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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:55 AM
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Listen, I am an Obama supporter, but stop the crap about Hillary crying
If you want to argue issues, then do it, but showing emotion, and implying that it is due to some political motive is bullshit

No one knows how anyone else feels

I saw one of the players in the Super Bowl cry after the game

Demonizing the other candidates because they show emotion is not only insensitive, but will work against us


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bgb217 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:57 AM
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1. Thanking you for you civility/sanity.
THANK YOU.
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bgb217 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:57 AM
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2. Thanking you for you civility/sanity.
THANK YOU.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:06 PM
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We are going to have to come together after this is over
I too have gotten caught up in this circus. We are not the problem, the republicans are the problem, and why we are in the situation we are in today

Good Luck to your candidate, and if Hillary wins, you can count on my support


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bushisachimp Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:58 AM
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3. i am a woman. I refuse to be silent about her obvious deception and disgusting phoniness
other people can fall for her calculation but i know shes a truly disingenuous person. why should we have to keep silent because her supporters arent even rational enough to see a pattern in her behavior?

did she cry when she voted for the iraq war? I know i did.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:59 AM
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7. Thank you!
Agreed 100%.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:59 AM
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8. So you are into mind reading? That would be cool if it wasn't utter BS.
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 12:02 PM by Democrat 4 Ever
Edit - just in case there was some confusion. My comments were directed at the poster bushisachimp

Total nonsensical "I know" from someone who doesn't know a thing any better than the rest of us.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:08 PM
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18. I am NOT a woman, but how do YOU know what other people feel?
No one can feel for anyone else. This isn't even an issue



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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:10 PM
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20. Fucking ridicuous...
really. You're a disgrace to women.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:17 PM
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25. What does being a woman have to do with an appalling inability to ...
recognize a trait common to all human beings. Specifically being the absolute inability to know what someone else is thinking or feeling with a high degree of certainty.

You'd be more honest with yourself and everyone else if you said you suspect she is being deception or you feel she is being deceptive. Stating your personal beliefs as fact is disingenuous and serves to make you look silly.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:58 AM
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4. Congrats on being an intelligent Obama supporter
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 11:58 AM by quinnox
Increasingly rare these days.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:09 PM
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19. Both sides are caught up in this nonesense. The truth is when this is all over
we are going to need each other in order to win the general election

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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:12 PM
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23. you are right
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:58 AM
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5. It's a
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:05 PM
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14. If there is a strategy
It's either the media's or worse it's the Obama campaign's.

A woman tears up at an emotional reunion with an aging mentor --and this is news?

Keep pushing it --it'll backfire the same way it backfired last time.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:10 PM
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21. It does reflect how petty we seem to be here at DU /nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:58 AM
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6. I couldn't agree more.
There in NOTHING wrong with her showing emotion. In fact, it was an appropriate reaction- both times.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:06 PM
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16. Thank you
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:07 PM
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17. I don't often agree
with you, but you are right on the mark here.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:01 PM
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9. And using emotion to force a desired outcome is tactless
and demeaning to strong women who DON'T cry on cue.

She didn't cry AFTER she lost Iowa she cried when she needed to win New Hampshire. She didn't cry after she lost South Carolina she's crying NOW that she needs to win on Super Tuesday.

Sorry, I'm not buying her tears. And I won't be silent about it.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:02 PM
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10. Exactly, thank you.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:02 PM
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11. But don't you think the timing is weird?
I mean I don't remember hearing this stuff happen prior to this year, and now it happens twice, and both the day before some really big elections.

Shes had YEARS in public life. I would think that if she were emotionally affected, there would be lots of incidences by now.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:06 PM
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15. If Hillary were not running for President
you would not see the media cover moments when old friends or mentors choked up with pride upon greeting her, or how Hillary responded to them doing that in front of her. It may have happened ten times before over the years, and you would never know.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:20 PM
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27. Ed Muskey became emotional during his campaign. Maybe you don't remember
So did George McGovern

This is a non-issue

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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:03 PM
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Be careful of "history repeating"
Arguably it was the backlash against this type of behavior (or the perception of it in the media in general) that helped clinton in NH. If you forget history(assuming this was a decisive factor in the clinton win) you may be doomed to repeat it. Even if you think the populace will adopt the "fool me once" mantra.., why test the potential "backlash" effect? Perhaps the readers of DU won't make a decisive impact on the polls but still...
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:03 PM
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12. I'm an Edwards supporter and I completely agree with you. This is bullshit.
:grr:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:03 PM
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13. I say don't give it any more attention than it deserves, which is none--
whether genuine or fake.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:19 PM
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26. Exactly
no way of knowing, and even if known it would not mean much. Well... acually, if known to be fake it WOULD mean quite a lot, but there is NO WAY of knowing, so idle speculation is worse than useless. I hope the media will understand this as well, and we will not be bombarded with the same teary clip over and over and over again.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:24 PM
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31. Agreed. Where the respective candidates stand on the issues is where it is at /nt
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:11 PM
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22. Bah.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:14 PM
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24. I agree - It is offensive. Nothing wrong showing some emotion about kids.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:20 PM
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28. I agree! Focus on why Obama is the far better candidate...
Who gives a shit if Hil cried.

It's better to focus on why Obama should be the Dem's choice; not rage on Hillary for crying.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:21 PM
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29. thanks.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:23 PM
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30. Yep the poster is totally right got to be totally cool
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 12:24 PM by cooolandrew
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