THE LAST STRAW! Why I won't vote for Hillary in the General Election

[Infinite Hope]

I had just gotten through watching Huckabee on CNN and at that very moment, he erased my *remote* consideration of him if our nominee were Clinton (Yes, he's the one Rep. I had considered voting for IF the one Democrat I'd vote against, Hillary, were our nominee). Well, anyway, that won't happen. Then a story of MORE racial remarks and lies from Hillary followed. She claimed Obama brought race into the race despite his campaign's lack of comment on the matter and despite it being her own campaign that began the issue. The race issue was being fought between Hillaryland and the media. Her comments and lies make it clear she'd throw anyone under the bus for her own personal gain. I won't stand for that. We will have had 8 years of that by the time the next president takes office. The link below by another poster puts well some of the reasons I will not vote for Hillary and will vote 3rd party (something I've historically criticized) against Hillary if she's the nominee.

An additional reason is the growing sense that she'd be weaker than Obama or even her husband among blacks because of recent comments. Further, she's weaker among independents not to mention not being a uniting force even among Democrats. I think she's really hurt her ability to compete in the general election and has now rendered herself unelectable.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4051336

[goldcanyonaz]

1. And, you've been such a strong supporter of Clinton in the past....

:rofl:

Posts like these are so disingenuous, and not fooling anyone.

[Infinite Hope]

3. Before spring 2007, I liked her. n/t

[MADem]

35. Yeah, but then that uppity woman had to go and run for President!

:rofl:

I'm sure the Clinton campaign is crying into their pillow at your "sudden" decision!

:rofl:

You post is a living illustration of the term "ham handed."

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

40. MADem,

:spray:

MKJ

[Infinite Hope]

57. They should be upset...not because of my singular decision, but my sentiment is shared by many.

And when writing in anger and free-flow, the writing isn't going to be an edited essay.

[indimuse]

59. you...ah...liked her...ah..

:yoiks::yoiks::yoiks::yoiks::yoiks::yoiks:it just get dumber and dumber round here.

[Evergreen Emerald]

2. Huckabee thinks women should submit to their man

He does not believe in evolution. Wha?

[sufrommich]

4. Okie Dokie, thanks for sharing. nt

[Bullet1987]

5. I agree Infinite...and we're not the only ones either

There are MANY people who she's going to alienate because of this...who won't be voting for her if the time comes. I don't give two shits if a Rethug wins...it'll be poetic justice on my end.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

14. " I don't give two shits if a Rethug wins...it'll be poetic justice on my end."

Your statement deserves it's own subject line.

MKJ

[sufrommich]

15. "I don't give two shits if a Rethug wins...it'll be poetic justice "

Yeesh.

[MonkeyFunk]

16. I have to run out to the party store

I'm getting low on goody bags.

[sufrommich]

17. lol. Need any help stuffing those party bags?

[goldcanyonaz]

21. Don't forget the kool-aid.

[cali]

20. yikesaroony

talk about jumping the ol' shark. what a statement to see on a dem board.

[LostinVA]

19. Then why are you on Democratic Underground???

[durrrty libby]

27. "don't give two shits if a Rethug wins.." That s just beautiful

because it IS all about you.:crazy:

[tavalon]

41. What the fuck?

[TwilightZone]

55. Well, that certainly explains a lot.

I don't give two shits if a Rethug wins...it'll be poetic justice on my end.

[anniebelle]

6. I guess the right-wing talking points got ya!

Just tell us the selling points of your candidate. I can follow the FACTS on my own.

[LostinVA]

7. Wait -- so you were supporting Huckabee over Clinton?

:rofl:

I think you made a right turn somewhere.

[durrrty libby]

8. Oh my ...What would Jesus say about YOUR distortions and lies??

[MonkeyFunk]

9. Before you leave

don't forget to take a goody bag!

Today's features Dr. Scholl's inserts, so you can stamp your feet longer and louder.

[Terry_M]

22. In every thread of this type...

There's always someone posting leaving threads. You do realize that whether your candidate wins or loses the general election, you still need people actively supporting and voting for the democratic congress critters and senators?

[MonkeyFunk]

24. Are you going to vote Republican

because a stranger is handing out goody bags on DU?

[Terry_M]

34. No..

It's the whole before you leave thing... Point being that you don't want people to leave even if they're going to vote independent... They could still vote for one of our many useless senators or congress critters.

[MonkeyFunk]

37. I'm not going to beg anybody to stay

if they're too dumb to look at the last 7 years and realize what a lie "Bush = Gore" is, then fuck 'em. I can't make up for their parents and teachers. They're just too ignorant to bother with.

[NoPasaran]

10. Infinite Concern

There should really be a seperate forum for these "I'll never vote for Hillary" threads. Maybe FR has some spare bandwidth.

[libbygurl]

23. LOL. And to even consider Huckabee at all...! nt

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

11. So you're all for the Huckster, huh?

]

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/11/13/huckabee/">A few inconvenient truths about the ex Guv

Might want to read one of the letters at the end describing how he financially benefited from the Jonesboro school shootings.

See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.

MKJ

[anniebelle]

30. Is this the gang banned from the "all-you-can-eat bar"?

[Highway61]

49. Sweet Jesus

:rofl: Happens everytime I see that picture... and Gomer referring to his "trophy" wife :rofl:
This is the best they can come up with?????????????

[indimuse]

60. no THAT scares the shit otta me...be right back.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:thanks I needed That!

[wyldwolf]

12. I wish I had a dime for every thread like this about John Kerry in 2004

[johncoby2]

13. GREAT! Thats what the nader folks did. See how well that worked out?

They voted their conscience.

They should have 3800+ dead soldiers on their conscience for not using their brain instead.

[Terry_M]

25. So should the primary voters

That despite having other choices keep giving you the most establishment oriented candidates over and over knowing that establishment candidates won't get that extra 2-3% from Nader.

[libbygurl]

18. Yep, the Clintons are such bigots, aren't they? So bigoted that....

...Bill C has been called 'the first black president' by blacks themselves.

Again, take the comments in the context in which they were said.

Everything becomes inflammatory because it makes good copy and gets readers/viewers.

[enough already]

31. I've personally only ever heard HIM say that

The whole idea of him being the "first black president" is racist in and of itself.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

33. I heard D.L. Hugley, Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock make that reference in their acts.

MKJ

[libbygurl]

39. Not just him. The Congressional Black Caucus did...

See here:

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200110/NAT20011001e.html

[Cameron27]

42. Actually I believe it was Toni Morrison

who called him that, I'll have fact check, but that's what I remember.

[Cameron27]

45. Here you go,

Feb 20, 2002 | "In her now-famous defense of a scandal-plagued Bill Clinton, Nobel prizewinner Toni Morrison, went so far as to call him "our first black president. Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children's lifetime." "Clinton," Morrison wrote in the 1998 New Yorker essay, "displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald's-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas."

http://dir.salon.com/story/books/int/2002/02/20/clinton/index.html

You might want to hold off on claiming "racist" until you get the facts.

[robbedvoter]

26. You considered Huckabee? After that, you pretty much lost me. Stopped reading

Will we hear now from every fundie why they won't vote for any on our candidates, or you are some spokesman?

[Ken Burch]

28. Even I would vote HRC in the fall.

If I had to grit my teeth to do it, I would.

Don't help the GOP this way.

[robbedvoter]

29. BREAKING NEWS: Fundies don't like Hillary! DUH....Huckabee?

[pingzing58]

32. Do let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Ms. Hope(less)!

[9119495]

36. So sorry to hear of your support for more Scalias and Thomas'

As an Obama supporter, I hope my guy wins but I will not only vote for the nominee, I will volunteer my time and contribute my money. Changing the Supreme Court is worth it.

[quickesst]

38. Let us be the first.....

to extend my appreciation for effectively voting Repubican by with-holding your vote from the Democratic Party if she is the nominee. It is appreciated. Thank you.

John, Rudy, Mitt, and Mike.

[Sparkly]

43. She didn't "bring race into the race," and neither did Obama.

It's the media, the supporters, the blogs, etc. that have brought race into the race.

Obama referenced MLK; Clinton countered, referencing MLK; and OTHERS went nuts about it. Obama says he didn't say anything about it, although it seems some in his campaign did send a memo around.

A supporter of Clinton used the phrase "shuck and jive" while not even discussing Obama, and OTHERS went nuts about it. I'm not sure whether the Obama campaign said anything.

Was there another incident? I'm losing track! :crazy:

[MonkeyFunk]

44. absolutely correct

these fake outrages of the day are really getting silly.

[Adelante]

46. I prefer Obama be president over Clinton

But not voting for Clinton in the GE, if she becomes the nominee, is a chump's game.

[sellitman]

47. You joined the wrong group.

I think you meant to join freepers.

Here is the link for you: www.freerepublic.com

Don't let the door hit you in the way out.

[Czolgosz]

48. The difference between Hillary and Obama is the difference between vanilla and French vanilla --

you have to have a pretty good pallet to detect any difference at all and, if you can identify any difference, it isn't big enough to get excited over.

Vote for Kucinich or Edwards -- at least they are offering a platform we should all get behind.

[CyberPieHole]

50. I won't support Obama if he gets the nod in the GE.

I guess what's good for the goose...etc.

[libbygurl]

53. Nice pic of the next president of the USA! ;) nt

[CyberPieHole]

54. Thanks libbygurl...

and a big hello to you.:hi:

[libbygurl]

56. Thanks, and here's a big hello right back! G'night then. nt

[pingzing58]

51. Sorry after all the MSM and Obama's lies about Hillary's positions I don't want another decptive

Bush government. So, today I have decided to vote for Hillary in the primaries and in the gen election.

[oasis]

52. Adios.

:hi:

[David Zephyr]

58. Don't worry, Infinite Hope. This week finished her with the American people.

She's proved that the divisive imgage she was trying to overcome was the real one all along.

There's no way in hell that Obama and Edwards delegates will vote for her in Denver.

The public is right: she is too divisive to be the President of all Americans.

[Infinite Hope]

61. I agree. I'm not sure if this week has been great for Obama, but it could lead to Edwards getting

another look by some. Though Obama was helped among blacks and possibly some Edwards supporters like myself who now resent Hillary and also saw how Obama handled the issue with poise.

[laureloak]

62. I'm anti status quo. No Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton dynasty.

Besides, she's a phoney and won't to a damn thing to help the average American.