Edwards Supporters: Let's Bang Our Heads Against Brick Walls!

[PresidentObama]

A great week.

John began the week with a wonderful performance in the SC debate.

He owned both Obama and Clinton.

Then he's on both Tyra Banks Show and David Letterman with two wonderful interviews/segments.

He's poured a lot of money into SC. Poured a lot of advertising.

Went from town to town focusing on the issues, while Obama and Clinton squabble.

And Obama is projected as first, with Hillary projected as second.

I could scream....

:banghead:

P.S. If you're wanting to put salt in our wounds, please don't even post. I don't want any flaming, mean comments about Edwards, or anything about that. Just an Edwards supporter vent thread please.

Thanks :)

And have a NICE FUCKING DAY :mad:

[bigwillq]

1. No more white males

I think that is the theme of this election cycle on the DEM side.

[krabigirl]

4. so lame...voting based on race or gender, rather than what people have to say.

[bigwillq]

80. I think for some people

that is the case.

[krabigirl]

5. so lame...voting based on race or gender, rather than what people have to say.

[krabigirl]

6. so lame...voting based on race or gender, rather than what people have to say.

[Nickster]

10. I'm starting to believe that you're right.

[Andy823]

109. One poll

Said that only 6% actually voted for someone they thought could win in November, only 6%!!!!!!!!

Does that even make sense? Vote on race or gender, and who cares if they can win??????????????

:banghead:

[JI7]

52. were the theme of all the other election cycles "only white males"

[bigwillq]

78. Yes

:P ;)

I didn't mean that in a negative way...it's just that now the DEMS finally have more diverse candidates and people are going ahead and voting accordingly.

I think it's a good thing although I am not a big fan of Obama or Clinton and not just b/c one is one mixed race and one is a woman.


I think John is kind of the odd man out this cycle.

[JI7]

142. ok, sorry i took it the wrong way

i think it's a positive thing also even if one doesn't support the candidates.

[cboy4]

2. And CNN just called second place for Hillary.

He has to be quite disappointed.

[Nutmegger]

3. This time, I expected it and didn't make the mistake that I did last week.

Off to Super Tuesday .... my vote will not be going to anybody else but for John Edwards.

[LiberalHeart]

18. I'm with you on that....

But I'm feeling extremely discouraged about this election -- with people saying the economy is the number one issue, then voting for Obama. It makes no sense. I predict that if Obama ends up as prez, there's going to be a huge wave of disappointment washing over the country as people begin to realize what they elected.

It looks like we're losing the only real chance we have to see the Democratic/progressive agenda pursued. That breaks my heart.

[Nutmegger]

42. I know, it doesn't make sense.

John Edwards really is addressing the issues that matter most, especially to African Americans. (Didn't Jesse Jackson say something like that recently?) Yet, he can't seem to catch on with people, which is a damn shame because I have this fear that people are going to regret this next year when everything is said and done. I'll have to get one of those "Don't blame me" bumper stickers.

Really heartbreaking as a hardcore supporter watching this all; but I am filled with a sense of pride that I'm not letting race, gender or the M$M dictate my vote.

Edwards 2008!!!

[fooj]

70. South Carolina Elections Commission hasn't posted ANY results yet.

I don't know WHERE THE HELL these media whores are getting their numbers but they aren't posted on the official state website.

http://www.scvotes.org/

[Birthmark]

22. "...my vote will not be going to..."

"...my vote will not be going to anybody else but for John Edwards."

Mine either. And that includes the General Election. If Edwards isn't the nominee, then I'm staying home on Election Day.

(NOTE: If Gore emerges as the nominee through a brokered convention, I'll vote for him without a doubt.)

[Stand and Fight]

I think I'm in agreement with you there....

2000 and 2004 and 2008? I think I've learned my lesson. I really don't think that if Barack is the nominee I will even bother to turn out to vote.

[Andy823]

117. Clinton or Obama

Makes no difference, if they get the nomination, then corporate america will be the ONLY winner!

I am so sick and tired of seeing the media push the "corporate" candidates, and the leadership of the dem party go along with it. It makes me sick. :puke:

All the leadership wants is the "MONEY" that will come in if they have a "corporate" candidate. The sad thing is I don't really think Obama or Clinton will win in November, and if the do, I have very little hope that there will be any "real" change!

[Critters2]

39. I'm kind of leaning this way myself.

If the Democratic Party chooses to nominate a "centrist" over a populist, well, that makes it hard for me. I'm a populist. I have no interest in reaching across the aisle to the people responsible for the last 8 years. I'd like this party to sprout a backbone!!

[cascadiance]

144. This is why elections isn't ONLY about appealing to the independents or the center

You also have to appeal to your base too, or you not only may lose voters there who just don't show up, but you also lose what traditionally are your "workhorses" who in the past have been motivated enough to work for the party to GOTV. If you just rely on paid "volunteers" to do so, you won't get near the amount of general election support that you would if you not only motivated part of the center, but make the base also feel like they are part of a movement for true change, not just "taken for granted" voters that are for the most part ignored or called "fringe left" and not relevant. THAT's how we've been losing elections! Is it any wonder our overall voting turnout is so low.

You want to have a message that reaches beyond the fringes, but face it. It isn't the fringe voters that's going to work hard for you to get out the vote in November. This is why Edwards HAS to stay in the race until the convention, even if he has only 20% of the delegates. We need his delegates to force the party to acknowledge and support its base if it wants real unity and not forced "unity".

[MissDeeds]

85. No, don't stay home

I'm going to exercise my right to vote and I'm proudly going to write in "John Edwards"! By God, I'm going to send a message, and I'm going to vote for the candidate of my choice. Oh! I am sick that this country cannot recognize a true leader and a voice for the masses. I'm shocked, disheartened and disgusted. Damn it.

[bdamomma]

123. yea, I think I'll be giving out alot of these to you guys tonite.

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[MissDeeds]

132. Thanks, Alyce

Right back at ya :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[JDPriestly]

115. I'm with you. Edwards for president.

The other two are just splitting the party to serve their own ambition. Do they really believe that, after the way they have attacked each other, they are going to be able to unify the party around one or the other of them. Edwards could yet be the candidate if he just hangs in there. A lot can change between now and June/July.

[jkurri]

31. Thank you

for not caving from the people who are actually thinking about the future.

[bdamomma]

60. but not all of precincts counts are not in yet.

shit, I wanted to see John get second.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

128. Doesn't matter. With ES&S and no paper trail, election is not legit -nt

[liberalla]

120. Same here! John Edwards gets my vote on Feb. 5!

Ain't voting for nobody but John. Just ain't.

Onwards, Upwards, Edwards. 2008

[Critters2]

160. Great slogan!! Is that original? nt

[liberalla]

161. No, it's not. I saw something similar while I was

searching for images of Edwards online. It's not exact, but I remembered these words.

I liked it too. Go John, GO! Onward and Upward!

[liberalla]

162. Dupe!

Deleted

[K Gardner]

7. Its definitely a surprise and a disappointment. I really didn't think HRC could hold 2nd.

[WillyT]

8. .

:banghead:

[RevolutionStartsNow]

9. I hear ya. I'm a Dem all the way, and...

I think Edwards best represents my Democratic ideals.

I think if John drops out I will change my car's bumpersticker to match my sig line, and then work for local candidates.

Edwards would be a great president, but it's apparently too much to ask to get a great president in this day and age.

Edited to say: My turned off sig line says "Steve Earle for President."

[Pathwalker]

11. Don't do that - it will hurt! John Edawrds is a great man,

you have an honorable candidate.

[Corkey Mineola]

12. Don't Give Up

Edwards is a great candidate -- perhaps the best of the 3

He is probably not going to win the nom but he will definitely keep it mixed up through Feb 5.

He's probably got my vote in California...

chin up!

[SammyWinstonJack]

45. Who is giving up? Not this Edwards supporter! If others can't see that he is our only hope..

well that is their problem, not mine! Go John E. Go!

[bdamomma]

65. I'm not either, I'm with John all the way!!!!

[stravu9]

100. He Is But What do we DO?

I've made calls and carried signs!
I don't have any money so barring Lottery win I can't help there!
He was obviously the best in the debate!
What do I do?

[SammyWinstonJack]

114. Who is giving up? Not John! You carry on! If you really believe in him, you carry on!

[ClassWarrior]

13. How is getting JE's agenda - OUR agenda - discussed...

...banging our heads against the wall?? Damn, he's making a difference just being there. And I hope he goes all the way to the convention. He's keeping a place at the table for us.

NGU, my friend...

NGU.

[grantcart]

14. very discouraging

[Ken Burch]

15. I had no such intention. My condolences for S.C.

As an adult survivor of the Kucinich campaign, I can relate. This process has been like a series of Mafia hits.

John Edwards spoke truth to power this year, and he has a lot to offer this country in the years to come.

What happened to him is what happens when the media decide you are not allowed to be president.

I am very sorry things haven't gone well for him and for you, his supporters, today.

[chimpymustgo]

16. The Edwards forum is safe. They're shooting too many guns into the air over here.

:scared:

[Stand and Fight]

28. Couldn't agree with you more... *sigh* n/t

[MissDeeds]

35. Thanks for the info

I really need to vent and be with like-minded folks right now. :cry:

[bdamomma]

71. Oh shit, John is not over yet, he is in for the long haul.

I will keep on giving him donations too.

[MissDeeds]

93. I'm right there with you, friend

Let's send a message and each send in a donation tonight, no matter how small. We've got to let John know we're with him!

[Tatiana]

17. I know how you feel

:cry:

I supported Clark in '04 race and even though his energy, security, economic, education, and foreign policies were (in my opinion) some of the best offered, he only managed to win the Oklahoma primary.

Sometimes, especially in this country, policy takes a backseat to popularity.

[Stand and Fight]

19. Pretty damn disappointing...

I'm really considering sitting this election out. If Democrats want to continue to vote against their own best interests, I don't see any reason -- at the moment -- to follow like a lemming as everyone else jumps off the proverbial cliff.

[CoffeeCat]

20. I'm a big fan of John Edwards...

...and I have the utmost respect and admiration for him, and for
his amazing policies. He truly is a man of the people, and I
love that he is the only candidate to even utter the word "neocon".

Although I am cheering for Obama, one cannot deny that Edwards
is an intelligent, dignified man who truly cares about all
Americans and is willing to go to bat for the middle class.

I know that CNN has called him 3rd, but the night is still young
isn't it? We still have a way to go, so maybe the final result
will be promising. You never know.

[Beaverhausen]

21. I'm still proud to support him and want his voice out there, talking about important issues

at least the other two keep stealing his ideas. I guess that's some comfort.

:hug:

[dionysus]

23. I'm sorry for you guys... i like him too,

i really can't understand why he's not doing better :(

[SammyWinstonJack]

62. LMAO! You really don't know why he isn't doing better?

Really? It's because he isn't towing the corporate line! Wake the fuck up! :banghead: And don't feel sorry for us, feel sorry for those who don't get it! Maybe that is you? :shrug:

[dionysus]

158. man you read way too much into that.

i like the guy even though he's my second choice dammit.

i was hoping he was going to do well too. my post was not intended as snark, so no need to take offense.

peace

[samdogmom]

24. It is so frustrating!

I'm not giving up on him. I'm planning to vote for him in Wisconsin.

I hope he has enough delegates to influence the platform or have some pull with the ultimate candidate. Me? I will settle for Attorney General for John--he'd be excellent in this role.

[book_worm]

25. I was so hoping he would come in second. He ran a great race anyway.

[jkurri]

26. It shows that

people are truly stupid and do not understand the big picture, I am sorry to say. Frankly I hope I am the stupid one and am wrong but it looks to me as if the middle class should change our name to the working poor. I think the future will show me to be correct... but I hope I am wrong.

[conservdem]

27. I supported Biden and now switched to Obama.

I hope you and your fellow Edwards supporters will come over and support Obama soon. IMO Edwards could play a great roll in a Obama administration, perhaps AG.

[xchrom]

37. NObama for me. enjoy your win.

[chimpymustgo]

54. There's something knows as a "decent interval." Edwards says he's staying in and we're staying with

him.

We're just looking to comfort each other a little tonight, thank you.

[MissDeeds]

102. Word

With JE to the end. There is no substitute for him.

[zalinda]

95. No, never.........can't stand the man. n/t

[JDPriestly]

121. No way. I suspect Obama people were behind the robocalls

attributed to the Hillary campaign.

In addition, thanks to Obama's view of Reagan and his talk of the "excesses of the '60s and '70s," I do not want to see him become president.

I would like to know whether Obama's family supported Reagan. I have a suspicion, but no evidence, that he heard pro-Reagan information from his grandparents in Hawaii around the Reagan election. His grandmother was a bank vice-president from conservative Kansas. There is nothing wrong with that. Hillary was a Goldwater Republican and is honest about her past. But, Obama never says much about the political views of his grandparents in Hawaii when he was growing up. As a matter, he does not say much about them at all, and I wonder why not.

Please don't post pro-Obama stuff on this thread. It is really inappropriate. I have noticed that a lot of Obama supporters are insensitive to the feelings of others. I assume that is because they have not been active in politics very long.

What Hillary and Obama are doing is extremely unwise. They are offending each other's supporters -- as well as us Edwards supporters. I don't picture myself voting for either Hillary or Obama in November.

I plan to write Edwards' name in regardless of what happens from now on. I know Edwards wants us to vote for the party, but I honestly do not trust or respect either Hillary or Obama at this point. They have not demanded that the media cover the campaign so as to give all candidates a fair chance. This has not only harmed Edwards. This harms the voters who were not permitted to get to know our great candidates. The Republican minor players got a lot more play than Biden, Dodd, Richardson or Kucinich.

Of our candidates, the only ones getting coverage are Hillary and Obama. I will vote for Edwards to protest the media's handling of the campaign as much as to vote against Hillary and Obama.

Sorry for the ramble.

[OmahaBlueDog]

29. Serious Question

Do you want John to ?

a) Keep campaigning, hope there's no first ballot nominee, and see what happens

-or-

b) Endorse one of the two frontrunners and bow out

[jkurri]

34. keep going

[liberalla]

87. Definitely choice A !

a) Keep campaigning, hope there's no first ballot nominee, and see what happens

It's too early to bow out!

[zalinda]

97. Keep going........... n/t

[MissDeeds]

111. Keep going

Who could he possibly endorse? The other two are not in the same ballpark.
John Edwards is the best choice for our party and the best hope for this country. Period.

[JDPriestly]

119. Keep campaigning.

The other two are hopelessly dividing the party.

Edwards will be the unity candidate.

[Political Heretic]

145. There's no reason to bow out. He's the one with the best message.

And he should be shouting the message and forcing the other candidates to address his issues until the convention.

[Lucinda]

30. I'm very dissapointed.

I was pretty sure Obama would win, but I really thought JE was going to have a much better night.

[Darth_Kitten]

32. Yeah, both Clinton and Obama get rewarded for throwing temper......

tantrums.

Most voters don't have a clue as to what they really want. Not just in the U.S.

Most people are NOT involved in the political process.

Why even try? People are just plain stupid. :rant:

[fooj]

33. The South Carolina Election Commission website has zeros for every county.

Where the hell are they getting these #'s?

http://www.scvotes.org/

It's all about the CORPORATE MEDIA baby...

:puke:

[Beaverhausen]

40. i'm getting numbers here

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/SC.html

[SeattleGirl]

44. Thanks. I gave up on the SC site, because nothing was being posted.

:thumbsup:

[fooj]

51. Maybe there's a reason for that.

[fooj]

50. Shouldn't they be on the actual SC website?

Where is CNN and MSNBC getting their numbers?

Didn't the NY Times just endorse Clinton? I'll wait until I see the actual state count. Thanks, though. I don't mean to be grouchy...it's just frustrating.

[Beaverhausen]

53. I agree- but they aren't there

and with only 8% in I'm still hopeful for second!

[bdamomma]

118. geez, me too not all the votes are in yet.

it's not over till it's over.

[Stand and Fight]

41. Yeah!

What the hell is that all about?

[caseycoon]

36. DK was my 1st choice so I'm used to the brick walls.

I am sad though.
We really need Edwards!
:cry:

[bdamomma]

105. yea, Edwards was my second choice, my first choice bowed out

quickly Biden, but I loved Dennis too. It's not over yet for Edwards they are still getting in votes.:grouphug: I think we all need this.

[xchrom]

38. sigh

:banghead:

[Barack_America]

43. Hey guys, I'm sorry about that. He deserved at least second.

There were a lot of people who went into those booths supporting Edwards, but thinking they had to choose between Clinton and Obama.

[RestoreGore]

46. yes, and the media is only pushing this along...

They want that "first" whether it is a black man or a white woman. They don't care about issues or who has the better policies. And I am beginning to really become disillusioned with the American people. People who only vote for a candidate because of race or gender do not serve this country well, and I don't care if you vote for someone only because they are black, white, red, a woman, or a man just because you are one too. I will continue to support John Edwards in this because of his policies, but I can't help feeling a bit discouraged at this point.

[fooj]

55. There's ABSOLUTELY nothing posted at the SC Election Commission's site.

I want to know where they are getting their #'s.

[Wednesdays]

66. There's nothing at the South Carolina Democratic Party site, either

Just a bunch of goose eggs. :shrug:

http://www.scdp.org/primary_results/

[fooj]

75. Yet the MSM has already DICTATED who the winners are...

How the hell do they know that Hillary came in second? Hell, we can't even get any "hard numbers"...

[RestoreGore]

79. Diebold?

[MichDem10]

47. THUD!!!!! Democrats are SO STUPID!!

:banghead: :hide: :yoiks:

[GoldieAZ49]

48. This may have helped

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Clinton_robocalls_hit_Edwards.html

Clinton robocalls hit Edwards

Guess he's still relevant enough to merit a robocall from Hillary that hits him on policy and character.

Here's the call (.mp3), and here's the transcript, from The Page:

Hello, This is the Hillary Clinton for President Campaign.

Before you vote on Saturday, you should know that John Edwards voted for permanent trade relations with China. That’s right, John Edwards voted for the bill that cost thousands of jobs. Like the ones in the textile mills he talks about so much down here.

You should also know that John Edwards made nearly a half a million dollars working for a Wall Street investment fund. A fund that’s been profiting on foreclosing on the homes of families; including 100 homes right here in South Carolina. That’s according to The State newspaper. Here in South Carolina, Edwards says he’s one of us, but up on Wall Street he was just another one of them.

Can you trust John Edwards?

[frogmarch]

49. Even the blacks and women in my family know,

and are saying, that the Dem primaries this year are all about race and gender, not the issues.

I'm going to go get me some chocolate before everyone here beats me to it.

[Blue_In_AK]

61. I get slammed for saying this...

but I really do think there is reverse discrimination going on this year against John Edwards. If Barack was white and Hillary a man, my guess is the results of these primaries and caucuses would be a whole different story. It's impossible for a lot of people to resist the urge to vote for a "first" when discrimination has been such an issue in this country.

It's sad, really. I'm looking forward to the day when race and gender are irrelevant in any way.

[frogmarch]

72. I look forward to it, too, Blue. And I agree with

everything you said. My many-hued family does too.

[SammyWinstonJack]

74. .

:thumbsup: What will the Hillary Obama supporters say when their candidate loses the GE? Who will they blame it on?

[nonconformist]

147. The racists and the sexists. Watch and see.

:(

[SammyWinstonJack]

151. Probably right, because they will never blame themselves.

x(

[JDPriestly]

138. You are right and a lot of it is also age discrimination.

Hillary appeals to older voters and Obama to younger voters.

Young people are voting against older candidates.

[Geek_Girl]

56. I think he's the best candidate on the issues and the most electable

It's a shame that voters are bedazzled by the Clinton's legacy and Obama's charisma. Not too mention their outward appearance reflects change but unfortunately their policies do not.

If we loose in '08 I guess we can blame the shallowness and short sightedness of our party.



:banghead: :banghead::banghead::banghead:

[stravu9]

57. I Am Weeping AS I Type This. Okay , They win. I Give UP!

I won't be posting for a while if again at all.
I cannot believe they treated John that way and though I am crying now later I'll be angry and the Party's nominee may play hell getting my vote. Oh, I can support local candidates , maybe join the Gubernatorial campaign but I will not have yard signs and bumper sticker for Hillary or Obama.
When I first began posting I did so just because of John.
I'll leave the same way.
I have lost faith in the Democratic Party .
I can't take another corporate Democrat.

[fooj]

63. NGU.

:hug:

[stravu9]

106. thanks!

:cry:

[PresidentObama]

73. I got teary eyed reading your post, don't give up.

I don't know what else to say but that.

[stravu9]

81. thanks!

:cry:

[bdamomma]

82. don't give up.

[stravu9]

96. thanks:

:cry:

[frogmarch]

89. Please don't give up!

I feel weepy too, but I had some chocolate, and now I'm ready to help John kick butt!

It's not over.

[stravu9]

92. Give me a day or 2 maybe

I can bounce back.

[Lugnut]

91. Don't give up.

John isn't giving up. :hug:

[stravu9]

98. Poor John!

:cry: !!

[MissDeeds]

149. I'm right there with you

I'm weeping too. I cannot believe the Democratic Party is coming down to a choice between two political hacks who put personal agendas above public good. I WILL vote for John Edwards on election day and then change my affiliation to unaffiliated. I cannot believe this is what the Democratic Party has become. Didn't we once stand for those who no longer had a voice? Didn't we hold THE PEOPLE in the highest regard and question the motives of corporations and power brokers? Is this still the Democratic Party, or is it simply the party of the monied?

[stravu9]

156. you and me both!

[beachmom]

58. Sorry, Kerry2008, that things didn't go well for your guy tonight.

:hug:

[PresidentObama]

69. Thank you beachmom

:)

[bdamomma]

76. he's a fighter and he is in for the long haul.

I believe in John.

[LowerManhattanite]

59. Don't do that.

Be proud of your candidate.

He has a good heart and has a great message.

Stay strong!

[chimpymustgo]

64. Hey guys, don't post in the "sympathy" threads by certain other supporters who have trashed everyone

Please leave them to gloat ALONE.

[jackson_dem]

67. Edwards will win a healthy bag of delegates. He did better than expected a week ago

He also won the white vote. If he does well among whites on Super Tuesday he is in good shape. We always knew Edwards had no shot at winning South Carolina this time.

[fooj]

77. There aren't ANY official numbers up yet.

South Carolina Election Commission hasn't posted ONE VOTE on their website. We've been had. Again.

[ngGale]

68. I'm at my wits end...

:grr: :banghead:

I think I am having a nervous breakdown! Self destruct: :nuke:


The thoughts of another Repub administration...:scared:
Helps me think I can eventually, not break the Dem party vote. But...it's going to take me a long time.

Just do not understand voting against your own self-interest! :cry:

The past two days the media has been pushing the question: Should John Edwards get out of the race IF he doesn't win in South Carolina. Now the big push starts!

My answer: Hell, NO.

My primary vote will go to Edwards, either way!:hug:

[chimpymustgo]

86. Godfather II just started on A & E. "Breach" (Robert Hanson spy case" on HBO. Have a drink.

I love you guys. We've fought the good fight. Gotta relax and rest up. Tomorrow begins today!

[tnlefty]

83. No headbanging here as I get an instant headache.

Merlot, on the other hand, may give me a headache but it will be later. Edwards will be in town Mon. morning and I'll be there.

For over a year the media has set up the 'firsts' and it's hard to break through that to be heard much, and it is frustrating. Here, :beer:

[bdamomma]

112. hey tnlefty,!!!!!

our guy isn't finished yet, he is in for the long haul, he's supposed to be speaking after Obama.

I think I'll join you in one of those!!!:hi: :beer:

[usregimechange]

84. Guys, your candidate is awesome! Best of luck for super tues!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

88. The voting equipment used in South Carolina primaries have NO PAPER TRAIL

I I believe John Edwards got way more than "19%" of the votes.
(BTW, SC uses ES&S voting machines)
(I believe this election was stolen)

[RestoreGore]

107. I don't believe John Edwards only has 19% in South Carolina either

[Turn CO Blue]

90. Thwump. Ouch! Thwump. Ouch! Thwump. Ouch!

:banghead:

:banghead:

:banghead:

[lisainmilo]

94. I expected it....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4214182#4214272

still feels shitty though.

Onward and Upward! :yoiks: :argh:

[Bluerthanblue]

hey guys-

I'm sorry.

:grouphug:

It doesn't make sense.


no sarcasm, no gloat, nothing but wishing it wasn't this way-

peace~

[JDPriestly]

140. Edwards supporters will be gloating and saying "I told you so"

in November. You cannot win an election with a party divided on race and gender lines. And I would not trust a Clinton/Obama ticket to hold together and win after the rancor that the two sides have exhibited thus far during the campaign. It's too ugly to believe. Each side is really appealing to the lowest common denominators: age, race and gender. It's pretty bad.

[MissDeeds]

157. One of the best posts of the night

Obama or Clinton will not carry the GE. They are too divisive. Edwards is our best hope of winning the election and turning this country around.

[mac56]

99. I'm bumming hard. I always expect shortsightedness from the Repubs..

but not from my own party.

Shortsightedness and the cult of personality are at work here.

I'm backing John all the way, either till he wins or he decides it's not worth going on.

I'm not sure what I'll do in November. I can't support a corporate Dem, and I can't support an inexperienced centrist.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

108. That is why Clinton and Obama are "winning"...

I can't support a corporate Dem, and I can't support an inexperienced centrist

Those 2 candidates are polarizing, and there is no solidarity behind either. Makes it easier, come November, for heavy sleight of hand with the election results... That is why the media spotlight only shines on those 2.

[K8-EEE]

101. I'm very bummed out....

but not as bummed out as if Hillary would have won.

[ozone_man]

103. I wasn't expecting a win by Edwards.

Face it, the rest of the country isn't quite ready for a great candidate like Edwards in 2008, or Dean in 2004 (my candidate). I'm used to perpetual disappointment when it comes to politics. One concession after another. But it isn't over yet, and Edwards wins delegates in SC and will hopefully win many more in the upcoming contests. We'll see at the convention how it all plays out. There may be some surprises.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

137. But the country is MORE ready for Clinton or Obama?

I saw this coming last summer... what a nightmare

[Samantha]

104. I really like John Edwards and his base has not seen the last of

him. Don't bang your head up against the wall. The Fat Lady has not yet sung.

Sam

PS: My prediction: in 2009, you will see John Edwards sitting in a very prominent political place. And you will be pleased, as well as proud.

[JDPriestly]

110. Thanks for your post.

At this point, I am so disgusted with the press, Hillary and Obama that I don't feel like even voting come November.

I have heard about robocalls made in the name of the Clinton campaign. I hope that proves to be a false accusation because frankly I will not vote for Clinton in November if it turns out to be true that her supporters funded those calls. That is just completely beyond the pale.

Here's why:

The call allegedly criticized Edwards' vote on the China Trade Bill. That was Clinton's pet project -- described by some as the crowning achievement of his presidency. What hypocrisy for Hillary to claim experience during Bill Clinton's presidency and then criticize Edwards for having voted for a bill that Clinton wanted to have passed.

The call also allegedly criticized Edwards for making money at a hedge fund. Well, Hillary's campaign is funded by business interests, and remember the Republicans' criticisms of Hillary for making so much money on a commodity trade? If Hillary is behind the calls, she is extremely hypocritical and stupid to boot. Edwards voters are committed Democrats and extremely intelligent. It is stupid for any candidate to offend us because we work and write and when we talk to people, we are powerful. Think Thom Hartmann.

It does not make sense to me that Hillary actually made those calls. The things that allegedly were said sound more like what I have heard from Obama's supporters. I think that both the Edwards and Clinton campaigns may want to find out where the calls came from. There may have been deception at work here.

[liberalla]

113. for some strange reason I'm not feeling discouraged

Maybe it's denial, maybe it's because I kept my expectations in check (after Nevada), or maybe it's because I'm an idealistic dreamer...

...but I'm not giving up, I'm not dejected, and I still think anything can happen.

Things changed this past week, and Edwards was moving up. The more people see him, the better they like him. He's keeping the focus on important issues. He's been raising money. I hope he continues his campaign. Onward and upward!
:patriot:
Onwards, Upwards, Edwards. 2008

[bdamomma]

125. he is moving up definitely, it's not over yet.

I feel the same way, it's way too soon yet,there are alot of states to go. I love John and his message, he is our best hope.

[Mark Twain Girl]

143. Yes, I'm actually in the same place - maybe we're a strange pessimist/idealist

hybrid! Edwards was the one who shook me out of my disaffected sleep, and really, while I'll vote against the R's regardless in the general, I'm not someone who would have been out supporting another Dem contender, if Edwards weren't around. I'd just tune it out, struggle to make a living, and hold my nose for whatever Dem came along. Having someone I support so strongly is a paradigm shift for me to begin with, so I'm pretty open to the journey.

That being said, I'm not really upset. I am astonished that JE ended up getting heard *at all* on the M$M, and every time he did, he got a message out there that we believe in. Every day he's still in the ring fighting, he gets a message out there. His latest comments about health care are a prime example. Every day he keeps at it, hammering out his message, it's harder to shift the conversation to the right. Every day he's out there saying that yes, vets are sleeping on the streets, that's something amazing, in this controlled infotainment atmosphere. Every time he can bring a debate back down to real issues, that's a victory. Would I prefer to have delegates on top of that? Absolutely. But at the same time, I feel oddly encouraged, like something real is leaking out the cracked edges of a rigged game.

For the first time today, I saw a car with an Edwards 08 sticker. I gasped and waved! Since the SC debate, people I know are mentioning Edwards' name for the first time, and always in connection with the issues he raised. Keeping those issues on the table feels so important to me, Edwards has my support until the end.

Cheers, friend. :) Onward and upward!

[liberalla]

155. Thanks for your reply!

What a great post. Thank you for your conviction - it feels good, doesn't it?
Onward and upward! :toast:

and now, I'm off to order some Edwards bumper stickers!

[BlackVelvet04]

116. Tonight we lick our wounds....

and tomorrow we vow to work harder. I've seen some GREAT John Edwards videos from DUers....let's plaster them where ever we can. We could use MORE.

Who can come up with a facts sheet that we can distribute? If someone helps with the info I will do the graphics.

What else can we do?

And BTW.....THIS SUCKS!

[Armstead]

122. I'm beginning to get callouses on my forehead

[GreenPartyVoter]

124. Yeah. First DK drops out and now JE, my second place guy, isn't running as

strongly as I would have hoped.

[bdamomma]

129. it's not over yet, John will get his message out there.

:patriot:

[Occam Bandage]

126. I was hoping to see him do better. I really thought he would. This should have been his night.

[Kucinich4America]

127. This really fucking blows.

First Dennis drops out, and then this happens just two days later. It seems like nobody gives a fuck about saving this country anymore. :evilfrown:

[SammyWinstonJack]

131. DO NOT GIVE UP!

[bdamomma]

134. John gives a fuck about the country. He is in it for the long haul.

His message will be heard.

[JDPriestly]

146. I hope that the One Corps movement grows into something

that focuses political attention on the poor at a nationwide level. This has been an important issue for me since I was a child. There are lots of organizations that work on specific issues. But I don't know of anything besides the Southern Poverty Law Center that does much, and that group works more from the civil rights angle.

We need an umbrella organization that speaks out, kind of advocates and maybe even lobbies on all of the poverty issues across race, gender and age lines.

[MzShellG]

130. I sincerely feel bad for John Edwards

I really was rooting for him to have a good 2nd place showing in the results. He's always been my 2nd choice. This is disappointing. I attended one of his rallys, and even stood in a crowd on stage behind him. :shrug:

[Catherine Vincent]

133. Hang in there, John!

[bdamomma]

136. I'm sure he is, he's giving his speech after Obama I think.

[asdjrocky]

135. America-

Land of the stupid, home of the lame.

[Lugnut]

141. I'll second that.

:hug:

[bdamomma]

139. kick

[nonconformist]

148. I'm really sad tonight... this is very hard.

And it's very unfair.

[bdamomma]

152. I know it may seem to be unfair.

but John is not giving up and neither am I. It's only the beginning, and we have a long way to go.:hug:

[bdamomma]

150. when is John going to give his speech.

[bdamomma]

153. I am kickin for John

:kick:

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

154. He may have come in third in popular vote but,

according to the delegate count on CNN, he recieved 2 delegates, the same number Hillary will get. So, all in all it's not the end of the world!!

[AgadorSparticus]

159. Like you, I TRULY believe John is the real deal. And it is sad to see that

he's not getting a fair shake. It really bugged the crap out of me that MSNBC left him out after the NV debate and just zeroed in on Hillary signing autographs and then Tweety annointing Hillary the presidential winner just made me nauseous. C'mon. Enough is enough.

BUT I am hopeful because tonight he said something about the money is coming in so, I'm hoping that he is picking up steam.