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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:23 AM
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Pay to the "Super Delegates"?
What is up with this?

Superdelegates for sale?

In the Center of Responsive Politics’ newsletter, Capital Eye, Lindsay Renick Mayer wrote, “If neither candidate can earn the support of at least 2,025 delegates in the primary voting process, the decision of who will represent the Democrats in November's presidential election will fall not to the will of the people but to these "superdelegates"—the candidates' friends, colleagues and even financial beneficiaries. Both contenders will be calling in favors.

“Obama, who narrowly leads in the count of pledged, "non-super" delegates, has doled out more than $694,000 to superdelegates from his political action committee, Hope Fund, or campaign committee since 2005. Of the 81 elected officials who had announced as of Feb. 12 that their superdelegate votes would go to the Illinois senator, 34, or 40 percent of this group, have received campaign contributions from him in the 2006 or 2008 election cycles, totaling $228,000. In addition, Obama has been endorsed by 52 superdelegates who haven't held elected office recently and, therefore, didn't receive campaign contributions from him.

“Clinton does not appear to have been as openhanded. Her PAC, HILLPAC, and campaign committee appear to have distributed $195,500 to superdelegates. Only 12 percent of her elected superdelegates, or 13 of 109 who have said they will back her, have received campaign contributions, totaling about $95,000 since 2005. An additional 128 unelected superdelegates support Clinton, according to a blog tracking superdelegates and their endorsements, 2008 Democratic Convention Watch.
http://www.tulsatoday.com/newsdesk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1458&Itemid=2


*The Center for Responsive Politics checks out as a good source*
The Center for Responsive Politics
http://www.opensecrets.org/about/index.asp
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:26 AM
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1. Man I hate hearing stuff like this.
Isn't there ANYTHING in politics that doesn't involve money?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:27 AM
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2. er...
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 12:27 AM by Spider Jerusalem
so Obama's PAC contributes money to help get Democrats re-elected? And does so on a larger scale than Hillary's? This is a bad thing how, precisely?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:38 AM
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3. No no no no no I am just asking to find out if this is really the case
and if so how it works
Went to the folks today and they were ready with their SUper Delegate talking points
see here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4625029&mesg_id=4625029

They asked about this so I looked it up (I DID look it up) and was wondering if anyone on DU had more info on this.

I see how they got the spin that they got-it does seem to be moving money around between PAC's which I don't really like either.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:49 AM
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5. It's SOP...and smart politics
we're stuck with the system we have, unfortunately. And a candidate who can raise funds and use those funds to help elect and re-elect other Democrats has something to point to to say 'hey, look, it's not just about me. I'm working for the good of the party to ensure a greater Democratic majority in the future.' And I don't think that the superdelegates should or do feel obligated to support a specific candidate on that basis; they should and almost certainly will support the best interests of the party as a whole, taking into consideration the general election and the expressed will of a majority of Democratic voters.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:41 AM
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4. This was on CNN or MSNBC today, (I forget which) yes, the elected super delegates are getting
campaign donations from our two candidates.

One more reason they shouldn't decide the outcome, either way it should only be elected delegates that decide this.
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mysteryman2 Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:53 AM
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6. What I think
I am still undecided. But it should be like football who ever can beat the Republicans. I am just worried about the Latin, Asian , and Muslim vote and Hillary has that. That is my only concern who can actually wine the election not the primary. The primary is important but who will win the election.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:53 AM
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7. YuP--Obama buys his delegates 4:1 compared to Clinton
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