ORWELLIAN DOUBLESPEAK becomes the official language of DU

[ClericJohnPreston]

When it's members prove themselves so malleable, they actually fall before the illogic and manipulations of "SPIN".

I thought "1984" Orwellian "Doublespeak" was a nightmare vision of a fictional Totalitarian regime. Yet, it is alive and well here at the DU forums.

Are you all so desperate to win at all costs, that you actually now spin what a "win" means?

I thought Bush's , "WAR IS PEACE" and "KNOWLEDGE IS IGNORANCE" rhetoric was just a part of his Republican foisted nightmare. Now, I find that partisans on this board have accepted this pretzel logic in preference to truth.

The moment you have sunken to Orwellian politics and doublespeak, your "win" is a pyrrhic victory.

Being an Edwards supporter, I can honestly say that sometimes it is better to fight and lose, than never to have tried at all. It is only after some of these "victories", that anyone with perspective can see how we all have lost, if winning means we become what we hate.

Sorry, but in my proud VERY left Progressive view of the world, we have all lost when you are reduced to DOUBLESPEAK in order to claim a "WIN".

Sad, very sad.......

[madeline_con]

1. "... you actually now spin what a "win" means?"

That's an affirmative.

[ClericJohnPreston]

5. very sad....

and worse, you're proud of that fact.

[madeline_con]

8. Sez who?

I really have a problem with people putting words in my mouth! I'd appreciate it if you stopped.

[ClericJohnPreston]

11. You put the words there

I characterized them. As a lawyer, I'll take the characterization back. But, are you trying to refefine what a "WIN" means? You answer. Or not. In this case, the words speak for themselves.

In Latin, we would say, RES IPSA LOQUITUR.

[madeline_con]

13. Your question was...

"Are you all so desperate to win at all costs, that you actually now spin what a "win" means?"

I said, essentially, YES.

Both Clinton and Obama supporters are claiming victory, so it seems it IS an affirmative.

I never said I was proud of either side doing it. I support Edwards.

[sniffa]

2. This reads like my candidate's writings.

I have to support it. :thumbsup:

[Chovexani]

4. Clearly knows what's up with the Eye Spy Military Community

:thumbsup:

[sniffa]

7. All three?

National and International?

:hi:

[no name no slogan]

20. Glad to see I wasn't alone in recognizin a Mercernary

:thumbsup:

[jpgray]

3. I'd say it's more about favorable/unfavorable interpretations of the same facts

Pursuant to whomever the poster supports. :D

[HeraldSquare212]

6. In the early states, winning the vote is what's more meaningful

for perception purposes. (Though at this point, Obama and Clinton are in all the way, so perception doesn't really matter as much as it does, say, on the Rep side.) Come Super Tuesday, it is all about delegates.

[DrFunkenstein]

9. "I Was Against The War From The Very Beginning"

Enough of these Democrats suggesting that keeping nuclear bombs "on the table" and giving Bush an opening to invade Iran are the way to peace.

[AntiFascist]

18. But Hillary is the hawkish Valkyrien Goddess of Peace! n/t

[depakid]

10. It's the official language of America

and its culture of lies all around.

Don't see that changing any time soon.

[ClericJohnPreston]

12. as I said, very, very sad.

[Quantess]

14. Well, I think it's great.

:popcorn:

[ClericJohnPreston]

15. Then again

there is no accounting for taste....or brains :)

Go be a little corporate manipulated consumer.

[Quantess]

17. I was hoping you'd write a snappy admonishment just for me.

Thanks.:D

[IndianaJones]

16. thank god you've come along to tell us. nt.

[mtnsnake]

19. Interesting post, CJP. Good stuff!

Glad to recommend a sincere post like yours that comes right from the heart and makes sense to spare :thumbsup: