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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:08 AM
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Here is a statement that sums up Hillary's entire campaign
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:10 AM
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1. "this dog won't even think of hunting"/green-eyed monster!
:rofl:
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Kermit77 Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:46 AM
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2. I think her campaign is summed up with the slogan ......
"It's not illegal unless they say so." From her campaign handbook at the Nevada caucuses.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 03:10 AM
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3. I thought her campaign was summed up with "I'm not Bill, but I know where he sleeps."
And it isn't with her.

LoL
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:06 PM
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4. LEARN something from this SUMMARY!!:


Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Obama Anti-war voice muted in Senate.Didn’t make a floor speech on the war until one year in office
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4254164#4254164
4254164, Obama Anti-war voice muted in Senate.Didn’t make a floor speech on the war until one year in office
Posted by agdlp on Mon Jan-28-08 06:31 PM

Stephen Zunes, the Foreign Policy In Focus Middle East editor, is a professor of politics at the University of San Francisco and the author of Tinderbox: U.S. Middle East Policy and the Roots of Terrorism (Common Courage Press, 2003).

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MSM should really do some more research before condemning HRC on her statements on Obama and Iraq war:

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Iraq in the Illinois State Senate

In October 2002, while Senators Hillary Clinton and John Edwards were in Washington leading Congressional efforts to authorize President George W. Bush to invade that oil-rich country at the time and circumstances of his choosing, Obama–then an Illinois state senator who had no obligation to take a stand either way–took the initiative to speak at a major anti-war rally in Chicago. While Clinton and Edwards were making false and alarmist statements that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was still a danger to the Middle East and U.S. national security, Obama had a far more realistic understanding of the situation, stating: “Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors.”

Recognizing that there were alternatives to using military force, Obama called on the United States to “allow UN inspectors to do their work.” He noted “that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.”

Furthermore, unlike the the Iraq War’s initial supporters, Obama recognized that “even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.” Understanding the dangerous consequences to regional stability resulting from war, Obama accurately warned that “an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.”

Iraq in the U.S. Senate

Once elected to the U.S. Senate, however, his anti-war voice became muted. Obama supported unconditional funding for the Iraq War in both 2005 and 2006. And–despite her false testimonies before Congress and her mismanagement of Iraq policy before, during, and after the U.S. invasion in her role as National Security Advisor–Obama broke with most of his liberal colleagues in the Senate by voting to confirm Condoleezza Rice as secretary of state during his first weeks in office.

Obama didn’t even make a floor speech on the war until a full year after his election. In it, he called for a reduction in the number of U.S. troops but no timetable for their withdrawal. In June 2006, he voted against an amendment by Senators Russ Feingold and John Kerry for such a timetable.

In addition, during the 2006 Democratic congressional primaries, he campaigned for pro-war incumbents–including Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman against his eventually victorious primary challenger Ned Lamont–and other conservative Democrats fighting back more progressive anti-war challengers.

Iraq as a Presidential Candidate

It was only after the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, headed by former Secretary of State James Baker and former Representative Lee Hamilton, called for setting a date to withdraw U.S. combat troops, and only after Obama formed his presidential exploratory committee, that he introduced legislation setting a date for troop withdrawal. And it was only this past spring that he began voting against unconditional funding for the war.

In a speech before the Chicago Council on Global Affairs in November 2006, Obama appeared to buy into the Bush administration’s claims that its goal in Iraq was not about oil or empire, but to advance freedom, by criticizing the Bush administration for invading Iraq for unrealistic “dreams of democracy and hopes for a perfect government.” Instead of calling for an end to the increasingly bloody U.S.-led military effort, he instead called for “a pragmatic solution to the real war we’re facing in Iraq,” with repeated references to the need to defeat the insurgency.

Despite polls showing a majority of Americans desiring a rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces, he acknowledged that U.S. troops may need to stay in that occupied country for an “extended period of time,” and that “the U.S. may have no choice but to slog it out in Iraq.” Specifically, he called for U.S. forces to maintain a “reduced but active presence,” to “protect logistical supply points” and “American enclaves like the Green Zone” as well as “act as rapid reaction forces to respond to emergencies and go after terrorists.”

Obama has committed to withdraw regular combat troops within 16 months and launch diplomatic and humanitarian initiatives to address some of the underlying issues driving the ongoing conflicts. He has also pledged to launch “a comprehensive regional and international diplomatic initiative to help broker and end of the civil war in Iraq, prevent its spread, and limit the suffering of the Iraqi people.”

If elected, as president Obama would almost certainly withdraw the vast majority of U.S. forces from Iraq. Yet thousands of American troops would likely remain to perform such duties as he has described as necessary. Indeed, he has explicitly ruled out any guarantee for a total U.S. withdrawal from Iraq by the end of his first term in 2013. At the same time, he has recognized the need to “make clear that we seek no permanent bases in Iraq” and has increasingly emphasized that most U.S. troops that remain in the area should be “over the horizon,” such as in Kuwait, rather than in Iraq itself.


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http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/11/6312 /
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:39 PM
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5. Must add the latest outrage:
Obama is more classless than the Hillary the victim of Kennedy's endorsement of Obama. You can't make this up!



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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:53 PM
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6. kind of lame, prosense.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:03 PM
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7. K & R
:kick:
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:04 PM
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8. did you include the speech Obama scrubbed from his website?
I know how you like to be totally honest..
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:09 PM
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9. WOW! A blog that summarizes another blog, with FIVE links to DU threads of your own.
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 10:10 PM by Skip Intro


I'm convinced now!


When is the next Obamass???
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2hip Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:28 PM
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10. By time Clinton and Obama are done slugging it out
Edwards just might be the last Candidate standing.


KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING!


New Grassroots Fund Drive—Wednesday, January 30th

(Please give the above link a kick for John!)

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:31 PM
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11. Right out of Karl Rove's playbook. Take a candidates strength and make it
his/her weakness.
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