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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:59 PM
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Kucinich falls behind in 'corrupt system'

When the time came for the Nation magazine, the country's top liberal rag, to give a presidential endorsement, they responded decisively: "In his stands on the issues, Dennis Kucinich comes closest to embodying the ideals of this magazine. A vote for him would be a principled one."

That's unsurprising. Kucinich is the only one running who, not only voted against the war, but voted against funding it 100 percent of the time. He has a 100 percent pro-labor, pro-gay rights, pro-environment, pro-fair trade voting record.

No candidate wins more blind-polls based on positions; no other candidate is proposing creating a European-style single-payer universal health care system - which 65 percent of Americans want.

Yet the Nation went on to write, "But for reasons that have to do with the corrupting influence of money and media on national elections," they cannot endorse Kucinich.

The Nation's concerns are valid. Kucinich received almost no press coverage from the corporate-run media which, according to a recent study, spent only 6 percent of this election's coverage actually talking about the issues and only 1 percent on candidates' records.

In debates, he already was never allowed to even speak. Since he has never taken corporate donations - he grew up homeless, watching his parents count coins to make ends meet and has vowed never to be bought off by wealthy interests - he has been unable to raise the money necessary to run a large campaign. Still, he raised millions of dollars from the grassroots and recruited thousands of volunteers.

Yet he can't compete with Sen. Barack Obama, who put $9 million dollars into Iowa and received constant media attention.

Don't get me wrong - I am as wowed by Obama's speeches as anyone else, and I find him to be a brilliant young Senator. Yet his presidential run is uninspiring.

He triumphs "change," yet his campaign takes more money from the insurance industry than any other candidate except Sen. Hillary Clinton. His health care plan is crafted with that in mind - it gives billions of taxpayer dollars to the HMOs and leaves millions of people uninsured to keep alive the for-profit beast.

While reminding us that he gave a speech calling the Iraq war "stupid" in 2002, he went silent on the issue when he reached the Senate - constantly voting to fund it and against withdrawal. When ultra-hawk Joe Lieberman was facing an antiwar challenger, Obama appeared at his side, calling Lieberman his "mentor."

At a recent debate, he wouldn't promise to end the Iraq occupation by 2013. His policy team is a Wall Street wet-dream: Lehman Brothers financiers, Citigroup, defense contractors, insurance lobbyists. Edwards and Clinton have assembled similar policy teams packed full of corporate insiders and entrenched military-industrial interests.

They talk about change, but they represent Bushism without Bush. They represent the corporate wing of the Democratic Party, whose President Clinton passed the horrific NAFTA and "welfare reform," and whose embargo against Iraq murdered more than 500,000 children.

Some people wonder why Kucinich chooses to run in such a corrupt system. When I met him, I finally understood. In his mind, he's still just Dennis from west Cleveland, working three jobs to pull his family out of poverty.

And he sees us - this country, the world - as his family. And maybe one day, we'll live in a truly democratic country, where someone can win on the strength of their ideas, not on their ability to please corporate financiers and media. Until the day comes, I say give 'em hell, Dennis. You have my vote.

- Zaid Jilani is a sophomore from Kennesaw majoring in international affairs.
http://media.www.redandblack.com/media/storage/paper871/news/2008/01/14/Opinions/Kucinich.Falls.Behind.In.corrupt.System-3150435.shtml

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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:01 PM
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1. good for u :)
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:02 PM
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2. "Corrupt system" says it all
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:30 PM
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3. Love this line...
"...And he sees us - this country, the world - as his family..."

It amazes me to see politicians say that they will fight for us when elected, in the meantime we are killing citizens of other countries partially to control their resources and they stay silent.

Are those 4 million Iraqi's not people instead of pawns?

His statement on the night of the Shock and Awe campaign speaks to who Dennis is as a person.

Thanks for posting.


I think he captured the spirit of Dennis pretty well.

"...Some people wonder why Kucinich chooses to run in such a corrupt system. When I met him, I finally understood. In his mind, he's still just Dennis from west Cleveland, working three jobs to pull his family out of poverty.

And he sees us - this country, the world - as his family. And maybe one day, we'll live in a truly democratic country, where someone can win on the strength of their ideas, not on their ability to please corporate financiers and media. Until the day comes, I say give 'em hell, Dennis. You have my vote."
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:46 AM
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4. kick n/t
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:51 AM
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5. I love Kucinich but let me ask something...
how much money has he raised? And in the age of the internet, which truly is an open marketplace of ideas, why can't he create more of a movement? Why was Dean able to blow people away though he started as a very obscure figure from a small state using mainly the internet but yet Kucinich cannot?

It's true that Kucinich is out front and square on the issues, however what about his ability to lead his organization to gain the kind of support he needs.

He is mainly ignored by the press and sometimes marginalized as a "captain moonbeam". But that should not stop him from creating a movement and the type of money that would actually move the press.

Ron Paul has done this and he truly is radical and extreme without a true hope of winning.

These are honest questions, I would love to see Kucinich do better.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:57 AM
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7. Dean got a lot of media
Don't forget that Dean was a media darling before they turned on him after his 3rd place showing in Iowa.

Plus Dean was also one of the first national candidates to use the internet to grow his campaign.
If you're the first to do anything, you get media coverage and notoriety. Nobody cares if you're the second or third.

And comparatively speaking, Ron Paul has gotten tons of coverage-- most of it favorable-- and has been able to turn this to his advantage.

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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:09 PM
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8. That's not how I remember it. Dean started getting media when
he raised A LOT, and I mean A LOT of money.

If anyone got a lot of free media air time then it was Edwards.

But none of that addresses why Kucinich has been unable to find an angle. Edwards is now essentially using Kucinich's attack line, with success.

I'm on board that the MSM is purposefully trying to put certain candidates on ignore (lord knows they did it with Clark).

However, that shouldn't stop Kucinich from raising a lot of money and creating a more popular movement on the internet.

He has to have some of the blame. Just like Clark was a bad campaigner.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:22 PM
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9. People who support Kucinich may not have a lot of $$ to spare....
remember he is going against big money and although he may have a lot of supporters, $20 here and maybe $100 there will not equal up to $500 a plate fundraisers. As I recall, Dean had his share of big money backers. Dennis does not take corporate money. I believe Paul also favors free trade & capitalism, so it would be easier in comparison to DK, for him to get teh big bucks quick.


Please realize there are many who want to stop Dennis. Perhaps it's not really about lack of support as much as it is about WHO HE IS SPEAKING OUT AGAINST.


If we had fair campaigns, the race would not BE about raising tons of money, but about who has the best ideas, plans & solutions.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:27 PM
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10. Obama and Dean raise a lot of money through thousands and thousands
of small donations from working class folks.

I think Kucinich people (esp given his sort of candidacy plays well w/ the latte crowd) can do the same.

I just don't buy the he's 100% victim of the MSM meme. He's got to be accountable for something, just like Clark when he failed to galvanize his fledgling support.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:00 PM
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11. Please...go here ..... take a look.
Open Secrets.


Go ahead and check out some of the categories. Then tell me that Obama,Clinton & others could do as well without their big corporate friends.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:13 PM
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13. Obama and Dean have advantages that Kooch does not.
They DO take money from big organizations (as well as small donations), and they get lots of media attention, which is a big help in raising funds.

Too, they both have support from the Party itself.

Kooch has neither advantage.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:16 PM
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14. I can't help but think those weren't honest questions.
How does anyone who follows politics manage not to recognize how badly the playing field is tilted?
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:19 PM
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15. They are honest questions and I will admit that as an Obama
supporter he has got a HUGE boost from the MSM due to his "rock star" status.

What I'm asking is why Kucinich has never become a rock star, or for any matter, popular.

These are really the questions that Kucinich needs to ask himself.

Being just an "issues" candidate is not enough. There's more to leadership than just being right.

Again, I say this with 100% wish that Kucinich were popular and was a serious threat to the establishment.

I'm glad he's still trying to be onstage.

However, he needs to change his methods or he's deluding his supporters.
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winston61 Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:53 AM
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6. The two party system
makes me want to puke. The corruption of money and pursuit of power is turning this country to shit.
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origin1286 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:07 PM
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12. Need to limit how much people can spend
Public funding. Run a pre-primary primary in each state. Name blind. Have flyers go out to every registered voter containing the stances - but not names - of every major candidate. Then on a certain day have voters from all 50 states go and vote on which candidates stances they liked best.

Top 3 vote getters in each party receive the same amount of public funds.

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Girlieman Donating Member (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:24 PM
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16. How any so called Democrat could support anybody other than Kucinich is beyond me.
It's such no brainer.

DK should be everybody's first choice.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:35 PM
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17. As long as the sheeple follow the MSM in deciding who's "electable"...
... as long as the sheeple keep falling for cheap talk about 'change' from politicians who obviously have no intent to change anything...

... as long as elections and politicians are being bought with big corporate money...

you'll never live in a truly democratic country.
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