Well, my local news just LED with the Obama snubs Clinton story

[ruggerson]

it was their LEAD story.

so much for this being a DU phenomenon.

And they got very specific about Obama giving her an icy stare and then turning away as she came over.

The anchor at the end: "Everyone will be talking about this tomorrow."

[2rth2pwr]

1. the hope and unity candidate. yeah right. nt

[Catherine Vincent]

2. Bwahahaha!!

[maddiejoan]

3. It's all very "water cooler" conversation

Forgetting anything else --it was a bad campaign move for Obama.

He had to have known that him and Hillary within 5 feet of each other would have cameras pointed.

[Tom Rinaldo]

16. That is my bottom line on this also

For Obama not to realize the controversy it would kick up to appear to be avoiding contact with Clinton while she was shaking hands with everyone around him, including Ted Kennedy who had just come out against her, is a really major political blunder. This isn't tripping over the words of a joke, this is basic. Hillary Clinton certainly knew she likely would run into Barack Obama at the SOTU, and he sure as hell knew that also. They both needed pre-plans on how they would handle it.

How they interacted with each other was sure to be reported on. Had they both done a small courtesy smile and hand shake, it would have been a small inconsequential toss in to the coverage of the night. At worse it would have been nuetral. Obama went out of his way to shake George Bush's hand, he should have known not to go out of his way to avoid shaking Hillary Clinton's hand. Press were everywhere and some of them no doubt were assigned to closely follow each of the presidential candidates during the entire event. That was absolutely predictable.

If Obama hoped he somehow could avoid direct contact with Clinton without it being obvious that he was avoiding her, that dream was dead the moment he knew she and Kennedy were greeting each other right next to him - he certainly was not oblivious to that. From that moment forward politically he should have known that the gracius AND EXPECTED thing to do would be to greet her also, and from that moment on, politically, it should have become his business to make sure that he did.

Obama just stepped on a full days worth of very positibve media coverage and replaced it with a very sour seeming story instead. One can't afford to do those things during a Presidential election.

[ruggerson]

21. Exactly

and additionally, most people are not political junkies like us. They make decisions based on the personalities of the candidates and on almost imperceptible character cues they pick up on. This holds especially true with Presidential elections. The "you're likable enough, Hillary" moment may have actually cost Obama New Hampshire, even more than Hillary's soft moment. It betrayed, rightly or wrongly, an arrogance and borderline cruelty that a lot of women really picked up on. This "handshake" controversy feeds into the exact same kind of dynamic. It is not going to play well with women who chat about this kind of thing at the water cooler. This holds true for Hillary as well. When she makes a small personality misstep, it is oftentimes magnified and becomes fodder for those that don't follow the ins and outs of the campaign as closely as we all do. IT's sad that this is how a lot of Americans vote for a President. But this is how they make their minds up.

[maddiejoan]

23. and what's the image people will have?

Ted Kennedy shaking hands with Hillary Clinton at Bush's SOTU.

Ted wins.

Hillary wins.

Obama loses.

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. This thing probably has no legs, however, it indicates the level

of scrutiny directed at these players.

[tandem5]

5. Shit have you met fan? Fan, this is shit. nt

[Yossariant]

6. He's a uniter; not a divider.

;-)

De ja vu all over again.

[AX10]

10. Obama 2008 is the Bush of 2000.

[Joe the Revelator]

7. What media market are you in?

[ErnestoG]

8. HAHAHAHA "everyone will be talking about this tomorrow"

says some podunk little news station.

I am atwitter in anticipation.

[murielm99]

25. Do you have a life?

I see you have been here all of three days, and you have appeared in nearly every thread with some sort of snarky comment.

Do you ever post anything positive?

I don't care who your candidate is. You need to get out more.

[AX10]

9. Isn't that nice, Obama's childish behavior is getting so much attention.

[ErnestoG]

18. What childish behavior? Nothing happened.

Well, on planet earth anyway. In the head of the Hillarbot, that's another story...

[Scurrilous]

11. My local news led with the 'Britney Spears has mental issues' story.

I sure wish they'd cover the important stuff like your station does.

[jaysunb]

13. beauty !

:rofl:

[NMMNG]

15. Britney Spears has had mental issues for how long?

That was news a month ago. :eyes:

[smalll]

12. Woohoo! This thing has...

legs!

[Maven]

14. I wasn't expecting that.

:rofl:

[Dr Fate]

22. What it doesnt have is hands.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4261179&mesg_id=4261179

[Jamastiene]

33. Well played.

:spray:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNvOPN1LoQ4

[UALRBSofL]

35. That looks like something I saw

At the Hait/Ashbury district of San francisco. :)

[smalll]

36. That's exactly where it is!

(So Google Images told me.) :)

[DURHAM D]

17. It will be ok - Obama will come out tomorrow and make some lame excuse

Then the media will find a way to make it Hillary's fault.

This is Monday - by Wednesday the Obama camp, some prominent white male has-been politicians and the press will be demanding an apology from both Clinton's for making Obama look bad.

Axelrod has all of the media boys on speaker phone right now and they are all wanking it out.

[smalll]

20. Oh! I know! He'll blame a lowly staffer somehow!

That usually seems to work.

[Zueda]

19. What's you local station's call letters?

[Knox Harrington]

24. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Obama really screwed himself this time!! He's shown once and for all what a horrible, despicable waste of a human being he really is! What kind of man doesn't shake hands with a lady?

I can't help but laughing at all of you who put your naive little false hopes in this lame excuse for a person!!

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!

HRC all the way to the White House!!!!!

[mathewsleep]

27. you are horrible

ignored!

[anamandujano]

26. He was probably all bent out of shape that Hillary went out of

her way to greet Ted so graciously. Obama probably expected Kennedy's endorsement would put her in a tizzy.

We can expect a lot more of this from the great uniter. Even if he gets tutored in manners 101 for hours and hours a week, he won't be able to change his stripes quickly enough. His arrogance and entitlement will do him in.

[loveangelc]

28. what is your local news station?

[PretzelWarrior]

29. slow news day in Mayberry apparently.

it wasn't on any of my stations in Portland and hasn't been on any of the long running "picking through the puke" CNN analysis of the speech and reactions, etc.

I bet this doesn't get much beyond a few gossipy mentions in the next 24 hours. if that.

[TheDonkey]

30. It's the type of lame non-story the media will love. This is why Obama should be embarassed

He should know better and his advisors should tell him better. Very disappointing that he is giving the haters ammo after such an incredible few days of pro-Obama news.

[backwoodsbob]

31. even most local stations are now online.

What's the call letters of your station?

[kerstin]

32. It's called leadership.

In this instance, Clinton showed it. Obama did not.

[sunonmars]

34. This is exactly what they did to Dean

Took a simple thing and then ran with it.

Was'nt smart and didnt look clever.

People don't like this sort of thing.

[TankLV]

37. oppsy! guess it's not just "us", huh!

no matter how the bambots try to spin it...