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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:25 PM
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http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor /

In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama's life as a "secret smoker" and how he "went to great lengths to conceal the habit." But what about Obama's secret political life? It turns out that Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.

In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a "hard-core academic Marxist," which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes.

However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:27 PM
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1. Right Wing Swiftboat of Obama = Hillary Swiftboat of Obama for now. n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:27 PM
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2. Thanks for sharing Mr. McCarthy
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:28 PM
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6. LOL!
:snark: snort
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:27 PM
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3. Herman, I believe you're bordering on officially being in the wrong forum. Seriously. What
good do you think this is going to do? Where will you go when Obama wins the nomination, after you've posted every right wing communist and racist smear you can find about him. If he bothers you that much, maybe you should stop reading the forum. Really.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:40 PM
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12. What will be the answer when such smears come?
Because they will.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:42 PM
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17. 1950 just called. They were wondering where Joe McCarthy went.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:14 PM
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25. Yup. Chanting "hope and change" can only go so far
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:30 PM
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37. As if that was all he was doing
Obama seems to handle smears just fine. In fact, he's been doing damn well with it. I know you're dying to see his downfall, but you're just in for more disappointment. Too bad for you and other hillbots. Don't hold your breath waiting for the wheels to come off Obama's campaign, you should be more concerned about Hilly.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:33 PM
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41. Only one smear has been circulated against him and he hasn't dealt with it yet
There are still many people who think he is a radical Muslim.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:26 PM
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29. the answer will be bfd
wha goddaman cares about this crap? no one.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:49 PM
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18. He can help source for R Limbaugh
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:27 PM
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4. 
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:20 PM
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49. AIM was founded by rightwing extremist Reed Irvine, friend of white supremacists and neo-nazis:
Council of Conservative Citizens

... Background: Established by former activists in the segregationist White Citizens' Councils
Ideology: White supremacy, white separatism ...

In fact, the CCC has enjoyed connections with public officials at every level ... Other prominent .. political figures have attended meetings or addressed the group, including .. media figures like .. Accuracy In Media head Reed Irvine ...

http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/CCCitizens.asp?xpicked=...


White Supremacists in the Closet
Posted May 12, 2005 | 04:55 PM (EST)

... One of Americas leading white supremacist publications is a magazine called American Renaissance. Its editor, Jared Taylor, is a self-proclaimed racialist and outspoken critic of interracial marriage ...

Make no mistake about it. American Renaissance isnt insensitive. Its racist. In 1997 the magazine ran a glowing tribute to Madison Grant, the long-deceased author of "The Passing of the Great Race (1916), a pseudo-science tract -- highly popular in its day -- that blasted interracial marriages and championed eugenics, all in the service of preserving white racial integrity. The American Renaissance article casually observed that when Grant was in his scholarly prime, just as it does today, the American identity faced a two-pronged threat: a large influx of aliens and the presence of a large, Negro element ...

One wonders why commissioning work by Jared Taylor is any better than commissioning work by, say, Joseph Goebbels.

Apparently this question doesnt keep Reed Irvine up at night. Irvine, the old conservative stalwart who founded Accuracy in Media (AIM) and its sister organization, Accuracy in Academia, invited Taylor to serve as a guest lecturer at a couple of AIM conferences and has reverentially cited Taylor in his AIM Report ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joshua-zeitz/white-suprem...





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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:24 PM
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51. "... AIM has also supported the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). In 1984, syndicated columnist
Jack Anderson wrote articles that exposed the death squad affiliations of the Latin American Anti-Communist Confederation (CAL), a member of WACL ...

AIM has been a prominent supporter of the Chilean Lobby in the past. The Chilean Lobby supported the military government under Augusto Pinochet that came into power through a coup in 1973 ...

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/gw/1488.html
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:27 PM
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5. Impossibe. The new "unity" politics will prevent this from happening...nt
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:30 PM
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7. LOL
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:34 PM
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8. Mr. Obama do you know or have ever known any member of the Communist Party.
Give me a break this is so 1950s.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:35 PM
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9. The Hillbots are revealing their true nature. They have lost on the issues and are now making it per
sonal. Hey Hillary supporters, there is always 2016!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:35 PM
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10. ah good extra swiftboating... staring to feel like 2004 now
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:39 PM
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Do you have a list in your hand of 57 known commies in the Obama campaign?
:rofl:

Nice try.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:40 PM
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15. i've got a list of 23...
;)
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:39 PM
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11. You won't be allowed to post your vile spewings when Obama gets the nomination.
That day can't come soon enough.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:40 PM
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14. Herman will eventually have to leave his mom's basement one day.
That day can't come soon enough either.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:40 PM
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13. hookay coulter....next?
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:41 PM
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16. OMG!! Marxist literature!!
Hell, I read Marx when I was 15 in 1965. Also read the Bible about that time and a few hundred other books. So fuckin' what??
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:53 PM
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19. don't think this will work as ALL Dems are Communists
to the RW-been happening forever.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:59 PM
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20. Joseph Nye Welch said it best have you left no sense of decency?
Until this moment, Senator, I think I never gauged your cruelty or your recklessness<...>" When McCarthy resumed his attack, Welch interrupted him: "Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?" When McCarthy once again persisted, Welch cut him off and demanded the chairman "call the next witness." At that point, the gallery erupted in applause and a recess was called.<79>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy#The_Army-M...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:12 PM
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21. herman.... hillary also has a commie problem
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 08:12 PM by madrchsod
she`s got a problem with her days in chicago being a disciple of saul alinsky

here ya go herman first page on a simple google search..saul alinsky-hillary clinton


http://rakesprogress.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/hillary-c... /
Hillary Clintons Thesis about Radical Activist Saul Alinsky A Rakes Progress

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/ireland/04070

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/886451/posts
BILL, HILLARY, SAUL, AND MORAL RELATIVISM Saul Alinsky and the Lessons He Taught Bill and Hillary

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388394 /
How the Clintons hid Hillary's thesis - Hillary Clinton News- msnbc.com

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388372 /
Reading Hillary Clinton's hidden thesis - Hillary Clinton News- msnbc.com
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OutNow Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:27 PM
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22. Obama has Socialist Supporters Too !!!!!!!!!!
Like me! And known socialists have helped fund his campaign! Like me!
I'm a known socialist and was investigated by the FBI's COINTELPRO program in the 1970s and I have a copy of my FBI file to prove it.

I sure hope no right wing fascists find out about this. Think of the scandal :-}



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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:29 PM
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23. Yawn
Go back to 1960, Herman. meanwhile, I'll send you to hide thread land. Ta ta.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:33 PM
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24. By RW Swiftboat of Obama...you really mean...YOUR swiftboating of Obama.
I've seen almost exclusively anti-Obama posts from you.
Do you hate Obama more than you like Hillary?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:16 PM
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26. Obamites need to get a grip
They may be able to shout down anything that doesn't follow the Book of Axlerod's doctrine but they can't do this in the real world. Obama's liabilities need to be put on the table before we decide on him. He needs to be vetted, just like mortals are vetted.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:27 PM
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32. OMG you're right!
And you know what else? I heard that in his campaign speeches he talks about UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111ELEVENTHOUSANDONEHUNDREDELEVENTOINFINITY

Quick man the bomb shelters! He's a Muslim Liberal Commie Black Fundamentalist Christian Gay Hating Gay Loving Atheist Latte Drinking Chauvenist Black Hating KKK Member with a penchant for poetry! RUN FER YER LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:32 PM
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38. More cultist idiocy
Yes, he lies about universal health care. He came clean for a while but then voting was around the corner so he began lying.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:20 PM
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27. Red-scare stuff? We all know how relevant the John Birch Society is these days...
:rofl:
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:22 PM
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28. And you're right here to post it for our viewing pleasure, aren't you?
Jeeze Louise, this plumbing the depths of every right-wing source for mud to sling at Obama in the name of "letting us know" what the rethugs are saying about him is so transparent.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:26 PM
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30. I'm a bit more concerned with Obama's getting cozy with George Soros.
Soros backs Obama, as does Warren Buffet, quietly in the background. Right wing hates-hates-hates George Soros.

Maybe the left should hate him, too. Soros recently purchased 2 million shares of Halliburton stock.

================

"Nothing says Bomb Iran like markets wizard George Soros plunking down $62 million for a nice chunk of Halliburton stock.

The beloved liberal moneybags made the purchase at the end of last year, according to secret public documents revealed by Foreign Policys blog. Sure, thats chump change for the super-billionaire Soros, but the dude didnt become a super-billionaire by pissing his money away except for the Kerry campaign, which is pretty much the legal definition of pissing your money away. (Soros bought HAL at $31.30, so he already lost about $2 million on the deal.)

What does Soros know, and when did he start to know it? Note to our friends in Iran: This is an awesome time to take a trip abroad. Come to LA! Youll find things remarkably inexpensive due to our worthless U.S. dollar. And the White House hasnt destroyed an American city since New Orleans, so . Actually, Europe is super great this time of year."

http://tinyurl.com/2efr86
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:26 PM
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31. Don't they know that Communism goes against Islam?
:nopity:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:27 PM
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33. You're a smear merchant.
You post nothing positive about Hillary. Just negative about Obama.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:28 PM
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34. Obama wins the communist demographic !!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:28 PM
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35. In the Wikipedia Entry On Barack's Mom
She is described as a "Fellow traveler," with the implication that she flirted with communism. Personally, I don't see that as a big deal; this was just at the end of the 1950s, lots of young, adventurous people were.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:29 PM
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36. He's a...Communist? That's the smear? The Red Menace?
How convincing.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:32 PM
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39. Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii
I wonder what kind of nuts they must have been. Sounds like something that was a front for stealing land from natives.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:32 PM
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40. You're digging up information from Sciafe wingnut orgs?
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 09:32 PM by ProSense
AIM's work

Vincent Foster conspiracy claims

Accuracy in Media has received a substantial amount of funding from Scaife who paid Christopher W. Ruddy to investigate allegations that President William Clinton was connected to the suicide of Vincent Foster.<15> AIM claims that "Foster was murdered",<16> which is contrary to three independent reports including one by Kenneth Starr<17>. AIM faults the media for not picking up on the conspiracy.<18> The organization has even gone to court for documents and recordings linked to the case.

AIM credits much of its reporting on the Foster case to Ruddy.<19> Yet, his work has been called a "hoax" and "discredited" by conservatives like Ann Coulter,<20> it was also disputed by the American Spectator, which caused Scaife to ending his funding of the Arkansas Project with the publisher.<21> As CNN explained on February 28, 1997, "The report refutes claims by conservative political organizations that Foster was the victim of a murder plot and coverup," but "despite those findings, right-wing political groups have continued to allege that there was more to the death and that the president and First Lady tried to cover it up."<22>

AIM speaker Hugh Turley (co author of Failure of the Public Trust) currently operates a Foster conspiracy website at FBICOVER-UP.com.<23><24> While Ruddy operates a conservative news website, NewsMax, that still claims there is a conspiracy and faults the media.<25>

Fox News

On October 20, 2006, Accuracy in Media released a list of 27 questions to pose at the Fox News Executive meeting that will be attended by AIM editor Cliff Kincaid.<26><27>

Of these 27 questions, 8 dwell on Rupert Murdoch's relationship with the Clintons and how that may have affected Fox News coverage.<26> Moreover, AIMS wrote "News Corporation hired the Glover Park Group, a public relations firm run by friends of Bill and Hillary Clinton, to block changes in the TV ratings system," and asks, "Was this part of News Corporation's move to the left?"<26>

In May 2007, Accuracy in Media raised questions about a conflict of interest in Fox News' co-sponsorship of the May 15 Republican Presidential Candidates debate,<28> pointing out that News Corporation, the parent company of Fox News, is as a client of presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani.<29>

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:42 PM
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42. He pops into DU, throws mud and leaves.
Nothing positive to say about Hillary anymore.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:12 PM
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46. Yep... that's Herman's M.O.
...he hasn't posted something positive about Hillary in weeks.


He's become a Drudge-ian hit artist.


Once Obama sews up the nomination, he'll be tomb-stoned the next time he does it.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:16 PM
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48. So will Tellurian and jackson_dem
and I won't miss them one BIT!
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candymarl Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:44 PM
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43. A lot of this stuff is on the net
This gives Dems a pretty good idea where the Repubs will hit Obama. The ground work is being laid. I just hope he's ready for it.

We Dems may not fall for it but that doesn't mean generic America (Obama leaning Repubs and Independents) won't. We dismissed the "Dean scream" and it killed his campaign. We dismissed the attacks on Gore and Kerry as nonsense. It came back to bite us in the general election.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:01 PM
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44. Gasp! A high school student was interested in what a famous septagenarian black poet had to say!
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:09 PM
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45. Ruh roh.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...very interesting. The rethugs are gonna have a hayday with this crap.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:12 PM
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47. Weren't you the first to post the bullshit Larry Sinclair story?
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:20 PM
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50. Another missed hit and run peice by Hermmie.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:52 PM
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52. FOUR GLIMPSES OF NIGHT (Frank Marshall Davis)
I
Eagerly
Like a woman hurrying to her lover
Night comes to the room of the world
And lies, yielding and content
Against the cool round face
Of the moon.

2
Night is a curious child, wandering
Between earth and sky, creeping
In windows and doors, daubing
The entire neighborhood
With purple paint.
Day
Is an apologetic mother
Cloth in hand
Following after.

3
Peddling
From door to door
Night sells
Black bags of peppermint stars
Heaping cones of vanilla moon
Until
His wares are gone
Then shuffles homeward
Jingling the gray coins
Of daybreak.

4
Night's brittle song, silver-thin,
Shatters into a billion fragments
Of quiet shadows
At the blaring jazz
Of a morning sun.

http://www.orangeturtle.com/fourglimpses.html
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