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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:23 PM
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How can a group of otherwise APPARENTLY intelligent people
keep repeating REPUBLICAN talking points? And what is up with all the hate? We all keep being insulted by people who don't even know us.

Also, suggesting that we'd NEVER vote for a candidate because of their supporters is immature and nothing but bs. We might want to quit PRETENDING we don't understand a candidates platform, it only shows that we don't care to know it.

Finally, vote for whom you think is best, who cares if we don't like the supporters of that candidate.

Any democrat is much better than the alternative.



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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:26 PM
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1. there is little evidence
to suggest any apparent intelligence
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:37 PM
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9. Now, now.
:spray:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:27 PM
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2. "Any democrat is much better than the alternative" - with one exception: Lieberman.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:28 PM
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4. He's no Democrat--
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:36 PM
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7. He is a confused politician but not a democrat. I'm sure I don't know
what he is. :7
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:43 PM
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10. He's listed in the Senate records now as an "Independent Democrat." Both of those words
seem to be misnomers, if you ask me.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:27 PM
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3. Hillary or Barack are way, way better than this guy and his pal.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:29 PM
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5. Oops! You forgot one:


:yoiks:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:37 PM
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8. Ewww. He's making eyes at her.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:49 PM
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14. She looks like she's trying not to be sick
OMG! did I just say a thing in favour of Hillary?????
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:00 PM
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20. To me it looks like Hillary is making eyes back.
And holding hands also. She is a DINO after all.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:16 PM
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30. both hands are her own
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:31 PM
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6. Indeed!!!!!
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:51 PM
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15. cool link
I'll be scattering it about wherever I can

along with:

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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:56 PM
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17. Thanks!
I put a ton of work into that page, and wrote all the music myself.

It's easy when you are handed so much fodder.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:11 PM
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27. You have a very nice my space web-page!
he admits that he hears the voices! :rofl:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:44 PM
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11. It has really gotten ridiculous. We can't even debate the issues anymore.
We don't discuss the importance of mandates versus no mandates.

We talk about whether we should put a woman or an African-American in the WH.

We don't debate the Iraq withdrawal plans.

Instead, we're embroiled in misogyny versus racism.

We're in the middle of one of the most exciting democratic primary races ever, with two candidates that would be infinitely better than the Republican alternative. And instead of looking at the bright side of the extended race (the Republicans can't start an organized attack campaign because they still don't know who the nominee will be), some people are ANGRY that the campaign still goes on.

We've uncovered voting irregularities in NY and exposed the weakness in our primary process. We now know that we need to work on fixing these issues.

Two-thirds of the population are AGAINST this Iraq war. And we're still running scared of someone who said ON RECORD that he'd be cool with us being over "there" for 100 years. WTF?

We don't talk about bills the candidates have introduced, legislation the candidates have gotten passed, nothing substantive. It's just become one, big, ugly pissing contest.

I'm praying this is just part of the primary process and that once the nominee is decided, we can get back to focusing on the important things that matter.

Like health care.

Like our trade deficit and foreign countries buying up our nation at bargain rates.

Like civil rights for ALL, whether latino, black, female, or LGBT.

Like a rational immigration policy.

Like doing something about our dying manufacturing sector.

Like getting us the hell out of Iraq.

Like fixing the damn bridges and infrastructure.

Like bringing back the social security lock box.

Like becoming the United States of America again, instead of Red vs. Blue, east coast vs. west coast, north vs. south.

I guess that's asking for too much.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:52 PM
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16. I think you have very valid points
it sounds like you are about over GD Primaries as much as most of us are. The problem is I just can't stop coming by to see what's going on.

There are occasional posts that are really good and very exciting. The problem is the baited ones can draw me in too.

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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:42 PM
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23. yep
It's really kind of nuts. I think we have two exceptionally good candidates running, and though neither is without their drawbacks, they both are infinitely better than the senile old fart running on the GOP side.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:46 PM
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12. Good question
This forum should be renamed "General Flamefest: Best of the GOP Bullshit Rehashed Over and Over."
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:48 PM
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13. Lol
That sounds perfect! :rofl:
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:58 PM
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18. Or...
the "I'm in a pissy mood, but posting here is better than kicking the cat" forum...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:00 PM
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19. some people will do anything for attention
some of those people don't know the difference between good attention and bad attention
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:07 PM
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21. I never get any attention!
:rofl: and you are right, as usual.


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TheWarIzaLie Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:22 PM
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22. Intelligence is down...
I repeat, we have no intelligence!
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:44 PM
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24. Your OP is inspirational, but if Hillary is the candidate, I won't
vote for her. I see her as just more of the same. I've tried to see her otherwise, but I just can't. And every step she and Bill are making recently so approach "Rovian tactics," to quote another DUer in a post the other day, that I can't even seem to separate her anymore from the Bushes.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:54 PM
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25. I don't like Clinton but if you can't see the differences
between her and Bush than you know NOTHING about politics.
Geezus effing Christ. The RW attacks her as "too liberal" and you say she is "just like" Bush?
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:15 PM
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28. I can understand your frustration with me, but Hillary has truly
disappointed and discouraged me in recent weeks with her (and Bill's) tactics. I can't find the thread, but it hit home with me, one about the idea that a president will preside similarly to the way they campaigned, and it is true that she is using very similar campaign tactics to those of GWB.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:58 PM
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26. The words "Supreme Court" mean anything to you?
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:15 PM
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29. They do mean something, but not in this circumstance. Please explain.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:25 PM
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31. Who would you prefer making lifetime appointments to the Supreme Court, a Dem or a Repub?
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 08:29 PM by Garbo 2004
Justice Stevens is going to be 88 this April. The Repubs have been hoping for him to leave under a Repub administration so they can further pack the court.
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:01 AM
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32. Sorry that's not a good enough reason to vote for Hillary.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:02 AM
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33. Better to leave SCOTUS to the "Constitution is just an old piece of paper" crowd so you won't
sully your integrity by voting for a Dem politician? Brilliant.

Remember in the 2000 election when some folks were saying they wouldn't vote for Gore because there wasn't any difference between the Dems and the Repubs? Gore or Bush, it wouldn't make any difference either way. Think the last 7 years has proved them right? Oh and yeah, it was the SCOTUS that gave us Bush, courtesy of the kind of Republican appointments you evidently don't care about.

I don't care for Hillary's campaign but both Hillary and Obama have engaged in cheap shots (Obama's "Harry & Louise" mailer wasn't exactly the high road) and misrepresentations of each other's positions and statements. But I care about the SCOTUS and a few other matters much more than the unfortunate fact that political campaigns aren't exercises in civility or 100% "truthiness." Neither of them were my first choice, but I'll vote for whoever gets the nom.
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:22 AM
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34. Hillary is no Gore. I won't vote for Hillary. Period.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:31 AM
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35. Yep.....it appears that way.
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