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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:41 PM Original message |
Insubstantial Obama |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. Any well funded campaign pays a staff to write up pages of |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Is HRC's website also full of "blidge"? |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. So we might just as well |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. It's up to you. |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Thanks |
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islandmkl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. are any of the current BIG PARTY candidates not WELL-FUNDED? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. WTF do you want? |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Pointing to some web pages proves nothing about substance. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. The "web pages" are his official platform |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. His official platform was authored by a bunch of pony salesmen. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. If Clinton beats Obama on the issues... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. So what, you agree he wants the right things, just for the wrong reasons? |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. What kind of reference material would prove substance? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. oops, wrong spot--delete |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Would you like a private meeting, where he can bring all his papers |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I'll bet there is no back-up. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Any chance we can get you to prove one of your assertions? n/t |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. There's a strange blindness to your belief in Obama's lack of subsance. |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Obama's entire "hope & change" message is a synthetic marketing creation by |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. So David Kusnet's speechwriting creations for Bill Clinton, are those also synthetic? |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. The message is a synthetic formula. It has nothing to do with Clinton |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. The message has simple catch phrases. The issues they stand for are substantial. |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. His message is synthetic, but his policies aren't. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Let's ask an ex-Clinton speechwriter what he thinks about Obama's would-be plagarism |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. That one gets me too |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I'm starting to see it as the invisible man phenomenon. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I'm starting to see it as the invisible man phenomenon. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. They're hitting him on his strength--inspiring people. Obviously, if people |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. because Hillary is cynical and cannot inspire |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. She has to tear him down, bring him down to her level-- |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. I agree that they're hitting him on his strength. It's obvious he has a substantial agenda. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
19. He should do a little of both. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. What kind of facts are you looking for from Obama's speeches? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Link to some facts with the prose: |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Excellent links, proving the substance issue in indisputable terms. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
24. Maybe because Hillary herself says there is no difference. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. He has eleven years of elected experience, to her 7. He wins on experience too. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. How can Obama be insubsantial, if there's no substantial difference between his and HRC's agenda? |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Agreed. |
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