anybody besides me outraged at lawrence o'donnell's comments on KO last night?

[niyad]

he said, (roughly quoting) "nobody is upset about ronald reagan except a few left-wingers" and went on to talk about the week-long television coverage of his death and funeral, and how he was practically anointed a saint.

I wanted to throw something at him. WHY is this clueless cretin on KO or on huffpo?

note to lawrence: you are so wrong. there are MANY of us who haven't forgotten what he did TO this country.

(by the way, is he by any chance related to dear whora o'donnell?"

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

1. I had no choice but to accept his comments as true

Since there are Reagan apologists even on DU, he's probably right.

I was surprised to learn that some, even at a distinctly left site like DU, view Reagan differently than they do George W Bush (or Nixon).

But having seen it, I had to adjust me sense of public perception of Reagan's "legacy."

[AndyTiedye]

2. Even Nixon and Reagan Look Good When Compared to Bush**

That is not praising Nixon or Reagan, it is a statement of how bad Bush** is.

[ellacott]

3. I liked it n/t

[shireen]

4. i heard that, what a hit to his credibility! nt

[gkhouston]

5. I laughed out loud when he made that comment.

Mr. O'Donnell, what MSNBC chooses to broadcast does NOT define reality. Just because MSNBC decided to pimp Reagan for a week doesn't mean people living in the real world actually bought that shit.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

6. O'Donnell was covering Obama's ass...

His comment was in response to KO's direct question about if Obama's pro-Ronnie remarks would hurt him.

Don't forget, O'Donnell earlier practically hung the "racist" label on Edwards for standing in the way of America's first black President. :eyes:

Ol' Larry has an agenda, it appears...

And yes, it infuriated me, especially as a Californian. I remeber w-a-y too much about "Saint" Ronnie to be suckered by Reagenbots or O'Donnell. :mad:

[redqueen]

15. You must have really loved his claim that Californians just loooove Ronnie.

What a mendacious asshole.

And I'm pretty disgusted that Keith said *nothing* to counter any of his unadulterated bullshit.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

25. Oh man I was s-t-e-a-m-i-n-g...

As someone who witnessed first hand the destruction of our State mental health care system, and the thousands of immigrants to my city that was a direct results of our war on Central America, and the destruction of my community due to HIV/AIDS -- all gifts from "Saint" Ronnie -- I want to go on record as saying,

"Fuck Ronald Reagan."

And fuck Lawrence O'Donnell.

[Blue_In_AK]

27. Oh, gee, I thought all Californians LOVED Ronnie,

at least that's what O'Donnell said. I remember Reagan from his days as governor, too. What a hateful piece of shit he was, with all that talk about bloodbaths and so on. :puke:

[Yael]

7. Mad? I was spitting nails

Not to mention Edwards "isn't relevant" and the caucus goers are too stupid to know or care about history.

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

8. I used to get pissed at Janeane Garofalo for constantly dragging him on her AAR show

I'm glad he finally embarrassed her with that "Edwards is a racist" crap, there's no way she could defend that. I think she's just been sucking up to him for TV gigs (he produced West Wing, which she did appear on.)

[MrCoffee]

9. I don't have cable...is this the same guy who was a producer/actor on The West Wing?

that Lawrence O'Donnell?

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

10. Yes

it is

[MrCoffee]

11. he's a pundit now?

no one will ever be able to convince me to get cable ever again. :rofl:

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

13. Yeah

Love your nick, that's pretty funny.

[redqueen]

17. Teevee news is a scam... I thought Olbermann was worth watching.

I dunno, if he lets shit like that get by without comment.



But I'll keep cable thanks, gotta have my footie. :)

[MrCoffee]

20. seriously...go FULHAM!

[redqueen]

22. PTHBHTHHBHTHBT!

:P

[DaLittle Kitty]

21. So Networks Recruit TV News Experts From The Screen Actors Guild? WTF!!!!!!

:wtf: O'Donnel is a lying POS shill for "The Status Quo." That Is Corporate America! He's NOT The ONLY One Either! Anderson Cooper is a Paid Shill as well on the Clinton Nominating Network! :nuke:

[FrenchieCat]

12. I think that he' s an independent thinker......

and reflects a rationality not found on these boards.

I agree with him that discussing Reagan's effectiveness in the '80 (in pushing a conservative agenda on us)is simply not a crime, and that it only makes Democrats who are outraged at even the mention of Reagan, to be only a small minority.

Certainly Reagan was not good for this country....but certainly it has to be recognized that he knew how to get the American people on his side. To believe that a Democrat cannot make these observations only shows that we have become closed minded ideologues no better than those we point at and yell...."wrong"!

[niyad]

19. to bring him up in a positive context, to say that the peolpe of CA just LOOOVE him

(believe me, living there, and having many friends there, I know better) and just generally making a saint out of him, ) is plain BS, and calling those who do it on their BS does not make us idealogues.

[FrenchieCat]

29. I live in California too......and it is a big state........

and I don't think you know better than me necessarily.

And I don't believe in canonizing anyone.

You are only an idealogue if that is your conclusion.

[redqueen]

14. He also said that the union people in NV weren't "sharp enough"

to know how Reagan screwed unions over.


And that Edwards is "irrelevant".

And Keith said NOTHING.

[MrCoffee]

16. Reagan didn't screw unions over...he killed them dead.

[redqueen]

18. What's funny is that that idiotic blowhard thinks nobody at these caucuses

will bother to mention to the young & "not so sharp" union members what they remember about ole Saint Ronnie of the Magical Hope and Optimism.

What a fucktard.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

23. Keith is on this tonight...

It seems he was unaware of O'Donnell's hit piece on Edwards re: Obama. He will be addressing this tonight. Thanks to Kpete for posting this!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2713114

[redqueen]

26. Well that's good news... I guess I'll watch his show again.

I was SO PISSED.

[Catchawave]

24. Keith's diary on Daily Kos !

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/18/135219/103/392/438962


Lawrence O'Donnell
by Keith Olbermann
Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 02:00:01 PM EST
Forgive the fairly minor focus here but I spot at least three diaries on his appearance on Countdown last night to discuss Obama, Reagan, and Edwards.

Those of you complaining about it are right.

Keith Olbermann's diary :: ::
His HuffPo piece was news to me.

Shouldn't have been, obviously, but it was.

I don't read every blog, nor everything written by my guests. I often don't know until an hour beforehand who will be a guest on a given show (if it matters to you, these scheduling nightmares tend to come in waves for some reason, and last night was a Nor'easter). Also, to announce, on-air, each guest's preferences, prejudices, shillings and shiv jobs, would reduce the rest of the show to "Good Evening. Call Me Ishmael. My Boat Sank. The End. Good Night." And Lawrence O'Donnell's insight is almost always perceptive, relevant, and enlightened.

But even with these caveats, the point about this appearance, especially in the wake of such a freshly-written piece, is well-taken and I'm very sorry.

It will be addressed tonight on the show.

Thanks.

[Big Blue Marble]

28. We are not objective on the issue of Reagan.

He is a popular president even though we hate him. Most of the country rates him as a great president.
Lawrence O'Donald understands this, we do not.

"Reagan's present-day, retrospective approval ratings are quite high, significantly higher than when he was in office."

"73% of people in a 2002 poll retroactively approved of Reagan's performance while in office, which is much higher than his 53% average at the time.
This places him 2nd out of the last 8 presidents, behind only Kennedy."

http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/000047.html