Clinton Supporters; If She Loses To Obama, Would You Consider

[SoFlaJet]

voting for Ralph Nader over Barack Obama?

[Colobo]

1. I hope they don't. That is like voting for McCain.

[SoFlaJet]

3. I know for me, an ex-Edwards-now Obama guy

that if Clinton was to somehow win I'd have a Hillary sign on MY front lawn-I will NOT be fooled into voting against my own best interests and I HOPE every single Clinton supporter here would do the same for Obama

[shadowknows69]

2. If they would they have no place on this discussion board

And neither does this question. IBTL.

[SoFlaJet]

5. Oh really now?

I saw a bunch of replies in threads for the last 2 months that make this a VERY legitimate question, so if you don't like it you don't have to respond.

[SoFlaJet]

12. here look at my thread from yesterday's hot and heavy infighting

and tell me that it isn't a legitimate concern

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4728561

[shadowknows69]

18. Not saying it isn't a concern

But DU rules would make it nearly impossible to contribute here. During an election period at least I guess I should have said.

[seaglass]

46. Have you ever considered that when you wrote that asinine post

yesterday that people might have reacted in anger?

[Tom Rinaldo]

4. No. I want McCain to lose. Just like I wanted Bush to lose n/t

[terrya]

6. No, no, no, a thousand times no.

I'm ashamed to admit that I voted for Nader in 2000. There, I admitted it. Believe me, I don't like to own up to it.

I wasted my vote in 2000. I will not, under any circumstances vote for Nader. I will vote for Obama if he's the nominee.

[SoFlaJet]

7. I think it's a very legitimate

?-judging from a lot of things said by Clinton supporters over the last 2 months

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. no, why do you thnk we are idiots?

[SoFlaJet]

9. I read a dozen different posters here yesterday

saying they wouldn't vote for Obama no matter what and they were called on it too and told they would NOT be able to push that shit here

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. even before the primaries began people swore they would NEVER vote for clinton

there always be a small number of idiots.

[comradebillyboy]

38. seems like a double standard to me since

I have seen so many Obama supporters claim that they would never support Clinton under any circumstance. Does that say something about who the DU mods back? not accusing, just asking

[SoFlaJet]

41. who?

show me some examples-I showed mine in the thread link I posted-just because you choose to SAY something doesn't make it true-what does your girl say? Oh yeas words DO matter

[comradebillyboy]

55. check out

post 4 in this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4742378

look at posts 2, 14 and 15 in this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x47

If you are not blinded by your own biases you should have noticed many many more since they are in a substantial number of posts in GD-P.

My girl? are you referring to the 60 yr old distinguished democratic senator from New York as a "girl"? What a sexist asshole you are.

[SoFlaJet]

60. Wow Billy that's the first one I've seen

the 2nd link has only one message in it and the other one has been deleted

[GCP]

67. SoFlaJet - examples you asked for

Obama supporters who wouldn't vote for Hillary - from today.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4743482

[DFW]

10. I'm undecided, but my answer is: NEVER

No way José. NYET. I'm voting for the Democratic nominee, and if it's
Obama, then he gets my vote gladly. Same goes for Hillary, if she gets
the nomination.

[redstate_democrat]

11. Hell no

Chelsea Clinton could be the Democratic nominee and I would vote for her over Nadar. Voting for that guy is basically handing McINSANE (bomb bomb bomb) the election. GOD that is frightening!

[NOLALady]

13. I've read posts that said they would not vote for Obama

if nominated.

They were mostly low count posters and/or folks who'd joined recently, usually with no profile. My guess is they are trolls/freeps.

I can't imagine anyone who's genuinely interested in this country would enable a Republican candidate.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

14. The Hillary Side Is Filled Mostly With Really Intelligent, Thoughtful And Objective People.

Of course we wouldn't!

[SoFlaJet]

15. that's good to hear from you

I had my doubts as to what your answer would be-there are a few others I'd like to hear HONESTLY chime in

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. If You Had Doubts About My Answer, Then Your Perception Is Pathetic.

I have said countless times how much I support Obama and how excited I am for him. It is also quite clear that I hate nader. For you for a second to have had doubts about my answer, means you have a monumentally skewed perception and have total blinders on as it relates to the things people post here.

[SoFlaJet]

21. really?

check my thread link I posted above from yesterday-so you are an Obama supporter over Clinton? Damn I guess then that all the Clinton people who have been saying we Obama people are assholes have a case after all

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

28. Wow, Your Perception Is Really Off.

Supporting Obama and being excited for him does not mean I don't also support Hillary and am excited for her as well. And I never called Obama people assholes. Some of them are intelligent, thoughtful and sincere. But here, there are quite a few on his side that are in fact assholes. Blatant assholes. Blatant childish assholes in fact.

And again, if you had any accurate perception whatsoever, ability to reason, think and pay attention to things around you, you should've more than known by now that I wholeheartedly support both nominees. The fact that for a second you had doubts as to what my answer would be means you either pay no attention here or are so blind in your perception that you only see what you want to see and then twist it into oblivion.

[SoFlaJet]

31. no my "asshole perception meter"

is in tact and working just fine-in fact it's buzzing right now as I look at the person's post I'm responding to

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

40. I Have No Problem With Being An Asshole.

I'd prefer that over being a closed minded ignorant fool any day. :hi:

Try and pay more attention here. The fact you doubted for a second how I would've responded to this thread means you have all sorts of issues as it relates to detail, objectivity, and perception. You should really work on that, so that in the future you don't look as much like a total fool.

[SoFlaJet]

43. "No Problem With Being An Asshole"...and you're really good at it too

show me how I'm "being a closed minded ignorant fool" I think I'd rather be a fool than a person with a superiority complex like you are in every single reply you make to people that don't agree with you OR your tactics on your so deep as to be undetectable agenda-I don't care to look too deeply into your mindcrime

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

48. You Already Showed Yourself How, By Stating You Thought In A Million Years I'd Have Chosen Otherwise

That shows you to be a complete closed minded ignorant fool, because I have dozens of posts here declaring my support and excitement for both candidates. The fact is, you see what you want to see. You have lost all sense of objectivity and critical thinking skills. You are so entrenched in your sports mentality like obsession with your candidate that you can't comprehend for a second that someone could support a candidate, and still have the objectivity to offer criticism. You can't perceive for a moment, that if someone isn't sporting an obama avatar and acting like a grade school child throwing insult after insult at Hillary supporters, that they could in fact still be an Obama supporter. You see things from your little narrow bubble of ignorance and don't have what it takes to peek outside of it.

To anyone with any intellect or reasoning skills it is beyond apparent that I support both candidates in this race and am excited no matter what for November. Get your head out of your ass, and next time maybe you'll notice. :hi:

[SoFlaJet]

52. all this bullshit aside between two people who obviously don't like each other

who DO you support, Clinton or Obama-you have had to, or HAVE had to vote for only one...which one? Or is it Nader or McCain?

[casus belli]

54. My prediciton for Nader this time -- .05% n/t

[Ravy]

16. No way.

I am less than excited about Obama, I respect much more Clinton overall, but not in her camp either.

McCain and Nader are both intolerable to me. McCain because of his positions, Nader because of the damage he did to the US in the 2000 election and 2004 election.

[ruggerson]

20. I think there are very few Clinton voters who would support Nader

why don't you ask the question in reverse as well?

[SoFlaJet]

23. post a thread and ask yourself

I added my reply if the question were to be reversed

[ruggerson]

30. What's with the snark?

I answered your question.

[SoFlaJet]

32. sorry ruggerson

I watched Raging Bull last night after work and I felt like Jake LaMotta throwing the fight to Robinson-taking hits left and right has made me a little punch drunk

[LibraLiz1973]

22. Ewww

[SoFlaJet]

24. what's up wit dat Liz

my fellow lovely Libran? Why an "EWW" when posting a pic of these two great democrats?

[LibraLiz1973]

58. It was an Eww in answer to the question

[BlackVelvet04]

25. Worried? n/t

[SoFlaJet]

26. yea maybe a little

concerned would better way to describe it-and your answer to the question of if no Hillary would YOU consider voting for Nader over Obama?

[BlackVelvet04]

27. I've said repeatedly I will write Hillary's name in....

That still stands. I've never been a Nader fan. I remember working for the NHTSA back when it was NHTSA and Nader's Raiders would come in the office trying to steal stuff....they were thugs. Wow, that dates me.

[SoFlaJet]

29. you see now THAT is idiotic

I'm sorry it just is...you may as well stay home in November and save the gas instead of wasting your time, money and vote on a person who is out of it. I would NEVER do that and I'm not crazy about Clintonm-but as a democrat I would vote for her over McCain and Nader

[BlackVelvet04]

37. Now see....

I don't care what you think about it. What I do with my time, money and vote really isn't your business.

[SoFlaJet]

39. yea but I think this SITE cares

as a vote for a candidate not even on the ballot is the same as a vote against the democratic nominee and essentially the same thing as a vote FOR McCain

[BlackVelvet04]

42. Well, I guess this site will have to kick me off...

won't they? Hillary is STILL a candidate at this point, I'll worry about D.U.'s opinion if she isn't the nominee and I write in her name if and when that happens. I don't sweat the small shit.

And NO it's not a vote for McCain....a vote for McCain is a vote for McCain. And just to save you some time, I don't DO guilt. Nice try, though.

Have a great day.

[SoFlaJet]

44. you too

;p

[tabasco]

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[tamzins]

33. Gov. Strickland of Ohio promises to deliver win for Hillary

Don't write Hillary off just yet. She's like a cockroach that doesn't die after you spray a whole can of Raid on it. Gov. Strickland who's hoping to snag a VP slot if Clinton wins, is promising to deliver her the vote in Ohio. Might be easy to do it courtesy of Diebold machines which are being used in Ohio Primary.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080222/pl_bloomberg/atroxlyknsu

[SoFlaJet]

36. BWAAAHHHHHHH

funny...welcome (back?) to DU

[InvisibleTouch]

34. Absolutely not. n/t

[comradebillyboy]

35. I would never vote for Nader unless

he buys me a luxury SUV, fully loaded. Top of the line Acura or Lexus would do very nicely. Maybe he could throw in a really nice Beretta over/under shotgun, since I have recently taken up skeet shooting.

[OzarkDem]

45. No way, I'm a Democrat

I only vote for Democrats even if I know they're going to lose.

[jillan]

47. No way.

[Straight Shooter]

49. Stupid question. n/t

[PresidentObama]

50. This represents the worst of DU. And the answer is no, I'll vote for Obama. Proudly.

[SoFlaJet]

56. to you and straight shooter-look here and then tell me

why it's such an undeserving and stupid thread..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4743449

[PresidentObama]

57. Tellurian doesn't represent the Hillary supporters on DU.

Just like the select few of Obama supporters who wouldn't ever vote for Hillary--they're in the minority!

[SoFlaJet]

59. I respectfully disagree

I haven't seen any Obamamians who have said they wouldn't support Clinton I jus haven't I would still like to see some examples-nobody has shown any

[OmahaBlueDog]

51. HELL NO!

I vote with our nominee. Period. End of sentence.

[calico1]

53. While I am undecided as to whether to give

Obama my vote, I am POSITIVELY SURE I would NEVER vote for Nader.

[fishwax]

61. The "If x wins the nomination, I'm staying home/voting for y/writing in z" theme pops up whenever a

given candidate is down. In the early primary season, the theme comes mostly from those who support candidates that pretty much everyone knows don't have a shot at the nomination (Kucinich, Gravel, etc.). It's (a) an expression of frustration that the cards are stacked against their candidate and (b) a reflection of the fact that the only real way we can "threaten" the party is by withholding our vote in the general election. In the middle stage, when Clinton was still expected to be coronated, we saw it a fair amount from Obama supporters, as a way of rallying support for the emerging contender.

In the final stages, you see it from candidates whose backs are against the wall. I remember a couple of "If Obama or Hillary wins, I'm staying home" posts from disappointed Edwards supporters. It's no surprise that now, as HRC's campaign is facing the end of the line if they can't pull out big wins a week from Tuesday, it's no surprise to see such posts multiply from frustrated Clinton supporters. If the roles were reversed, and Oct. 3 looked like Obama's last stand, rather than Clinton's, I have no doubt that we'd be seeing more such posts from Obama folk.

I think the overwhelming number of HRC supporters, especially those on DU, will be getting behind the democratic nominee. Some may be telling the truth when they say they'll stay home or vote for nader or write in HRC's name, but I think for the most part it's an expression of frustration. Given how much time, energy, and money many people have invested into the contest, and how high emotions have run on both sides, I think that's understandable ...

[Maven]

62. No. Never.

That said, I don't think I can support Obama either.

[Raydawg1234]

63. shut the fuck up. So you want to hand the presidency back to the repubs.

guess you care more about 'your candidate' than the country.

[L0oniX]

64. From Hillary to a clown?

[GCP]

65. Never

I'll never vote for Nader, I'll never forgive him and his narcissism for Gore losing in 2000, then taking money from pukes to try and run against Kerry in 04.
Of course I'll vote for whoever the Dem is, and that includes Obama.

[SKKY]

68. Let me say this one more time...

...I will be voting for the Democratic Parties nominee.

[NastyRiffraff]

69. Well, now that you've managed to insult good Democrats with a broad brush

Because a FEW on BOTH SIDES have said they wouldn't vote for the Democratic nominee if it weren't their choice of candidate, I'll weigh in.

No. Absolutely not. I will vote (reluctantly) for Obama. I'd never vote for Nader, ever.