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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:48 PM Original message |
The Tactical Genius that is Barack...or how Obama won the nomination |
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yeswecan08 (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. Obama is the smartest man in American politics - not just IQ alone |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. Or his chief strategist, David Axelrod is... |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. There was a great article in today's NY Times about Obama's campaign and |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Please do - I'd love to see it. NT |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Was it this? |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. I'm guessing it was...very good article! nt |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Yes ! You found it, thank you !! This ones going in my scrapbook ! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. Obama is brilliant. But he hasn't won it yet. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I just don't see Hillary changing the subtext narrative at this point... |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. Obama 2008 is the Bush of 2000. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. You really should have your own blog. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I do...but its for reviewing cyberpunk movies. :) |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. You're really missing the point here...ALL the politicians do this stuff... |
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LadyVT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. "Chicago politics" is a reference to the mob... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Not really. It's a reference to Chicago politics. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Chicago politics is not really a mob reference...but it doesn't imply... |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. it's a very good thing, thinking of the General Election |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Exactly. McCain is gonna get his ass handed to him... |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. The don't play pitty pat politics in Chicago |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. Interesting post. |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. He hasn't won. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Keep telling yourself that... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. Shaheen, Kerrey, et al |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Yes, she did do it, but it very well might have doomed Obama.. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I completely agree with that |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. The willingness to "say anything to win".---yes, that is the Obama way! |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
18. he is a master politician - very much like Bill Clinton |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Agreed. Bill Clinton in his prime was masterful...but... |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
21. Obama is doing well, but don't celebrate prematurely. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. She has to change the narrative...she's not gonna, or else... |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
49. I don't know about destruction or genius but... |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. The problem is not her desire..its the narrative that has been put in place... |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. She will come close because of proportional delegation. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Your math is wrong...I think you mean 14 delegate LEAD per primary.. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Yeah I got my wires crossed |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. It will be even harder for Hillary to catch up, but again... |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Its a valid point. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
24. I think the really powerful thing he's doing here is making it look effortless |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. It's old versus new |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Agreed. He's really got the narrative won... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. You guys should be embarrassed |
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stevietheman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Enough with the MSM paranoia... Obama is winning because people... |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. That's a bit too much for me, sorry... |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
27. But let's give some additional credit where it is due |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I ABSOLUTELY agree with you...especially about Teddy... |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Okay, since you agreed with what I said I am nominating and kicking |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. 'tis a rare thing indeed! |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. and also because he gave that speech at the O4 Convention. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Great point. Kerry gave him his start...its only reasonable that... |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
35. He is playing poltics so well, no one even notices it |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. he makes it look like all fun and games. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
38. Cracking good read. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
43. too bad he does not have the nomination yet hey? |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I've addressed this in a number of the responses... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. i follow you-yet she is a strong determined women. So much can happen yet. thanks. |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I'm really glad |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
50. Very well thought-out OP. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:28 AM Response to Original message |
51. the one thing you left out- a free pass from the media. just wait until they take that free pass b |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 08:23 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. You don't think Barack affected their views on him? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
54. Obama's Brilliant Swiftboating of the Clintons on Race steals the nomination. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. This is hardly comparable to swiftboating and you know it... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
55. Myself, I think it's about Obama embracing the 50 state strategy-- |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Obama had an Iowa or Bust strategy...but if he won Iowa, he knew that... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
57. That Obama and his team are so crafty...that actually makes me feel |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Great! This was the purpose of the OP...if you now think of Obama as.. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
62. Wheres the bridge? |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. See my response in post #46 nt |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
63. No, their going to eat him for breakfast. He's toast - if he gets past Hillary, that is. If. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Wow, thanks for the well thought-out rebuttal of my point! |
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