The Move-On "votes" - where's the votes for Edwards, Kucinich, and Richardson?

[MethuenProgressive]

Move-On seems to be using voo-doo math claiming Obama "won" the voting.

[AlGore-08.com]

1. Their email went out yesterday. The only choices on my ballot were Clinton and Obama. n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

5. They said in the announcement that they had polled for a year. "30K each week"

Today's endorsement is the first time MoveOn.org has endorsed a candidate for President in the Democratic primary. Over the past year, MoveOn surveyed a rotating sample of 30,000 members each week to determine their membership's preference in the Democratic presidential primary. For months, MoveOn members were divided among many candidates -- as many waited to see who would take bold progressive positions on the issues. As the primary race has gained momentum, the polling showed a consensus forming and, with Senator John Edward's withdrawal from the race, members made their decision in favor of Senator Obama. The vote took place from Thursday, January 31st to Friday, February 1st.

http://moveon.org/press/pr/obamaendorsementrelease.html

[Occam Bandage]

8. Um, yeah. They've been polling 30k per week. Seeing a pattern, they decided to issue one last poll

specifically to determine the endorsement. That poll took place Jan 31st to Feb 1st.

Try reading.

[rox63]

2. In case you haven't noticed...

All of those folks have dropped out. MoveOn was trying to get their members to vote for who they want the origanization to endorse. Endorsing someone who has dropped out of the race would be kinda dumb on their part.

[MethuenProgressive]

7. "Over the past year, MoveOn surveyed a rotating sample of 30,000 members each week "

[Occam Bandage]

11. And that had nothing to do with the poll that determined the endorsement. Try reading.

[Occam Bandage]

3. Um...why would they put candidates who had dropped out on the ballot?

:eyes:

[MethuenProgressive]

9. "Over the past year, MoveOn surveyed a rotating sample of 30,000 members each week "

[Occam Bandage]

12. Just like an Obama-basher--pick out one line without looking at the context.

[bunnies]

4. You want them to endorse people who are no longer in the race?

Seriously?

The two choices were Obama and Clinton. Whats the problem with this?

[MethuenProgressive]

10. "Over the past year, MoveOn surveyed a rotating sample of 30,000 members each week "

[LordJFT]

6. edit: you're not even worth a response

[MethuenProgressive]

13. A year - and no votes for Gore, Kerry, Biden?

"Over the past year, MoveOn surveyed a rotating sample of 30,000 members each week"

[Occam Bandage]

15. "The vote took place from Thursday, January 31st to Friday, February 1st." You're referring to

a running opinion poll, not the poll for the endorsement.

[bunnies]

14. Do yourself a favor and read the email. Obviously you're not a member.

Today's your chance to vote on MoveOn's Democratic primary endorsement. Click here for your personalized ballot.


Vote today!
Dear MoveOn Member,

We have a big decision to make. Yesterday, John Edwards left the race for president, leaving just two major Democratic candidates. And next Tuesday, over half of MoveOn's members will go to the polls in the biggest primary day in American history.

Right now, we have an opportunity to influence who our next president is—3.2 million MoveOn members together. When we surveyed over 200,000 MoveOn members yesterday to see if we should go forward with an endorsement process, a big majority said "yes."

So it's time to ask the question: Who should MoveOn endorse in the Democratic primary? If two-thirds of MoveOn members support one candidate, we'll campaign for that candidate together. Here's your ballot—vote today:

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The above link is your personal presidential endorsement ballot for the Democratic nomination—it can be used only by you. It's important to vote immediately. Voting lasts until 11 a.m. Eastern tomorrow—Friday, February 1st. Then the ballots are counted, and we'll announce whether anyone met the 2/3 threshold.

If we can agree on a candidate by tomorrow, our endorsement will give that candidate a significant boost going into Super Tuesday, just a few days away. In addition to mobilizing MoveOn members to vote, our endorsement would mean that we campaign actively, as a unified movement, to elect a candidate who will represent us.

Each week over the past year, randomly selected MoveOn members filled out a survey about which candidate they supported. For months, MoveOn members were divided among many candidates—and many of us were waiting to see who would take bold progressive positions on the issues. But with Edwards dropping out, it's down to just two major candidates. And especially with Super Tuesday right around the corner, many progressives are making up their minds. Now's the time we can band together to make a difference.
Here's how MoveOn's endorsement process works:

* Everyone who is a MoveOn member as of noon Eastern on Wednesday, January 30th, and will be at least 18 years old by November 4th, 2008 gets one vote.
* Voting lasts now through 11:00 a.m. Eastern tomorrow—Friday, February 1st. This will allow MoveOn to make an endorsement in time to make a difference on Super Tuesday.
* MoveOn will only endorse a candidate if more than 2/3 of our members select that candidate. These are the same rules MoveOn has applied in contested Democratic congressional primaries. If MoveOn endorses a candidate, we will immediately start campaigning for that candidate.
* If no candidate receives more than 2/3 of the votes cast, MoveOn will encourage members to vote and play an active role in the primary process, but will not endorse at this time.
* We are taking extra security measures to protect the integrity of the vote. A random sampling of voters will get verification phone calls after voting. We've also ensured that each ballot is unique to one MoveOn member—so forwarding links will not allow more people to vote.

Click here to vote:

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2008 will be an exciting year. Together, we have an opportunity to make a big difference.

Thanks for all you do,

–Eli, Wes, Joan, Justin, Adam G., Adam R., Ilyse, Karin, Nita, Noah, Marika, Laura, Peter, Anna, Matt, Daniel, Carrie, Tanya, and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Thursday, January 31st, 2008




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[Occam Bandage]

17. He really just put his foot in it.

[MethuenProgressive]

19. No, not a member, donated once and got nothing but spam in return.

[Clarkansas]

16. It looks like you have a sale going on.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

18. uh - because they're not running? n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

20. They were running while the polling was happening - all those votes over the last year and...

..they base their endorsement on a 2 day poll of less than 10% of the membership?
I have no doubt that over the last year Obama was *not* the total leading vote getter.
It is *false* of Move-On to claim the membership endorses him.

[Occam Bandage]

21. Yes, over their polling. They said that since the membership seemed pretty settled on

Obama in their polling, they decided they'd issue a poll specifically and clearly for endorsement. Every moveon member was polled. The members that cared enough to respond endorsed Obama overwhelmingly.

Get over it.

[John Q. Citizen]

22. Sounds like you need a waaaambulance. Sorry it's upset you so much. If you were a member

you could raise a fuss.