Are we forgetting the lessons learned in 2000?

[cornermouse]

In the mad rush to show the voters that democrats are centrist, have we forgotten...

That Gore was centrist not "leftist", a Washington insider, and accused of being stiff and wooden.

Looks like we're going to have Kerry this time. Whatever liberal leanings he had in the past, his recent voting record has not been liberal at all. He is a vintage Washington insider and now that Dean is safely out of the way, he's returning to his usual stiff and wooden self.

So I'm asking. Are the democrats repeating their mistake?

[sangh0]

1. What mistake?

We won in 2000. Have you forgotten already?

[cornermouse]

6. No. But I don't see Gore in the White House either.

[sangh0]

10. We didn't lose an election

We lost a court case, and it was stacked from the get go

Try again. Simple slogans don't work on DU

[cornermouse]

12. Fact not slogan. Gore is not in the White House.

And it is a fact/reality for which this country and its people are paying dearly.

Denying reality goes nowhere.

[sangh0]

13. Fact: Gore won the election

which, I noticed, is a fact you won't dare to refute.

[cornermouse]

15. Fact. Gore is not in the White House.

Something that you have not been able to refute.

[disenfranchised]

14. The Repubs will use all their tricks again.

The Republicans showed that the American public is complacent when votes aren't counted, voting lists are purged, minorities are intimidated from voting, military votes are wrongly counted, etc.

Of course, they are going to pull out all the stops this time. What's stopping them?

Kerry doesn't leave a lot of margin for error. When the Repubs play their tricks, I feel his little margin won't be enough.

Edwards can contest more states than Kerry. He can appeal to a broader, more conservative base which will counter votes lost to Nader and the Green Party. Plus, he will be an asset in Southern House and Senate elections if he is in office.

[corporatewhore]

2. nobody learned from 2002 either apparently

[cornermouse]

11. Actually, I'm rather upset with 2002 also.

I think the democrats sort of laid back and really missed an opportunity to derail Bush in midstream.

[everythingsxen]

3. It doesn't matter..

even if Kerry wins (he won't) he is just another shill of the corporate masters. No offense. I am just a cynic.

[corporatewhore]

8. how about logical NAFTAGATTWTOIMF yep you are correct

[emulatorloo]

4. Here's how the lessons learned in 2000 will be applied in 2004

Nobody who voted for Gore will vote for bush
People who voted for Nadir will be more careful with their vote this time
Not Everybody who voted for Bush will vote for him again
People who didnt come out in 2000 will come out in droves to vote for the Dem

P.S. Kerry is not at all the person you describe, IMHO. He is tough and he is a fighter and he is not AL Gore.

[Imajika]

5. Kerry has looked pretty good so far...

..in my opinion.

But I have a different concern than you. I think Kerry's voting record and policy positions might very well be too liberal to win a general election against Bush.

Against the dealth penalty? Most Americans do not share this opinion, and the GOP will go after Kerry strongly on it.

Voted against DOMA? Yet says he is against gay marriage? This doesn't make very much sense.

Yeah, Kerry is a war hero, but some of this testimony of his when he was speaking against the Vietnam war is going to be used as club to beat the tar out of him.

How do you vote against the war against Iraq in 90' - 91', then vote for the war in Iraq this time around, then vote against funding the war and reconstruction effort for a war he had just voted for? I just think it seems odd.

Kerry is looking good so far, and I am honestly impressed. He doesn't seem wooden to me and if he keeps it up he may definately give Bush a run for his money.

Still though, I really, really, really believe that Edwards would have been a better candidate against Bush. I am disappointed that Edwards will probably not win the nomination, and worried about Kerry's chances.

But I will get behind Kerry, contribute, volunteer, and do my best to stop bitching once it is absolutely clear Kerry is the official nominee.

We all need to get together with the common goal of getting rid of Bush.

Imajika

[cornermouse]

9. I'm sorry, but I see some real problems with Kerry

I will be voting for him, but if Bush gets in again, in all honesty, I'm going to be mad at both republicans and democrats

[bigtree]

7. Too right for the left, too left for the right

Centrist.

[Paradise]

16. nooo...

it's not US making the mistake, it's M O-M E N-T U M!