall

The race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination continues to heat up -- but in one Montgomery County, Pa. household, the debate turned violent.

Prosecutors say that two brothers-in-law tried to settle the presidential race on the kitchen floor of a Collegeville, Pa. home.

Jose Ortiz, 28, is now behind bars on felony assault charges after prosecutors say he stabbed Sean Shurelds inside a home in the 100 block of Honeylocust Court.

District attorney Risa Ferman says a heated debate over the candidates escalated into violence:

"One is a supporter of Barack Obama, the other is a supporter of Hillary Clinton, and an argument of words turned bloody when one brother-in-law tried to choke the other and the victim then responded with a knife and stabbed his brother-in-law in the stomach.”

Shurelds was taken to the hospital in critical condition. Ortiz is jailed in lieu of $20,000 bail. Police found the knife in the dishwasher.

If Ortiz is convicted of the felony charge, he won’t be able to vote. And voter registration records reveal that Ortiz, who supports Clinton, is registered Republican."

http://www.kyw1060.com/pages/1713466.php?contentType=4&contentId=1619166

[NDambi]

36. It's true...

http://wcbstv.com/watercooler/clinton.obama.stabbing.2.662249.html

[Bongo Prophet]

38. It appears to be true, but the point to take from this is, we need to all cool down a bit.

It could have easily been the other way around - that is beside the point to me.
He almost killed a relative over this. If nothing else, think of the family, and perhaps their kids.

No Obama supporters should gloat over it, but we should all take it as a lesson in escalation, and the damage that it can do.

[burythehatchet]

5. ...and in keeping with campaign prtocol, the Clinton supporter

expressed his deep gratitude for being in the same family as his victim, prior to stabbing him.

[JohnnyLib2]

8. Disturbing story. So far, I'm only aware of "cyber-bullying" here.

Anonymity has it's merits, maybe?

[Metric System]

12. "Naturally, the Clinton supporter — or should we say, Clinton surrogate? — was the stabber." Can you

imagine the outrage if this was said about Obama supporters? And you can bet racism would be brought into it too.

[Jersey Devil]

17. Maybe you should write a nasty letter to Wonkette

She is the one who made that comment

[rug]

13. You should point out the Obama supporter first tried to strangle the Hillary supporter.

http://www.kyw1060.com/pages/1713466.php?contentType=4&contentId=1619166

Clear case of self-defense.

[Jersey Devil]

18. LOL, and I like this touch, from the newspaper story

"Police found the knife in the dishwasher."

Now I want to know who was the anal retentive neat freak? The Clinton supporter or the Obama supporter?

[maximusveritas]

29. So why is the stabber the only one being charged?

My guess is that they were both fighting equally, but the Clinton supporter escalated things and crossed the line by grabbing the knife.

[rug]

30. But the Obama supporter escalated it by calling her a bitch.

[grantcart]

48. as everyone knows police are sexist

[LTR]

16. What usernames are they using on DU?

[damntexdem]

19. More evidence that ...

we need healthcare reform: treatment for the stabee; mental health treatment for the stabber.

No, I won't attribute it to a campaign.

But what we really will not need would be any Clinton knives in the back of an Obama campaign after the convention.

[Khaotic]

20. Somehow this image comes to mind

In this instance the psycho would be dressed up like Hillary!

[Jersey Devil]

21. ROFL, Jeezus, it's nuts enough in here

I just want to know who decided to clean the knife in the dishwasher.

[rug]

23. Neither. Drudge planted it to make them both look bad.

[Jersey Devil]

26. Maybe we can convince the mods on a good practical joke

and get them to send all the Obama dressed up in Muslim clothes (actually I think they are tribal clothes and not Muslim clothes but at this point who cares?) over to the Photography Group Forum.

How in the world could we get so many posts on the same subject with a limit of 3 new strings per day per poster?

[goldcanyonaz]

25. Naturally, the Clinton supporter was the stabber? wtf is that supposed to mean?

More unbiased journalism.

[Jersey Devil]

28. You don't read Wonkette normally, do you?

She is, well, let' just say "mischievous"

[Catherine Vincent]

33. She is a he. nt

[Lone_Star_Dem]

27. I'm just glad GD:P posters aren't armed with more than a keyboard.

I mean, that's bad enough, but knives...GDP would be a bloodbath. :scared:

[Forkboy]

31. Quick, someone get Mags!!!!

We finally have a post as dumb as his.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4762741&mesg_id=4762741

[stark6935]

34. hi

I found this site on hillaryclinton.com (www.howtostabanObamasupporter.com)

[quakerboy]

32. I figured on a parody

What, the writers are back off strike. why with the reality programming still?


From the article:
"This violent surrogate of Clinton’s may be stripped of his most important American right, too:
If Ortiz is convicted of the felony charge, he won’t be able to vote. And voter registration records reveal that Ortiz, who supports Clinton, is registered Republican."

So much irony. Dripping from every pore of this unfortunate event. Barack guy chokes Hillary guy. Hillary guy stabs Barack guy. Then puts the knife in a dishwasher. Hillary guy may loose his vote because of it. Hillary guy is a Republican. Fish in a Barrel no matter what direction you are coming to it from.

[catgirl]

35. Of course it's the Clinton supporter doing the stabbing

Sorry, I haven't read the article yet- don't even know if it's a true story.

[Barack_America]

41. It appears to be a true story.

It's being reported in our local news.

http://www.nbc10.com/news/15404993/detail.html?dl=headlineclick

NORRISTOWN, Pa. -- Montgomery County authorities said a man stabbed his brother-in-law during an argument over who should get the Democratic nomination for president.

What's more, 28-year-old Jose Ortiz, who's charged with felony assault, is a registered Republican.

District Attorney Risa Ferman said Ortiz supports Hillary Rodham Clinton and Sean Shurelds supports Barack Obama.

Ferman told reporters Monday that the two men got into an argument in a Collegeville home Thursday night and Shurelds tried to choke Ortiz. She said Ortiz then stabbed Shurelds in the abdomen.

Shurelds was taken to a hospital in critical condition but expected to recover.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

[billyoc]

37. An interesting campaign strategy, but I suppose they've tried everything else... nt

[Redstone]

39. "...or should we say, Clinton surrogate?" I sure HOPE you were joking.

Redstone

[Barack_America]

43. It's true.

See post #41.

[Redstone]

46. Uh, no. "Supporter" does not equal "surrogate."

Redstone

[Barack_America]

49. Um, the STORY is true.

Hence my pointing out where you could read more about it.

[Redstone]

50. I knew the story was true. I was questioning the OP's use of the word "surrogate." Also, I used to

live in and around Norristown, PA, and I have to say I'm NOT surprised that's where it happened.

Redstone

[scheming daemons]

40. HillCamp spin: Obama supporter throws self in front of innocent Hillary supporter's knife....

[THUNDER HANDS]

42. and then the Nader brother came in and stabbed them both

:hide:

[ecstatic]

45. It's true. MSNBC reported it earlier and here's another link

http://www.timesleader.com/news/ap?articleID=407481

[DemGa]

47. Some people REALLY can't handle that passive aggressive routine...LOL...nt

[TexasLady]

51. My sister is voting for Hillary

I support her decision because I support her. We kiddingly joke about it. We both know that we will both support the eventual nominee in the end. Course, I might have to give her an extra birthday spanking if Hillary wins.:evilgrin: