When did we surrender to the republicans on Whitewater?

[bigtree]

When I see posts raking Maggie Williams over the coals for accepting a donation from Johnny Chung, I wonder where these folks would have been during Fred Thompson's witch hunt, piling on the perpetual campaign by the right-wing to discredit and destroy the Clintons.

Is this now going to be a board on which posters are actually comfortable advancing the republican tripe most Democrats fought so hard against during our Democratic president's two terms in office? This was supposed to be a refuge from all of that.

[Sapphocrat]

1. About the same time...

...allegedly loyal Democrats started thinking it was appropriate to start tossing Monica Lewinsky's name around.

[Tennessee Gal]

4. Yep, and trashing Joe Wilson.

[smalll]

2. Ever since the Barockstar rode in to shore on a clamshell, I guess. /nt

[Yossariant]

3. When the "win at any cost" "Dems" were "recruited." We can only win without them.

[Liberal Veteran]

5. We can't afford to ignore the tripe either.

We've played this hand before and it wasn't pretty.

[bigtree]

6. its always something with the republicans

you can either run from it, or take a stand

[Liberal Veteran]

9. We already did....in 1998.

I don't mean to sound dismissive, but I get the feeling that some people forget just how much vitriol was unleashed against the Clinton family and how much of it actually became part of the common mythology.

I know that many people would see Senator Clinton's election as a combination of revenge and vindication for the crap the republicans put us through, but that's unlikely to happen. There may not be as many people on our side who wouldn't vote for Clinton as there are those on the wrong side that would never vote for McCain, but they exist. And they exist in greater numbers than people think. I've heard otherwise decently progressive people just flat out say they would vote republican before Hillary Clinton.

Is this the time and place to put the all that garbage and vitriol back on the table and make that stand, when we have a viable and equitable alternative?

[bigtree]

10. it never left the table

and you can't just hide from it. do you really think they'll just drop it?

[Liberal Veteran]

11. Make them start from scratch this time.

I have no interest in shoveling last winter's snow.

[bigtree]

12. some snow

[theHandpuppet]

7. Just an excerpt from something I wrote on another post...

... because it applies here also. I sometimes wonder if I haven't wandered on to Free Republic by mistake.

Oh, for years I've witnessed incredibly hateful attacks upon Hilliary Clinton by the likes of Limbaugh and O'Reilly and their disgusting ilk, but I never in my wildest dreams expected to see the same from members of my own party. Never would I have expected to witness such glee in the destruction and humiliation of one of the most accomplished women EVER in American politics. It's a shameful spectacle and one in which I want no part.

[Yossariant]

8. The GOP wants Obama so feeds his base and they gobble it up..

NPR's Juan Williams told The Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol that he thought Republican analysts want Senator Barack Obama as the Democratic nominee because they actually believe he will be easier to defeat than Clinton.

"I think Bill Kristol is being very supportive of Mr. Obama, but you have an agenda," Williams charged. "You guys think it's easy to beat Barack Obama going forward."

[Ronnie]

14. Very well put.

I keep wondering, who are these people? They can't be Democrats.

[Phil McCavity]

13. A true progressive sticks to the real issues

The Iraq war, where Hillary can be easily tackled, the economy, health care (the mandate if you believe Obama's position on it is better).

But those who copy and paste off the Drudge's page are nothing but fanatics.