McCain on CNN: Clinton and Obama want to wave the white flag of surrender.

[VolcanoJen]

See? Clinton and Obama aren't so different after all. Not to Saint McCain.

:eyes:

[dkf]

1. McCain is going to run on the war.

Hillary will be dead meat against him.

[TomClash]

4. People are dead sickof the War

and don't want any new ones either.

[dkf]

9. Don't underestimate the power of the Repubs to gin up support

for war.

They have done it before and will do it again.

[TomClash]

14. I hear you

But we've hear this song before and, given what happened in Iraq, who will believe it?

Now if you're telling me they will engineer a massive terror attack on the US, that is not beyond the realm of possibility.

[VolcanoJen]

17. Hell, I'll take it further.

I'm not convinced Chimpy won't try to go out with a bang. :scared:

Either of our excellent candidates will have to struggle with warmongerers from May to Labor Day. And I think we can win that argument.

[BeatleBoot]

10. To Clarify, They are sick of Iraq, but last time I checked

Nobody likes terrorists.

And that shit will be going on for a while, sorry to say.

It doesn't have to define us as a country (as the Bushies did), but it's still there and America will want someone in the Oval Office that will have no qualms bombing the filthy pigs out of existence.

Enter Barack Obama. Enter Hillary Clinton.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out who would be better defending this country.

[TomClash]

13. Rocket surgeon?

Put down the crack pipe.

I understand your point but their problem is that they can only cry wolf so many times. They've exhausted this meme too many times. It failed miserably in 2006.

That play might only work if there are one or more major terror attacks on US soil before the election or they start a major new war. And that's a huge risk.

I'd take Barack over Hillary in a heartbeat on national security policy - he proved it in the last debate. She was better on health care and even economics but looked and sounded lost when international relations was discussed. Her war vote explanation is a lie and I absolutely know it's a lie. Barack gets the big picture, even better than McCain - his coach is the smartest FP/NSP guy on the planet. Color me unimpressed with Hillary.

[BeatleBoot]

21. Rocket Surgeon was my attempt at humor

It's a cross between Rocket Scientist and Brain Surgeon.

No crack pipe here, but thanks for the lame put down.

Your lack of humor and viciousness becomes you. And you wear it well.

The pukes lost in 2006 due to Mark Foley and the page scandal and in part due to the bungling of Iraq - not because of terrorism per se.

So if you think the country will vote this guy in office in the fall - go for it. If you're blinded by the realities, that's your thing.

But don't put me down for speaking out, because I'll have to deal with another 4 years of a Republican in the White House.

The stakes are huge for me and my family and I can't afford it anymore.

[TomClash]

22. You dish it out but can't take it

Here's a shocker: rocket surgeon isn't funny. It's way beyond lame.

I'm vicious? Go back and read your posts and then take a look in the mirror, Ringo.

Few people buy the terrorism theme anymore, but then again maybe I just have a misguided faith in the American people.

Sure, Iraq and Mark Foley played a big role in the Repub defeat but note that the terror alerts and threats in the summer and fall of '06 did NOT change the voters' mind.

Speak out all you want - no one's stopping you - you're entitled to your opinion and I'm not putting you down.

They're not getting 4 more years. Two words: Ohio and money. This is serious and a lot of serious people are taking it very seriously - whether the nominee is Hillary or Barack, I think we take it at the end of the day. But it will be a fight.

[aquart]

2. Excellent. They both want to end Iraq.

What do they plan to do about the mess we made in Afghanistan?

[HereSince1628]

3. For McCain every battle must be fought to the death.

Sad.

[TexasObserver]

5. McCain is selling to an audience that gives Bush 75% approval.

He thinks he's going to ride that war talk to the nomination. But what can he sell in the general but the same shit?

He's going down hard in the general election, I do believe.

[dtotire]

6. McCain not very bright

He might be a nice guy and all that, but graduating near the bottom doesn't say much about his intelligence. Same as Bush.

From Wikipedia:

John Sidney McCain III (born August 29, 1936) is the senior United States Senator from Arizona and a candidate for the Republican Party nomination in the 2008 presidential election.

Both McCain's grandfather and father were Admirals in the United States Navy. McCain also attended the United States Naval Academy and finished near the bottom of his graduating class in 1958.

[BeatleBoot]

7. Clinton's got some NutCrackin' to do.

BHO I don't trust.

This will be a simple question in November if it's a puke vs. Obama.

Which means the Dems can kiss the White House Good-Bye.

[rodeodance]

20. yes, I do not think the Vision glitter can go up against Mccain

[robbedvoter]

8. Actually I agree on this one with him. They both want out - or else I couldn't

vote for either of them

[VolcanoJen]

18. Agreed.

I may not be supporting Hillary Clinton in the primary, but I will most certainly support her in November if she wins the nomination.

And I would not be able to do that, if I was not confident that she wishes to end the war in Iraq. I couldn't support her or Obama if I didn't feel that in my heart, if I didn't trust both of them to bring our troops home.

[Mika]

11. Video - McCain's White Flag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41CpnoAfbV4

DU thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x88087

[featherman]

12. McCain waves the bloody flag of perpetual war

[Mika]

23. Now. Before now, he waved the flag of surrender. Flip flop.

Look at video in post #11 to see.

[ZinZen]

15. McCain = Four More Wars!

[knowledgeispwr]

16. Keep talking McCain

Most Americans, democratic, republican, independent and other, are sick of this war.

I think Clinton or Obama would wipe the floor with McCain in any debate. I also doubt he has the energy to campaign all the way to the white house.

[rodeodance]

19. well, seems to me it is OBAMA who claims to be the antiwar candidate--eat em up

[surfermaw]

24. Who cares what the next to last Naval Adademy Grad. THINKS

I hope Hillary or Obama stops this war, it was one of the meanest thing this nation has done, Bush should have been impeached and Cheney along with him...

John McCain graduated next to last from the Naval Academy and bragged he wished he had been last. We have had had one dumb sucker the republicans put on us, for the love of God you white men vote for Hillary or Obama. Edwards was my first choice and could have beatenee McCain, but with him gone my next choice is Hillary and then Obama....Any Democrat is better than a republican, the republican party would like to see any democrat eating from the pig pen, they hate us so much, don't be fooled by McCains mealy mouth, we already know he will do any thing to win, he took all the stuff that W threw at him in South Carolina then went to work helping him get any thing he wanted, Mc Cain sis nothing but a Bush suck up....Wake up you White men and vote either Hillary or Obama. This is comming from an old 80 year old White Woman.