Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I've already voted, but if I had to vote today, I'd be torn--even tho Obama and I share a faith

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:19 PM
Original message
I've already voted, but if I had to vote today, I'd be torn--even tho Obama and I share a faith
I am a member of the same Christian denomination as Barack Obama. Obama is not the first politician of our faith with high office or high aspirations. Daniel Inouye and Daniel Akaka of Hawaii, Bob Graham, Max Baucus and Howard Dean are also UCC. I've thought it might be cool to have a UCC in the White House, to give some visibility to a tradition of which I am deeply proud.

But Obama is anything but a point of pride for me. Our denomination is known for its outspoken support of glbt people, ordaining them since 1972, endorsing/allowing marriages as a denomination since 2005 but on the local level well before that. It is one of the things I'm most proud of.

But now I have to keep explaining to people that the UCC is not homophobic, does not oppose gay marriage, ordains gay clergy, and does NOT support ex-gay ministries. Every time I think I've clarified this, Obama does something else to embarrass us again.

If I could ask Barack Obama one thing, it would be "Why are you UCC?" or maybe "Why do you walk away from our UCC progressive positions on glbt issues so often?".

Since I've voted for John Edwards, this is all academic. I'll probably vote for the nominee in November. But if that nominee is Barack Obama, his belonging to my church won't be a factor.

Which makes me kind of sad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:25 PM
Response to Original message
1. You're right. I had a completely different impression of your church
And I'm glad to have it corrected.

A gay friend died. I went to the service at his church. It was a welcoming church. The pastor who gave the service knew him so well, because he was such a contributing participant in church activities, and was so grief-stricken, as were so many of the members of the congregation who were also there...I can't tell you how much it mattered to me that he had found that place and those people.

I am truly happy to know there are other churches out there being just as loving.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Thank you for your kind words. I'm so proud that we provide a place
that welcomes those other churches turn away. I serve a church in a fairly small, very conservative town. We're the only open and affirming church in town, and I think it's so important that we offer this ministry to glbt people. I wish Obama were as proud of this ministry as I am.

And I'm sorry about your friend.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 10:31 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC