CNN Ad Paints Dean as a Communist

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

Nice rising sun and red communist stars aye?

[madrchsod]

1. cnn

fuck them..

[BruinAlum]

2. Oh come on!

You're making this up!

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

3. nope, i pulled it from rumor mill news..

..it came off drudge originally as an advertisement. its looking as tho cnn wants to put him out forever.

on the side, did anyone notice the person with the "CNN is Bad" sign at kerry's acceptance on super tuesday. that was awesome.

[Tank in Texas]

6. "CNN is Bad News"

Total greatness!

If that "Commie Dean" sign is real- ouch. Our country is really in trouble when the media decides the elections. Canada is looking mighty good.

[angryinoville]

40. That sign is real..

it's a promo for a movie about what went on behind the scenes of the Dean campaign. As far as the communism thing goes, what if this promo was made by the Dean people? I wouldn't sweat it. It almost looks like an ESPN Classic promo.

[Tank in Texas]

45. ESPN Classic

LOL! I didn't even think about that- you're correct.

[Eric J in MN]

5. it's at cnn.com right now, on top (nt)

nt

[Eric J in MN]

4. and the phrase "True Believers" is calling it a cult to support Dean

So I guess supporters of a centrist who was governor of Vermont for 11 years are a communist-cult.

[prodigal_green]

7. Pass the Kool-Aid

eom

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

8. Who is Mercuras?

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

11. whomever save the image at RMN

eom

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

14. Their other pics are archived on their own server...

Oh well...

[dsc]

9. Yet we are paranoid whack a doos

when we state that the press was after Dean.

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

10. ..and that Henry Luce, founder of Time Inc..

..and parent company to CNN was skull and bones. ;)

geez, what a grip big media has on our country. i can just imagine what is was like when we only had 3 channels and no internet, how little we really knew...

[NewHampster]

12. Only three national channels

but every town and city had a free Paper or two and there were things called Local TV and radio stations.

The free press died 20 years ago.

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

17. yeah u rite..

..about local press, etc. the corpses have taken over. hopefully, these sites listed below will have something to do about it.. ...eventually :(

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[NoPasaran]

13. Back then I think we were better informed

There were real journalists like Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite on television.

But people back then really got their news from newspapers. There were a lot more of them in those days and while the quality varied quite a bit there were some truly excellent ones out there like the NYT and WP, both now descended into whoredom.

And out on the fringe, a few iconoclasts like Izzy Stone keeping them honest.

[madfloridian]

15. If you right click it from CNN, it says aol.

Interesting.

I told you they did not think Dean was dead enough.

:shrug:

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

18. theyre one and the same..

Companies owned by Time-Warner
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.09/aolchart.html

CNN, TBS, AOL, CompuServe, Netscape, HBO, New Line, Warner Bros, Warner Music, Digital City, MovieFone, Spinner, Winamp, Roadrunner, Cinemax, MoreMAX, ActionMAX, ThrillerMAX, Atlanta Braves, Atlanta Hawks, Atlanta Thrashers, World Championship Wrestling, Goodwill Games, and Book of the Month Club to name a few...

Financials
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=TWX

[madfloridian]

22. I had forgotten....what a huge conglomerate!

Like the kind Dean talked about breaking up. LOL

:hi:

[KissMyAsscroft]

16. Yep, Fair and Balanced...

Unfuckingreal.

[w4rma]

19. Blasted bullcrap! To heck with that despicable "news" channel. (n/t)

[Adelante]

20. I saw an interview, a brief one

with the filmmaker. She didn't seem unsympathetic. It may turn out to be better than expected.

[madfloridian]

21. I heard that, but she is a Trippi devotee mostly.

At least that is my impression. I like Trippi fine, but there are two sides to stories. I am afraid only one will be told.

I hope they are fairly decent, but I doubt it. I did hear she was sympathetic to the campaign more than most.

I guess I just the press has had a lot of fun with our candiidates, all of them. I wish I could be a fly on the wall at the Gridiron dinner. I understand Dean will be there, but he is only speaking at the luncheon. I will bet he will have to do a lot of laughing at himself. He does that pretty well, now.

[chocolateeater]

43. C-SPAN will be televising

The speech at 1:15PM.:hi:

[JohnKleeb]

23. rising sun is a communist symbol?

Also since when is being a communist a bad thing :D.

[w4rma]

24. I don't find this amusing. (n/t)

[JohnKleeb]

29. I am merely saying, communism isnt a bad thing

sorry.

[w4rma]

31. I wholehartedly disagree. (n/t)

[mikehiggins]

39. That reminds me of an old saying

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.

In practice, there is.

Communism, as a theory, is a natural outgrowth of classical socialist theory, which is itself an natural outgrowth of such wide-eyed radical philosophies as, say, the teachings of Christ.

Communism, as seen in practice, is just another means for the powerful to control and oppress the powerless, just like divine right, fascism and any other totalitarian system.

[angryinoville]

41. you're right....

if it weren't for corruption in high places, communism might have worked in Russia. It's better than the feudal system we have in place in America.

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

26. ummm.,,,

you're right, its actually a dual reference.

red star for communism and rising sun for our wwII enemy, the japanese.

what's worse??


Red Star
http://www.seacoastonline.com/2002news/11272002/world/305.htm

Rising Sun
http://www.historyofmilitary.com/The_Rising_Sun__The_Decline_and_Fall_of_the_Japanese_Empire_19361945_0812968581.html


Google web images for rising sun flag
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&c2coff=1&q=rising+sun+flag&sa=N&tab=wi

Google web images for red star
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&c2coff=1&q=red+star

[JohnKleeb]

30. rising sun is the japanese yes

[nomaco-10]

25. What did Helen Thomas say about daggers in the back...

It seems like the media not only drove them in, now they get some perverse enjoyment out of twisting them.

I'd like to be able to say I find this bit of graphic design license shocking, but I can't, but I do find it repulsive. Whoever is responsible for the design of this logo/banner for the Dean documentary should have been told, this is not acceptable. CNN is a huge concern, somebody in the graphics dept. dropped the ball going up the chain to the point it was approved and aired several times this week advertising the documentary to be aired on Sunday. I caught it the very first time I saw it. It almost seemed to be subliminal at first, but the message it was trying to convey was clear.

[Faygo Kid]

27. I have gotten into it with you Dean supporters, but you're right here.

This is disgusting. Howard Dean redefined the Democratic Party, after the disaster that was 2002, and I for one am so grateful (Daschle? Please.) I am glad Kerry is the nominee, but this kind of trash is offensive to all good progressives. Here's one we can agree on. I have no doubt Howard Dean will rise above this. He is too tough not to.

[BootinUp]

28. Is that a Sun, or Spot lights

Actually it looks more like a bad rock star graphic to me.

I don't think they intentionally went for the communist look.

[BootinUp]

51. See what I mean?

[LoZoccolo]

32. I wish I could put the smiley in the subject but I can't so I put this.

:tinfoilhat:

Come on, it's red white and blue! Lots of people don't even know anything about red stars...and they're usually gold anyways on communist flags! There's a lot better things to criticize the media for that are more materially obvious, like the imbalance of pro/anti war views last year that are documented and quantified.

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

33. um ok, that isnt imagery of the enemy?

WWII Flag of Japanese Navy & Army





Flag of soviet navy 1935-1992




how american.

[w4rma]

34. A Soviet propaganda poster

http://www.printfinders.com/product/artwork.exe?ARTWORKID=53767&ITEMID=53767

[arcos]

37. umm... that's in Spanish...

it says "19 years of the Soviet Union". I don't know if the background picture is part of an original soviet poster, but this one isn't.

[Adelante]

50. It's the style

I actually love those posters.

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

35. in contrast, bush is portrayed as christ..

nah, the media isnt king cuz they know about the powers of the subliminal now right?

it couldnt be..

lol.

[MaineDem]

36. I was never a Dean supporter

But I saw a snippet from this show the other day on Wolf's show and I was disappointed (in CNN). It showed staffers shooting what looked like water guns or silly string or something like that in the office. I know these people were working hard coming up with the web site and all that and I understand the importance of being loose in these situations but my impression was that CNN was trying to show these people as political neophytes with no discipline. I hope that's not what the gist of the show is. These Dean staffers worked hard and did a good job of getting their message out.

I hope this isn't a hatchet job on the Dean campaign.

[Vladimir]

38. ROTFLMAOACMS

[Padraig18]

42. I think that's a stretch, frankly.

I'm a reasonable and reasonably aware person, and the idea would NEVER have occurred to me, had you not suggested it.
:shrug:

[mrgorth]

44. It looks like

an Old Navy ad. Please.

[Renew Deal]

46. I noticed that.

It's very eastern bloc/soviet era.

[DrFunkenstein]

47. That Hurts All Liberals, Even Non-Dean People

[Renew Deal]

48. Red stars are in the North Korea Flag and on Soviet Tanks

[JNelson6563]

49. Well he's not dead yet!

He still has potential to do great harm to the status quo. Do you think they will leave him unencumbered to just go and achieve this?

He and his supporters (or any like minded souls) absolutely must be discredited immediately. It is the only way. There's alway the "plan crash" one but that one has to be used with some discretion. Too great a frequency would be too obvious for the masses to ignore.

Julie

[janx]

53. I don't know if I'd go that far, but yes, the media will continue

to discredit him.

[BootinUp]

52. Look at this cheesy photo a minute

See what I mean? its a bad rock star graphic

[madfloridian]

54. The use of the term "True Believers" is a little much.

It is cult-like term. Oh, well. Drink that doggone kool-aid.