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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:06 PM Original message |
Why is Sen. Edwards to blame for Clark's downfall? |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hugh Shelton advises Edwards |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. But I see Kerry calling him a 'Republican' was OK, huh? |
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EXE619K (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Kerry called Clark a "Republican"? |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. A little double standard, isn't there. |
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EXE619K (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. No, seriously though.... |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. No. Like most good one-liners of Dean's... |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. It was Shaheen - guess she stole it from Dean. n/t |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Not only that, Shelton has praised Kerry in public, and has never said |
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atre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Kerry's response to this? And Kerry's attack on the Michael Moore issue??? |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm not part of a certain segment |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. See BOSSHOG's statement |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. And bombtrack's is very good as well - down below here. |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Oh.. and Jackhammer Jesus' post has very good points as well. n/t |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. question should be, Why is the media pumping up Edwards? |
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jenk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. yes, it's the media, barry switzer, and Oj Simpson, they're to blame!!! |
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azmesa207 (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Yes it the media |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
82. Hi azmesa207!! |
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funky_bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
76. At least Clark had the dignity to get out when the voters rejected him |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's so obvious Kerry was. Before he came back in Iowa, |
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Jackhammer Jesus (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. Not that I've seen. |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I've actually seen an incredible amount of vitriol |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. yeah, I don't know how you couldn't see it. There are a number of them |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Yes, the scorched-earth crowd. |
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Jackhammer Jesus (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Like I said, I tend to stay out of GD04. |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Good point. |
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atre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
68. You're absolutely right... |
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funky_bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
78. Unlike you, dear (and handsome) poster |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
17. He's not. |
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Protagoras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
18. None of the other candidates were to Blame |
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kher-heb (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
20. it was Clark's fault |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
21. I don't blame edwards for Clark's "downfall" |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
23. he's not |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. I would just like to point out that I really appreciate everyone who helps |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. touchee |
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DancingBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
27. False premise |
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atre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. I must say, |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
29. The Clark/Edwards "wars" were nothing |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. Dean/Clark wars and Dean/Kerry wars |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
63. Great post. |
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Turkw (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. His successes were greater than any one could reasonably hope for, but |
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FreeSpeechCrusader (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
31. I place no blame on Edwards |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:00 AM Response to Reply #31 |
83. Hi FreeSpeechCrusader!! |
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jmaier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
32. Edwards has nothing to do with Clark's decision |
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dae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
33. I honestly haven't seen it. Gen. Clark got in late, should not have |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
34. It was John Kerry's fault |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. You're right-- only Edwards did things to Clark. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. I didn't say that at all - lol |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Well, you SORTA did |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
35. Clark took responsibility for his shortcomings. |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. You are absolutely right about Clark taking responsibility. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
37. The Anger Is Not Directly At Edwards But At The Media |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. If it's 'directed at the media'.... |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
91. Edwards is NOT the public whipping boy at DU |
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Rooktoven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
72. But it _was_ a virtual dead heat. --nt |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
40. Who cares |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. We'll see. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. That's why I love you, Jim4 |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Back at ya |
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dae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'll have to modify part of my original statement on this thread. After |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I knew there were, dae. |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
51. Having the gall to resist his entitled ascension |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Your post said it all about Clark's character. |
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FreeSpeechCrusader (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
88. You know what I think says it all about Clark's character.... |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:59 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Correction: "unqualified one term senator" |
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DemCam (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 07:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Fiction, my friend... |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Absolute paranoid tinhat BS. n/t |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. If anything appears to assert entitlement-it is the sentiment in your post |
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Rooktoven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
75. Clark was the media darling when he jumped in-- |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #75 |
89. Edwards definitely |
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Rooktoven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
73. Absolutely dead--on. |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #51 |
93. Bzzzt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
53. Your Inference Is Based On Faulty Logic. And Don't Give Edwards |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. You know very well that would be a rules violation. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 07:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. It's Absurd As Saying All People Who Dislike Edwards Are Clark Supporters |
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atre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. I don't know about the general assertion, but in your case it is true |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
54. I don't blame Edwards or |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
61. It was |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Misconception in the greatest sense, IMHO. n/t |
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wellstone dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
66. I don't get it |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
67. Blame?? |
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Nashyra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Kerry is the most logical for most Clark supporters |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I think Kerry and Edwards BOTH |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #69 |
84. "rude just after TN and VA" |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
70. Most of us don't blame Edwards |
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Rooktoven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:30 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Clark "beating him in NH" |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. where to start? |
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Rooktoven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. You sound annoyed that Clark wasn't catapulted ahead |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I simply responded to your innacurate post |
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FreeSpeechCrusader (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:53 AM Response to Reply #80 |
90. Yeah and that makes me lose more respect for Howard Dean |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:34 AM Response to Reply #77 |
87. So how long is |
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oxymoron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
74. self deleted |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
85. It's not Edwards. It's the people who voted for him lol |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I agree about the Dean support. |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
94. Why are Edwards' supporters so eager to annoy Clark supporters |
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