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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:35 PM
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OBAMA wins the most states, votes and elected delegates. BUT
the democratic unelected super delegates go against the will of the voters and give the nomination to mrs clinton. i think this would be a disaster and cause us to lose in november. i think its time for senator clinton to drop out for the good of victory in november!!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:35 PM
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1. dumb
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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:37 PM
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4. why??
i feel if the super delegates go against the voters it will split the party.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:38 PM
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9. So let's find out what the voters really want before we start calling for dropouts.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:39 PM
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12. Troublemaker...............
Sniffy-Sniiffy................Oh---yea.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:41 PM
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18. You Damn Right It Will.... and the elite would be smart to not even try it
it will do more than split our party, because it already is split....


Just remember this, these elites are a puny minority, just with more wealth and power. That changes when they pull this shit on us for good.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:37 PM
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5. I agree, let the contests go on and see where we are in June
competition does not hurt
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:36 PM
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2. Why should either of them drop out?
They both still have a good chance to win so they should both keep running. I'd rather have a nominee sooner than later, and I don't want to go to a brokered convention. But I don't see why either candidate should bow out.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:37 PM
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3. I think you're hoping for that because you know Obama won't win the GE.
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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:38 PM
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7. he is the strongest candidate
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:38 PM
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10. Once he is vetted - that will be far from the truth.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:37 PM
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6. If she loses TX or OH on 3/4, then I'd expect her to drop out.
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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:39 PM
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14. howard dean
said he will step in and stop it. but how?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:41 PM
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20. I don't know, but he could probably make enough calls to get all the super delegates...
tell him what they plan to do and then have a meeting with the candidates
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:42 PM
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21. I saw Dean say this as well. That they will not let it go too late (n/t)
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:38 PM
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8. Nobody should drop out at this point
It's a neck-and-neck race.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:38 PM
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11. I dont think they will
I think the perception is that wouldnt be fair, and besides its an overblown issue, Hillary has something like 205 (pledged) supers and Barak has 98. and there are a total of 796 or something riduclous like that. So thats 400 outstanding. I dont find it surprising that Hillary has 205 in fact I wouldn tbe surprised if she had more than that, shes connected in the party, and the big dog was president and an elected Governer way before Obama was a thought.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:39 PM
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13. Underminding the Democratic Process to Curry Favor to the Elite?????
Oh, my..... and just would defend such a thing.....?

This primary has been very eye-opening as to who is who and where people really stand on democratic principles.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:40 PM
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15. Not yet but if she ends up with less pledged delegates in the end she should drop out
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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:41 PM
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19. we must avoid a fight
we must regain the white house.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:40 PM
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16. ok but what if after the big states get recorded she wins the popular vote
overall, but has slightly fewer pledged delegates? Shall we listen to the will of the people and throw all the super delegates her way?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:40 PM
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17. annnnd! Obama even beat Bill Clinton out of a grammy this week which the msm has remained silent on.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:25 PM
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25. That vote wasn't on merit
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:42 PM
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22. Don't buy into the MSM fantasy...this has NO chance of happening...
Simply put, neither the super delegates nor the candidates are that stupid or ego-ridden to let that happen.

It just won't. If one candidate starts pulling away, the super delegates will anoint that candidate, regardless of who they supported.

If its too close to call, Obama and Hillary will work this out and one will drop out - chances are they will do it based on who has the best chance to win (not including the spin for the news folks, of course). NEITHER of them wins if they go to the convention with a kenard like that.

Believe what you want, but the MSM fantasy of smoke-filled rooms has virtually no chance of happening. At all.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:49 PM
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23. Fuck you.
and Welcome to Democratic Underground.

Hillary isn't my first choice, but candidates can run as long as they want. Nobody has reached the delegate goal yet.

oh, and Fuck You.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:54 PM
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24. There is a lot of time left
She has a small popular vote lead, not sure if that included MI votes. If, after all of the primaries, she has less delegates and less votes, she should drop out.
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