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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:22 PM
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The Hillary-Obama contest is pitching one dem group against another: blacks against Hispanics.
I hate this aspect of it all. Who benefits? Repigs, who will try to use immigration to get blacks on board if Obama is not the nominee. Heard as much on Thom Hartmann. It's true. I hate it. It makes me sick.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:24 PM
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1. Do you have a link that I could read or hear?
Because this is bullshit being propagated by the Clinton campaign and beyond them, by the nutwing media.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:32 PM
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12. How much evidence do you need? Hispanics break for H, blacks for B. There
is a quiet competition between blacks and Hispanics as they both feel being oppressed by the white majority. They feel that they are stepping on each other's toes. To vote for a black guy means overcoming certain animosity that is there historically. Repigs are happy, I tell you that much. This is their chance to grab the black vote.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:33 PM
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14. Still waiting! All you've done so far is repeat a meme.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:34 PM
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15. OK. I wish I were wrong. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:36 PM
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16. You and I know there is tension but that tension is one shared
by poor people all over the country.

And the media is turning this into some kind of ugly race war. And the Clinton's are trying to capitalize on it.

That's just wrong, imho. I'm done.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:24 PM
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2. that is part of the Clintons' game plan, and it will continue
It's also why she won't get the black vote in the fall if she is the nominee. They'll stay home by the millions.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:25 PM
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4. Hillary's fault!!11!!1
You read it here, folks. :sarcasm:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:30 PM
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9. Yes, it is her and her campaign's fault. Own it.
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 03:31 PM by sfexpat2000
And hope that the number of black hispanics don't start their own blog to tell Penn how full of it he is.

Destructive bullshit on a cracker. Thanks, Hil!
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:32 PM
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11. If it's negative, it has to be Hillary's fault. That's the rule, isn't it?
:sarcasm:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:32 PM
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13. Nope. The rule is you are responsible for your behavior.
Is that news to you?
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:45 PM
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18. No! That's not the rule, silly. Hillary is responsible for EVERYONE's behavior
You must have missed the memo. But that's Hillary's fault too. Or maybe it was one of her surrogates' responsibilities or something. :shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:46 PM
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19. If she can't cop to her own stuff, there's no use holdiing her responsible
for anyone else's.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:25 PM
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3. It's almost like West Side story
but without all of the great dancing.

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:27 PM
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5. I like to be in America!
Okay be me in America!
Everything's free in America
for a small fee in America!

Damn the Stephen Sondheim!
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Tex_Dem Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:27 PM
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6. your post
The black vote will not go Republican. A very high percentage of black voters say that they not only would vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination but that they would be happy to do so. It's not that they don't like Hillary. It's that they love Barack.

Whatever. Blacks will not vote for McCain and you can take that to the bank.

Latinos voting for Obama and not McCain however, if a much dicier proposition.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:29 PM
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8. Good first post, Tex_Dem!
Welcome to DU!

:hi:

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:31 PM
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10. No, Latinos vote for Democrats. Except for those older crazy
Cuban expats.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:36 PM
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17. You are making sense. Welcome to DU. nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:51 PM
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20. You're missing the point on the general election. They won't GOTV.
Elections are always about (1) identifying your voters, and (2) making sure they vote.

If you think blacks are going to line up at the polls to vote for Hillary after what has happened, you don't understand how seriously black Democrats take being dissed, talked about, and talked down to.

Motivating people, exciting people, is part of it.

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:28 PM
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7. Does disagreeing about a candidate make two ethnicities oppose each other?
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