Paul Krugman, Christopher Hayes, Ezra Klein On John Edwards-

[asdjrocky]

Here's the way that people who are a lot smarter than me see it--

Paul Krugman in The New York Times:

"On the Democratic side, John Edwards, although never the front-runner, has been driving his party's policy agenda. He's done it again on economic stimulus: last month, before the economic consensus turned as negative as it now has, he proposed a stimulus package including aid to unemployed workers, aid to cash-strapped state and local governments, public investment in alternative energy, and other measures."

Christopher Hayes, in The Nation:

"The fact remains that the Edwards campaign has set the domestic policy agenda for the entire field. He was the first with a bold universal health care plan, the first with an ambitious climate change proposalthat called for cap-and-trade, and the leader on reforming predatory lending practices and raising the minimum wage to a level where it regains its lost purchasing power."

Ezra Klein, in The American Prospect:

"Much more so than Obama, it was Edwards who forced a new style of politics, untethered by the fear and timidity of the 90s,adamant that liberalism was an electoral boon and economic justice a popular sentiment. Knowing they had to defend against his challenge, both Hillary and Obama edged closer to his appeal.

"It left the Democrats in a much stronger position overall, and forced them to argue for, and commit to, a much broader and more inspiring agenda than we otherwise might have seen."

My point? Edwards been the real leader in this race from the very beginning.


Be a real liberal, vote Edwards.

[Armstead]

1. K&R -- He also derves the right to lead the Democrats in the General

[jsamuel]

2. IMO, it isn't important what Edwards deserves, it is what WE deserve. We deserve him as our pres.

We need to keep fighting for him to deserve it though!

[asdjrocky]

4. Couldn't agree more.

Have you heard that Obama now has an 'economic stimulus package'? I always say if your going to steal material, you might as well steal from the best.

[DaLittle Kitty]

73. K&R... Dennis Get The Fu*K Out Of The Way!

This Really Pisses Me Off Tonight If That Little Twerp gets on that debate and starts twisting everything to Protect Hillary and Obama from Edwards! POS! :puke:

[Stevepol]

83. I like Edwards, but some of these statements are just not true.

Kucinich was the first with a complete health care proposal for example, and K's plan is better thought out. Edwards still relies on the present system to deliver the care, while K makes it into a truly government administered system, that is, if I understand it properly. But Dk was talking about this in 04 and before that. Dems need to give him credit at least, even if they don't want to vote for him.

Everybody conveniently ignores Kucinich, who probably was responsible for Edwards adopting a lot of the stuff that he's adopted in his own platform.

That said, I like Edwards a lot and if Kucinich can't get it, I'll gladly cast a vote for Edwards.

[EVDebs]

92. DK was fool enough to bring up UFOs. That alone is enough to disqualify serious consideration

of him to carry the nuclear suitcase. Conveniently, DK must have ignored Obama's little visit to Bloomberg on Nov 29th.

""The pair of politicians discussed a number of domestic issues, including education, climate change and homeland security, Loeser said. He said the meeting was not about joining forces on a ticket or against Obama's chief opponent, Hillary Rodham Clinton.""

Apparently Obama wants to see Bloomberg enter the race or is taking campaign advice ! Obama even picked up the tab for that soiree. It's weird, Obama gives a billionaire a free lunch. Portends much for us should Obama get elected, yet this is who DK supports over Edwards. Some real bad political judgement IMAO.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-11-30-obama-nyc_N.htm

[Snotcicles]

3. He gets my vote and he keeps getting my money. Remember 1/18/08. nt

[pauldg0]

55. Hey folks, don't despare......

...a new article in the Huffington post by Ian Walsh.....

Accounts of Edwards Electoral Death Are Perhaps Premature
Posted January 14, 2008 | 02:43 PM (EST)


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Read More: Barack Obama, Democratic Primaries, John Edwards, John Edwards Nevada, Nevada Caucus, Breaking Politics News



Perhaps all the folks who keep wanting to count Edwards out, should note this poll on Nevada (hat tip David Sirota):

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Barack Obama: 32 percent

Hillary Clinton: 30 percent

John Edwards: 27 percent


It's still close, and Edwards' delegate count is just fine, thanks. He's in the running to be kingmaker at the convention, and if something unpredictable happens, he's still within distance to win it all. He'd be a fool to step out now. Nor does the fact that South Carolina is polling badly for him mean much--it's only one state.

Next, a word for Obama supporters who want Edwards to step out, from Krugman:

Anyway, on Sunday Mr. Obama came out with a real stimulus plan. As was the case with his health care plan, which fell short of universal coverage, his stimulus proposal is similar to those of the other Democratic candidates, but tilted to the right.
For example, the Obama plan appears to contain none of the alternative energy initiatives that are in both the Edwards and Clinton proposals, and emphasizes across-the-board tax cuts over both aid to the hardest-hit families and help for state and local governments. I know that Mr. Obama's supporters hate to hear this, but he really is less progressive than his rivals on matters of domestic policy.
I would add that he also uses right wing frames far more often that the other two, his senior economic advisers are virtualy reactionaries and talk of "hope" doesn't make you a progressive. (Remember Mr. "Morning in America" Reagan if you are inclined to disagree.)

It remains unclear to me that Edwards' supporters would go to Obama if Edwards dropped out, but the bottom line is simpler--there is no reason for Edwards to drop out. He's still in the running, and if he wants to choose which of the other candidates wins if he doesn't, walking into the convention with a block of delegates large enough to do it is the best way.



And Obama isn't Edwards--he is significantly to the right of Edwards and on the fight/compromise spectrum he is actually the most conciliatory of the three candidates. Edwards supporters want a fighter; that isn't Obama.

Edwards is alive and kicking, and a force to be reckoned with. There's no good reason for him to ever drop out of the nomination contest. Time for Obama supporters to tend to their own campaign, not to Edwards.

[Cowpunk]

66. K&R!

[redqueen]

5. K & frickin R!

:bounce:

:loveya:

[asdjrocky]

6. Thanks redqueen!

Every day it's so important that we get the Positive Progressive message out there for John Edwards. He can't do it all alone.

[Triana]

7. YOU BET he has - and I've been with him since the very beginning...

...never had to delibarate over the decision at all. He was my senator and I voted for him. He ran for VP and I voted for him, more so than Kerry. I was SO excited that John Kerry chose Edwards as a running mate. I'll vote for him for President (given the chance) because I KNOW he's the best qualified candidate.

[bpeale]

79. the ONLY reason i voted for Kerry was because of Edwards

i have been an Edwards fan since 2003. he should have been President in 2004. and he's going to be President in 2008.

GO JOHNNY GO!!!

[gateley]

8. I've never been an Edwards supporter --

since the 2004 race, I've just never "liked him". But I'll tell you something, he's looking better and better to me as my respect for Clinton and Obama diminishes.

[asdjrocky]

11. Thank you so much gateley!

That means a lot. I encourage someone as informed, and active as you are to take a real close look at John Edwards.

There are a lot of good, decent, and smart people here that support him, and there's gotta be a reason for that.

Thanks again for your comment, and good luck, sincerely, to whoever you decide to support!

[Yael]

15. Thanks gateley!

:hi:

[asdjrocky]

16. Hey Yael!

Thanks, as always, for checking in.

[Yael]

23. Backatcha Rocky

Can't wait for tomorrow night!! :hi:

[JDPriestly]

56. He is always a gentleman. He stays positive. He just says what he is for.

I will never forget when Tweety really tried to razz and embarrass Edwards one show. Edwards looked at him with a gentle kind of puzzled look like, "I can't believe you sunk that low," and tactfully responded to Tweety's question ignoring that the question was intended to be not so veiled ridicule. Tweety got the message right away: Don't mess with Edwards. It was a great moment. Sorry I don't have a link.

[midnight]

85. I hope more people are seeing these nuances and changing

their minds to vote for Edwards.

[Myrina]

97. Same Here ! n/t

:patriot:

[Rambis]

9. Go John go! (nm)

x:kick:

[Horse with no Name]

10. K&R

:kick:

[Cant trust em]

12. If he doesn't get the nomination...

how about Secretary of Labor? I like Obama because I think that he has the best shot to reach over and snag some swing voters but John Edwards scratches me right where I itch. I hope that he is able to stay in through the convention because he forces everyone to talk about what he's talking about. He has a lot to offer our party and I hope that he won't leave again if he doesn't win.

[Nutmegger]

13. R&K!

Thank you asdjrocky! :hi:

[asdjrocky]

14. Thanks Nutmegger!

We can always count on you! Have you joined the group yet?

[THUNDER HANDS]

17. for some reason he just doesn't connect with people

or, at least, enough people.

I think his style is all wrong. I think he de-emphasizes his lawyer background and tries to conceal just how bright he actually is. I think he needs to be himself more.

And I say that because when I hear him speak, I hear the same things over and over and over again. He's smart enough that he can change up his speeches every now and then. He has them memorized like, well, a lawyer would with his closing argument to a jury. He needs to go beyond that.

He also needs to win a state, any state. But that's not going to happen until he changes something. Because right now he's a guy with a lot of great ideas and nothing to show for it -- like a world's best sailboat with no wind.

[asdjrocky]

18. Thanks for your concern-

er, Magic Rat. I hope you don't mind that the opinion of Krugman, Hayse, and Kline, mean far more to me than your opinion.

Hope you understand.

[THUNDER HANDS]

19. all I'm saying

is that he needs to change his style if he wants to win. I'm not questioning his positions on anything.

I hope you understand the difference.

[asdjrocky]

21. I do understand what you are saying-

For me it has everything to do with substance, and very little to do with style. Now I know, most Americans don't understand this, but I feel if we make enough noise, eventually they'll have no choice but to listen to the substance of his words.

That's just my take.

[JDPriestly]

58. Saying the same things over and over is effective.

9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/1l, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11

That was Bush's 2004 campaign.

It's like hearing and old song. The more you've heard it, the more you can sing along, the better you like it. People sing along with the familiar stories that Edwards tells.

I bet half the voters are still undecided at this point -- if the truth were known. I'm talking to a lot of voters every day. It is amazing to me. Average voters still haven't heard the language we have heard over and over.

[AzDar]

20. He's the best person for the job.

:kick:

[asdjrocky]

22. He's my candidate! n/t

[pleah]

24. It's good to know that there are people still getting the word out. K&R

[Andy823]

25. Good post

Thanks. We need more post like this.

[Andy823]

26. Good post

Thanks. We need more post like this.

[asdjrocky]

27. Thank you Andy!

And thank you again!

[stravu9]

28. You know, LIBERALITY is one of the 7 Cardinal Virtues!

Just as Corportate GREED is one of the 7 deady sins!

"People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their People!"

[asdjrocky]

32. I like the way you think-

And a big welcome to DU, friend!:hi:

[stravu9]

41. Thanks!

I appreciate it

[RuleOfNah]

29. No Naomi Klein comment?

Just wondering. :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4064675&mesg_id=4064675

[asdjrocky]

30. Are you kidding?

Are you trying to hijack my post with Naomi Klein? How the hell would I know if he's read it or not. I have a fine idea, go to johnedwards.com and ask him yourself.

I can tell you I've read both of the Naomi's. Does that make you happy? Now I'll kindly ask you, new friend, not to ask silly questions, that you think mean something in my post, just because no one cared about it in your post.

Now, how about we play nice?

[RuleOfNah]

33. I wasn't trying to hijack.

I was trying to invite Candidate X supporters to comment on an issue that is very important to me personally (and I saw big names like Krugman quoted on more generic terms). You were so friendly and open wthe last time I posted on one of your threads.

Well, I haven't approached any Clinton supporters yet because I am skeptical. I made a timid attempt in an Obama thread, no luck. I got your, um, friendly response (putting Edwards in the lead, of the top three).

[asdjrocky]

35. Sorry if you got me a bit pissy-

It seemed to me, you were asking a leading question. Like if he has not read the book, then he's just another candidate likely to carry on a fascist agenda. I think nothing could be further from the truth. John Edwards has made several statements on civil rights.

Use the google. If you look back, I'm sure you'll see in my reaction, I was doing nothing more than meeting you half way.

[RuleOfNah]

36. I understand, the freepers have been trolling heavily.

Knives out is the default posture around here.

I have lots of issues to consider before voting next month, corporate crime is simply at the top. From what little I know, Edwards has a stronger message than Clinton or Obama in this area. Honestly, I don't expect much from the mainstream candidates on the issue of corporate crime (which is the undercurrent lurking underneath more general economic policy issues, which you probably know, because you've read the books) but hope springs eternal.

As for the 'real liberal' and 'first's of the original post, well, I'm one of those reviled 'fringe' types so my reaction is more 'welcome to the cluetrain' than 'that is something fresh and new'. :P

[JDPriestly]

60. I'm with you RuleOfNah. Corruption is the central issue.

Edwards is a fighter. He will combat corruption tooth and nail.

A little mentioned issue is the need to enforce Occupational Safety and Health laws. The Bush administration has been lax in this area -- to the detriment of ordinary Americans.

I don't think any candidate is talking about this issue. It seems to take a spectacular mine accident to remind people just how important it is. Corruption causes governments to ignore this area. Edwards is detached enough from the interests of employers to fairly administer the laws in this area.

[JDPriestly]

59. Edwards has promised to go after the war profiteers.

Has any other candidate said a word about that?

[RuleOfNah]

62. The war profiteer awareness was most welcome.

I avoid mainstream media campaign coverage. Irregardless, those Edwards messages managed to make it out as far as this fringe, nice job. I hear you on OHSA too. A DoJ under the influence of Edwards would be helpful in this time of great need!

[RufusTFirefly]

61. I (heart) Naomi

Love her book. Etc, etc.

Kucinich and Edwards seem to come closest to understanding Klein's thesis. Obama? Nope. Clinton? No way!

[smokey nj]

31. K&R!!!!

[NastyRiffraff]

34. Excellent!

You're right, Rocky...Edwards has been leading the campaign in many ways, forcing the other front runners to adjust.

But why vote for the followers when you can have the leader? And that's John Edwards!

:kick:

[asdjrocky]

42. Thanks NastyRiffraff-

It's going to feel good to cast my vote for him in Ca.

[senseandsensibility]

37. Go, Edwards

He's finally getting some recognition.

[pamela]

38. K, R & B

Good stuff, Rocky.

[asdjrocky]

49. Thanks pamela! n/t

[muyojoe]

39. JOHN IS SPOT ON!

I wish he would win the nomination. I feel America could be better with him in charge. Funny you should make the charge that he is not being himself, that is what ruined things for Gore. Makes me want to find his SNL clip, and wish the last eight years would go away.

[asdjrocky]

50. Thank you so much.

He can win, with our help. And welcome, by the way, to DU!:hi:

[laureloak]

40. Edward is the true leader. I've always seen it. Why can't

others?

[EVDebs]

94. Most of these political newbies were born on or a bit before 1980

and don't even know what a Reagan-style liberal-dissing 'off the shelf' 'I cannot recall' operation looks like, even when we're going through it all over again. REX84 style subversion and media-manipulation are in overdrive. Confuse, abuse, and obfuscate are the GOP's methodology in service to Lord Sauron, the globalist/corporatist agenda.

God help us all.

[Nite Owl]

43. He's been the real leader

from the beginning and I'll be with him until the end. He deserves our support, he knows that this country should be about the people not the corporation.

[immoderate]

44. I'm for Edwards, but I haven't seen much of him lately...

Maybe it's just as well. The more I see of the others, the more I like Edwards.

--IMM

[RufusTFirefly]

63. JEDNE n/t

[DaLittle Kitty]

75. Blame The Corporatis Media and DONATE TO HIS CAMPAIGN FRIDAY!

$7 MILLION Goal$ which will be matched... if the little folks come through! :kick: it!

[The River]

45. I've Been Watching This Trend

Obama seems to be the first to adopt Johns themes,
then Hillary delivers her version.
You could rightly call them Edwards wannabe's.

It's not over by a long shot as long as John stays in.
As long as we support him, Progressive Democrats will have
a very large voice at the convention.
And then, the Oval Office.

[saltpoint]

46. Great post. Rec City.

[asdjrocky]

54. Thanks for braving the "weather" to come out!

Good to see you Old Crusoe!

[saltpoint]

68. I threw on my deep hip waders and jumped into GD-P just to rec this thread.

There's still a lot of positive energy on this site, including your entry here.

Bravo to you right back.

[Politicub]

47. John rocks the house

I'm backing Hillary in the primary, but it would be very easy for me to switch my support to Johns should he be our party's nominee. I'm looking forward to hearing him speak in Atlanta this weekend!

:bounce:

[Canuckistanian]

48. Accept no substitutes

Go for the REAL thing.

[JohnLocke]

51. Proud to K&R this. Go Edwards!

[asdjrocky]

52. Thank you John!

So good to see you!

[JohnLocke]

53. Excellent to see you as well!

:) :yourock:

[McCamy Taylor]

57. So true. He is the visionary. The moral voice for the party.

Edwards 2008!

[bjobotts]

64. He got everything from Kucinich..but he is however the contender.

And then not as good. kucinich is much better on all the issues and John helped Kucinich from being completely ignored...John is the contender who should follow in Kucinich's tracks all the way for the progressives.

[Chasing Dreams]

65. Thank you for this excellent post

:kick:

[asdjrocky]

67. Thanks Chasing Dreams!

And if I haven't all ready, a big welcome to DU! :hi:

[MissDeeds]

69. K&R #81

Great read. Thanks for bringing us the good news, asdjrocky! :kick:

[eridani]

70. Actually not. It has been Kucinich who has been pushing that agenda all along

Edwards learned something about timid halfway measures in 2004 and is now catching up. Hey, I like it, but credit where credit is due, pleaase.

[NastyDiaper]

80. Richardson too.

Their agenda has been moving left. DK was there first and furthest. No doubt.

What about Dodd on Constitutional issues?

I really like Krugman. I can tell he does not like Obama. And probably for valid reasons.

What I wonder about Edwards is, is he originating his positions? Or is the candidate listening to us (DU, lefty blogosphere)? Maybe it does not matter.

Anyway w/ Richardson and Dodd out and Gore never in. My FL choice will probably be DK unless it's close. In which case i'll likely be choosing betwixt Edwards or Obama.

[eridani]

101. Dodd for Senate Majority leader for sure.

If Edwards is pandering, I really do like it that he is pandering to me for a change. Crucial to all candidates moving in a more progressive direction is the continued presence of Kucinich in the presidential contest.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

71. He is the only candidate to whom I've contributed. The ignoring of him and the outright attacks on

him by the corporomedia are keeping my attention.



MKJ

[susu369]

72. "including aid to unemployed workers"

John, please halt the ridiculous income tax that citizens have to pay on unemployment benefits. This unfair tax was started during the Reagan years (this is what I have been told - no facts to back me). Unemployment compensation is an insurance and should not be subject to IRS taxation.

End of rant......

[chelaque liberal]

74. I just signed up to be a local volunteer in GA.

Rally with John Edwards in Atlanta

Jan 19, 2008
2:30 p.m. ET
IBEW Local Union 613
501 Pulliam Street
Atlanta, GA 30312

http://www.johnedwards.com/events/rsvp/20080119-atlanta

[redqueen]

89. Thank you!

:yourock:

[Ninga]

76. This crystalizes the importance of his contribution and why we need him in the WH.

As ever, rocky.....:hi: and you :yourock:



As for John Edwards :woohoo:

[flasoapbox]

77. I wonder...

...how many CEO's and billionaires would flee the country or kill
themselves if Edwards won the Presidency? A lot, I hope.

[Phred42]

78. Hear are 30+ more

Thanks for the great post asdjrocky

Hear are 30+ more

http://www.johnedwards.com/news/press-releases/20080102-economists/

More Than 30 Leading Economists Endorse John Edwards For President


Hurrah! These are the smartest guys.

Economists pick Edwards because he will fight for sustained growth, full employment and an end to poverty

Chapel Hill, North Carolina – Today, the John Edwards for President campaign announced that more than 30 leading U.S. economists have endorsed John Edwards for president. "Economists for John Edwards" includes such notable scholars as James K. Galbraith from the University of Texas at Austin; Deirdre McCloskey from the University of Illinois at Chicago; Thomas Palley, founder of the Economics for Democratic & Open Societies Project; Clyde Prestowitz, president of the Economic Strategies Institute; Harley Shaiken from the University of California, Berkeley; and Edward Wolff from New York University.

<snip>

Economists for Edwards

Note that institutional affiliations are for identification purposes only.

Gar Alperovitz
Lionel R. Bauman Professor of Political Economy
University of Maryland-College Park

Lourdes Beneria
Professor of City and Regional Planning
Cornell University

Michael A. Bernstein
Provost
Tulane University

Martha Campbell
Associate Professor, Economics
SUNY Potsdam

Manuel Castells
Chair Professor of Communication Technology and Society
University of Southern California, and
Distinguished Visiting Professor of Science and Technology
MIT

Jane D'Arista
Former staff economist
U.S. House of Representatives

William Darity, Jr.
Arts & Sciences Professor of Public Policy Studies
Professor of African and Africa-American Studies and Economics
Duke University

Paul Davidson
Editor, Journal of Post Keynesian Economics
Bernard Schwartz Center for Economic Policy Analysis
The New School University

Gerald Epstein
Professor of Economics
University of Massachusetts, Amherst

Susan F. Feiner
Director of Women's Studies
Professor of Economics
University of Southern Maine

James K. Galbraith
Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr. Chair in Government/Business Relations
LBJ School of Public Affairs
The University of Texas at Austin, and
Senior Scholar, Levy Economics Institute

Richard Garrett
Associate Professor of Economics
Division of Accounting and Business Management
Marymount Manhattan College

Mary King
Professor of Economics
Portland State University

Jan Kregel
Visiting Distinguished Research Professor of Economics
The University of Missouri - Kansas City

Peter Hans Matthews
Department of Economics
Middlebury College
Middlebury, Vermont 05753

Deirdre McCloskey
Professor of Economics
University of Illinois at Chicago

Richard McIntyre
Honors Program Director and Professor of Economics
University of Rhode Island.

Thomas Michl
Professor of Economics
Colgate University

David Miller
Assistant Professor of Economics
University of California, San Diego (UCSD)

John Miller
Professor of Economics
Wheaton College

Tracy Mott
Professor of Economics
University of Colorado at Boulder

Thomas Palley
Founder
Economics for Democratic & Open Societies Project

Dimitri Papadimitriou
President
Levy Economics Institute
Bard College

Chip Poirot
Associate Professor of Economics
Department of Social Sciences
Shawnee State University

Robert Pollin
Professor of Economics and Director,
Political Economy Research Institute (PERI)
University of Massachusetts-Amherst

Robert Prasch
Associate Professor of Economics
Middlebury College

Clyde Prestowitz
President
Economic Strategies Institute

Bruce Roberts
Professor of Economics
University of Southern Maine

J. Barkley Rosser
Professor of Economics
James Madison University

Harley Shaiken
Class of 1930 Professor
Graduate School of Education and Department of Geography
University of California, Berkeley

Nina Shapiro
Professor and Chair
Department of Economics and Finance,
Saint Peter's College

Edward Wolff
Professor of Economics
New York University

Martin Wolfson
Professor of Economics and Policy Studies
University of Notre Dame

L. Randall Wray
Research Director
Center for Full Employment and Price Stability
Department of Economics
University of Missouri-Kansas City, and
Senior Scholar, Levy Economics Institute

[redqueen]

91. More Than 30 Leading Economists Endorse John Edwards

Thanks for posting that. :)

[EVDebs]

95. Agreed ! The neocon Milton Friedman agenda, as Naomi Klein shows us, is toast !

BTW, what was Obama getting from Bloomberg ?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-11-30-obama-nyc_N.htm

ADVISE ? Hmmm. Now is the time to reconsider the source of Obama's economic policies, eh ?

[redqueen]

96. Who needs to even know the source?

Tax cuts? A couple / few hundred each?

:wtf:

I don't know HOW the hell that's sellin!

[disndat]

81. Krugman wrote

in his NYT column that Edwards has the soundest economic plan and Obama has the weakest, mostly his advocating tax cuts for the middle class to stimulate the economy. A big endorsement for Edwards from a heavy weight economist.

[peacetalksforall]

82. Yes, while Clinton and Obama spar, Edwards leads - except in the polls which

we can never really rely on.

I told myself I couldn't vote for anyone who voted for the war and the Patriot Act.

My choices are narrowing.

The tidbit of logic that is going through my head ....

The war is about children.

The loss is to the children in this country and Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon (this time around).

The loss is of the children and against the children - to lose the infrastructure, to lose the schooling, to lose the economy, to lose a parent, to have a parent disappear with reason to believe they are or to know they are in prison and not know that they are alive, to learn that prisoners are tortured, to know that no one can directly help them, to be exiled, to lose the luxury of even hot water, to have to help a brother who had a limbb blown off, and in this country to have an administration that takes away the benefits of a soldier-parent, to not get to go to college because the funding was yanked away, to be a Mexican or Moslem child and learn that people hate you and were guided to hate you, to hear that we are in deep debt as a country, On and on ....

Edwards is different from Clinton and Obama, in part, because of corporate contributions.

This was and is a corporation war.

I don't have Al Gore or Feingold and possibly not Kucinich.

Edwards has my hope, for now.

[Greylyn58]

84. As usual, another great post!

Love it.

[asdjrocky]

88. Woof!

C'mon, throw the stick again! Throw the stick, just throw the stick!!!!!

[Greylyn58]

100. Hehehehehe!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Sheridan will definitely chase a stick. He lives for that.







PS: This is Sheridan's intelligent look. He is after all an Edwards supporter.

[LSK]

86. JOHN EDWARDS IS DEFINING THE DEBATE

K&R

[midnight]

87. My point too!!!! That is why I'm voting for this Intelligent man

who has a brilliant plan and has the fight to bring it to Washington. Go John!!!!

[dpbrown]

90. Glad to make it 100 recs

Nice work, John!

[asdjrocky]

93. And glad to say thank you!

[shireen]

98. none of the candidates excite me but if I had to vote today, i'd go with Edwards

My only contribution to any candidate so far has been to Edwards. I'll continue to cautiously support him. My issue is trust. I don't trust any of the candidates. But in terms of message, Edwards is definitely superior.

[ooglymoogly]

99. So much for corporate medias new meme that "Edwards supporters

are less educated" propaganda.