anyone watching Mark Penn on BookTV?

[Syrinx]

I've only watched a few minutes of it, but the premise for the book he is discussing seems crazy.

His message is basically "Educated people are dumber than ignorant people."

:crazy:

[JI7]

1. that's from less than 2 weeks ago

what exactly is the campaign paying him millions for ?

[Syrinx]

3. I wonder

But I don't know.

[MadBadger]

2. And those edumucated people are voting for Obama.

[Bongo Prophet]

5. As well as this self edumacated voter. Microtrend, indeed.

Please don't go into the class jabs at how dumb those without formal degrees may be. It is my experience that wisdom comes in many forms, learning styles are diverse and multi-modal, and human dignity and respect are deserved across a wide spectrum of this species of ours.

Many Obama supporters get sucked into this trap, and it hurts our common cause.

[Bongo Prophet]

4. Hey Syrinx - I have that in my dvr buffer right now! My take on that....

He said those of higher education/income are insulated from the same concerns and issues that less educated/lower incomes have to deal with.
therefore they are more interested in personality differences than issues.

Less educated (not ignorant!) people HAVE to deal with the REAL, and so issues matter greatly to them (ME) and personlaity is of less importance in the overall.

This makes sense to me.

I am uneducated in the formal sense, having my college opportunities robbed when right wing assholes ripped my dad's pension down to 10% of its worth. Stuff happens, you know? I am as a result, somewhat poor, Syrinx, but am hardly ignorant or worth less.

I am sure you would agree with that, as your humanity trumps bullshit artists like Penn, doing his "state the obvious 20 years late" Thomas Friedman schtick.:hi:

[Syrinx]

6. great points as always!

I think you would make a better spokesman for Senator Clinton than Mark Penn!

:hi:

[Bongo Prophet]

7. No way i could turn that train around - would have to go back a few decades.

Time machine required.
Makes it impractical, for sure!

Each person a microtrend unto themselves - actually a combination of individual choices, once measured, can be categorized into nano-, micro- mini- and mega- trends. It is all a self-fulfilling way of describing a diverse and large pool of primates in a consumerist culture.

One could invision a game built on this premise.

A final irony, Penn is having a hard time collecting enough "microtrenders" (jeez, he actually used that term seriously) into a macro-coalition of voters. It could be seen as a telling sign of his own self regard, and how that might impact his strategy in the Clnton campaign.

Thanks for bringing this up - i am finishing his Q&A right now. My distaste for Mr Blackwater aside, microcultures and other sociological aspects are quite interesting to me.